Genesis Motors Intelligent High Beams / Adaptive Headlights / Matrix Headlights Discussion

[JBattan]

I did software coding for my 2021 GLS63 to get matrix headlights enabled and it's amazing. Too bad we're so far behind in the US.

 

[deilenberger]

I believe there is a setting to dim headlights for oncoming traffic on my '23 GV60P. I turned it off.
Edit: This is not to be confused with the auto high-beam feature you (insert frustration) have to manually turn on ever start cycle.

Do you know where in the myriad of menus we might find that setting? (For those of us with GV70's that might provide a clue where to look..)

I will just comment, I had my big Porsche in for service, Porsche had it for 10 days and gave me a new 2024 Cayenne as a loaner. Porsche has had advanced dynamic lighting in Europe for a number of years, they were just allowed to turn it on in the US with the 2024 models. It was pretty amazing - excellent lighting. When following someone, it would carve out a dark region starting about at their back bumper, so the light didn't blind them, but then it would light up the road further on either side of the vehicle ahead.

Oncoming traffic on a secondary road, again - the beam would go to about their front bumper, and as they got closer just that section of the beam would get shorter. Turning into roads/curves - the light steers with the car (older Porsches do have cornering lights - like my 2011 - a separate light that projects to the side when turning at slower speeds like into streets - also works great and I miss that on the Genny..)

One could hope that it can be turned on for the 2024 Genesis models, but it may require different lights. It's still an option on Porsches since according to the dealer, each headlight has over 1,000 LEDs in it, and a computer smart enough and fast enough to control each one, plus the driver circuits to make that possible. They said the lights are several thousand dollars each to replace. From memory, I seem to recall the option when you put together a "build" as being around $3,000 (but every option on a Cayenne is $3,000 -- so that doesn't mean a lot..)

 

[skiingj]

Do you know where in the myriad of menus we might find that setting? (For those of us with GV70's that might provide a clue where to look..)

>Menu>Setup>Vehicle>Lights>High Beam Assist

 

[Looney100]

ADB headlights are NOT available in the US yet. While they were technically allowed a few years ago, the regulations are more stringent than those in the EU - with manufacturers claiming they are unnecessarily difficult. As it stands now, the setup used for the EU would not be acceptable in the US.

 

[PMCErnie]

>Menu>Setup>Vehicle>Lights>High Beam Assist

This is HIGH BEAM ASSIST. It is not adaptive or matrix headlights.

 

[deilenberger]

Performance leap in light technology

The new high-resolution Porsche LED main headlights with HD matrix beam offer a high-resolution light distribution up to twice as bright than previous systems.

newsroom.porsche.com

Porsche has developed the light technology of the next generation with its new high-resolution HD matrix technology. The core element of the innovation created in collaboration with partners is a chip that combines over 16,000 individually controllable micro-LEDs onto the surface area the size of a thumbnail. Of these LED chips, two are utilised for each headlight – four per vehicle. The headlights with HD matrix technology therefore offer a high-resolution light distribution up to twice as bright on a surface four times larger than previous top-notch systems.

The driver benefits from the highly flexible light that the new development makes possible thanks to extremely homogeneous illumination. In addition, there are innovative functions such as lane illumination, construction and narrow-lane light and adaptive motorway high-beam lights. The high-performance high beam turns night into day at a distance of up to 600 metres. A new non-dazzling high beam function is used for oncoming vehicles: large areas to the right and left of the anti-dazzling gap become significantly brighter.

Fairly amazing.. 2 chips, each having 16,000 individually controllable micro-LEDs.. that's umm.. 32,000 LEDs per headlight.

From the Porsche configurator:

don't know how up to date that is.. and have no idea what the animation they're referring to is.. I've never seen it and I had a 2024 Cayenne for 10 days..

 

[kqian111]

Here's a related article for the Polestar 2 where hackers are able to enable it via software. But the mfr basically said there's no way to officially support adaptive headlights in the US with current hardware bc of different regulations. Really sucks why US has to come up with its own standards for the sake of being different when the EU already has well established and proven framework.

Hack Your Way To The Superior Euro Headlights The Government Doesn't Want You To Have

Just because the Feds don't want you to have potentially life-saving headlight tech doesn't mean you shouldn't

jalopnik.com

 

[deilenberger]

Really sucks why US has to come up with its own standards for the sake of being different when the EU already has well established and proven framework.

This has been the case as long as I've been driving. When I got my license umm.. 60 years ago - the US required sealed-beam headlights. Originally the 8" ones. They then allowed for two smaller sealed beam headlights about 4.5", and eventually rectangular ones (2 or 4).

Meanwhile, those of us in "the know" were importing Cibie and Hella headlights from Europe, which had a far superior beam pattern and far superior reach, but weren't sealed beams, so when we went to "Inspection" every year (where they inspected and tested the car/brakes/steering/suspension/lights/windows) we had to swap them out.

And if you were very cool, you also added "driving lights" which were a narrow beam light mounted to the bumper that could be switched on with the high-beam on the headlights. For inspection, since driving lights weren't permitted, but "fog lights" were - we swapped the connection over to only come on with the low beams. My driving light favorites were a Hella 5" one and a CIBIE 6" one. Both were very good. Today there are no bumpers to mount them to.. and there are very few available that are optically correct and form a decent beam, most are just a mass of LEDs in square boxes designed for the front of pickup trucks to blind and annoy any oncoming traffic (what is it with those guys? Tiny weenie?)

Classic Jag and Ferrari headlights were molded into the body with glass covers shaped to the body, but due to US regs eventually these had to be changed to the ugly headlights seen on the '70s versions of the cars. Mercedes, Porsche, and BMW all had great headlights in Europe, and sealed beams here.

FWIW - the vast majority of sealed beams were made by GE, some by Sylvania. The rationale behind them was before that - "unsealed" beam headlights had a bulb in a reflector with a glass over it.. and moisture would get inside causing the reflector to rust and the glass to fog up. The sealed beam prevented this by it being a large envelope, sealed with a vacuum inside. So for a decade or so, they were an actual improvement over the existing lighting, but then other lighting passed them by and they never changed.

Maybe someday when the manufacturers get tired of producing two versions of the headlights - we'll have the good stuff, or if the manufacturers are just changing it in software, you can bet someone will hack into that and "fix" it for us..

 

[deilenberger]

Well - it's not only headlights:

I suspect all the tech is already in the current cars, it just has to be enabled.

 

[srobak]

I suspect all the tech is already in the current cars, it just has to be enabled.

The longer we stay away from self-driving cars - the better off we will be. All the tech that has been developed is supposed to have been supplemental. It was never supposed to take away from the actual responsibility or experience of driving. Rear view cams, parking sensors, cross-traffic sensors, blind spot detection, front collision avoidance/automatic braking, lane keeping, parking assist, etc. Too many people have turned to rely on those as being primary driving systems so they can pay more attention to their instant, self-gratification like counts on social media. It needs to stop. </getoffmylawn>

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[Sharon44r]

I live outside the city and for 5-6 months of the year, it is dark every time I drive to work and drive home...I have never had any issues with the headlights whatsoever. Not sure what the concern is.

Dark mountain roads

 

[Sharon44r]

If the model GV70 you purchased has AFLS headlights, you have to set the stalk position to AUTO for them to function. Are you doing that?

If the model you purchased does not have AFLS headlights, then you bought the wrong model for your particular needs, assuming that AFLS is a feature on higher trim models.

There are always aftermarket lighting systems available. Stop by a local store in the mountains and get some estimates. You won’t be the first folks to add extra lighting for special needs.

 

[Sharon44r]

no, they are auto high and low beam headlights.. they do not turn. They turn high beams off an on automatically if set to auto. I heard they have adaptive headlights in Korea. We called the genesis corp

 

[PMCErnie]

no, they are auto high and low beam headlights.. they do not turn. They turn high beams off an on automatically if set to auto. I heard they have adaptive headlights in Korea. We called the genesis corp

Wow, you called the Genesis Corp. So, what did they tell you???????