Genesis G70 Maintenance

[Slides]

You buy a new car every time you need an oil change?

No, I let the dealership or a local shop deal with it. New cars so that I don't have to deal with expensive repairs that take a long time on a used car.

 

[Mark_888]

No, I let the dealership or a local shop deal with it. New cars so that I don't have to deal with expensive repairs that take a long time on a used car.

Since I graduated college, I have only bought new cars, and paid cash for them. There is something called a warranty (maybe you have heard of it?), and for Hyundai and Genesis there is an extended powertrain warranty of 10 years or 100K miles.

Changing the oil is not the same as dealing with a repair, costly or otherwise. Even a cave man can do an oil change. But I can completely understand not wanting to mess with oil changes if one has to get under the car, but as I said that is not always required.

Strangely enough there is a correlation with doing oil changes oneself (and doing it right), versus having a dealer do it, and how many problems or repairs one will have in the long term. For one thing, dealers almost never use the same quality of oil I use, and they often botch the job (as a Hyundai dealer botched it the one time I let them do it).

In the end, changing ones oil is a Zen thing. It's a refreshing change from the normal business life of pure intellectual activities (without any manual labor). It's also a satisfaction of knowing that a job is done right, and the relationship between Quality and The Good (The Metaphysics of Quality). See Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
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[Toddasaurus]

In the end, changing ones oil is a Zen thing. It's a refreshing change from the normal business life of pure intellectual activities (without any manual labor). It's also a satisfaction of knowing that a job is done right, and the relationship between Quality and The Good (The Metaphysics of Quality). See Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
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This.

 

[devellis]

In the end, changing ones oil is a Zen thing. It's a refreshing change from the normal business life of pure intellectual activities (without any manual labor).

Yeah, I basically agree. That's certainly why I used to do my own oil changes. Good to get your hands dirty sometimes. Plus, there was the whole idea of just mastering the task. I used to do tune-ups too, back when cars needed them and all that was involved was new plugs, points, and condensor and adjusting the timing. But as life progresses, there are lots of other relaxing but challenging activities (playing guitar, for example, or doing set-ups on my instruments) that I prefer to doing oil changes or tune-ups. And if something comes up in the middle of my playing guitar, I can still hop in my car and drive off if necessary. Not so much if the car is sitting there on jack stands, with its oil filter off, drain plug out, and a pan under it collecting oil. And I've found a service shop that I trust to do the job at least as quickly and far more efficiently than I ever could. So, no more doing oil changes for me.

 

[Mark_888]

Not so much if the car is sitting there on jack stands, with its oil filter off, drain plug out, and a pan under it collecting oil. And I've found a service shop that I trust to do the job at least as quickly and far more efficiently than I ever could. So, no more doing oil changes for me.

I don't have to jack up my Genesis V6, nor do I get underneath car. The oil filter is on top of the engine bay on my 1G Genesis, near the firewall. Even on later models of the Genesis V6, the oil filter is at bottom of engine, but can be changed by reaching down from the top between the radiator and bumper. But that doesn't work on the V8.

Then I use an oil extractor to pump the oil out via the dipstick (the same way MB and BMW dealers do it). It hooks up to my small air compressor and sucks the oil out (more oil than I get out with removing the drain plug).
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7300-PneumatiVac-Air-Operated-Evacuator/dp/B000JFN9WW

It's good to have a reputable and competent mechanic to work on your car. I have found that the temptation for shops to use counterfeit oil (any oil other than what you think you are getting) is overwhelming.

One time I paid extra for Mobil 1 at a shop, and watched the mechanic pour in the 5 quarts of Mobil 1, one quart at a time. But the caps came off the Mobil 1 quart containers a little too easy and I am pretty sure he filled some empty Mobil 1 quart containers with some other kind of oil. I have a dozen other stories I won't repeat here.

 

[EdP]

And I've found a service shop that I trust to do the job at least as quickly and far more efficiently than I ever could. So, no more doing oil changes for me.

Pretty much the same for me. I did two changes on my '91 Regal. Only reason I did two was that I bought two filters and I wanted to use it. It was a real PITA to get to the filter. I found it easier to reach in my pocket for a $20 bill.

Never had a problem with the dealer and before that, a shop where I could watch while the owner was doing the work.

 

[Slides]

Since I graduated college, I have only bought new cars, and paid cash for them. There is something called a warranty (maybe you have heard of it?), and for Hyundai and Genesis there is an extended powertrain warranty of 10 years or 100K miles.

Changing the oil is not the same as dealing with a repair, costly or otherwise. Even a cave man can do an oil change. But I can completely understand not wanting to mess with oil changes if one has to get under the car, but as I said that is not always required.

Strangely enough there is a correlation with doing oil changes oneself (and doing it right), versus having a dealer do it, and how many problems or repairs one will have in the long term. For one thing, dealers almost never use the same quality of oil I use, and they often botch the job (as a Hyundai dealer botched it the one time I let them do it).

In the end, changing ones oil is a Zen thing. It's a refreshing change from the normal business life of pure intellectual activities (without any manual labor). It's also a satisfaction of knowing that a job is done right, and the relationship between Quality and The Good (The Metaphysics of Quality). See Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance Summary from LitCharts | The creators of SparkNotes

What does having a warranty have to do with doing maintenance on your car? Plus warranties run out eventually, even the generous ones that Hyundai offers.

I appreciate that some people are handy with things like changing oil etc. I do get the appeal of it as when I was younger I used to tinker with electronics, build computers etc. As I've gotten older, I value my time in other things much more.

Plus, I was never into working on mechanical things where you can get dirty or even injure yourself if you don't know what you're doing. It can be hard exhausting work and just not my jam.

I know dealers botch things up and it's certainly a risk. At minimum I check what oil they will be using and if it's the right one.

 

[Slides]

Yeah, I basically agree. That's certainly why I used to do my own oil changes. Good to get your hands dirty sometimes. Plus, there was the whole idea of just mastering the task. I used to do tune-ups too, back when cars needed them and all that was involved was new plugs, points, and condensor and adjusting the timing. But as life progresses, there are lots of other relaxing but challenging activities (playing guitar, for example, or doing set-ups on my instruments) that I prefer to doing oil changes or tune-ups. And if something comes up in the middle of my playing guitar, I can still hop in my car and drive off if necessary. Not so much if the car is sitting there on jack stands, with its oil filter off, drain plug out, and a pan under it collecting oil. And I've found a service shop that I trust to do the job at least as quickly and far more efficiently than I ever could. So, no more doing oil changes for me.

I used to LOVE building my own computers and would refuse to buy a pre-built one. Now in my 30s I have other responsibilities and time is a finite commodity that I have to fight to regain. I buy Alienware or other pre-built computers now.

 

[Mark_888]

What does having a warranty have to do with doing maintenance on your car? Plus warranties run out eventually, even the generous ones that Hyundai offers.

I was responding to the comment in a previous post as follows (which I should have quoted, but didn't):

No, I let the dealership or a local shop deal with it. New cars so that I don't have to deal with expensive repairs that take a long time on a used car.