Genesis vs Infiniti Q50

[kn5owa]

two very different cars for the same price imo.

the genesis is large and in charge.

Most of the discussion is on gadgets.

How about?

1. Engines - What's out there?

2. Steering/brakes

3. Fit and Finish

4. Overall handling

5. Suspension and/or tires

Come on -- There's more to cars than gadgets - all of which are a work in progress --- Hey! Tell your radio to turn itself off with voice recog. Can't do even a little silly thing like that.

And these suckers are gonna drive themselves. Sure.

 

[jimb100]

I agree it is very solid in normal sweeping turns. I wonder if a stiffer anti-sway bar would reduce the leaning into hard turns.

Generally speaking, its unwise to increase the size of one sway bar. Usually doing this will induce either over or under steer.

On cars with greater performance potential (Corvette, Miata, etc) there has been enough trial and error conducted for these large markets to establish what works and what doesn't. Not so for the Genesis. Also, this is one of the reasons for the electronically controlled suspension.

 

[allan]

Most of the discussion is on gadgets.

How about?

1. Engines - What's out there?

2. Steering/brakes

3. Fit and Finish

4. Overall handling

5. Suspension and/or tires

Come on -- There's more to cars than gadgets - all of which are a work in progress --- Hey! Tell your radio to turn itself off with voice recog. Can't do even a little silly thing like that.

And these suckers are gonna drive themselves. Sure.

The q50's 3.7 V6 that was in the 2014 was a fabulous engine. Unfortunately they've change it his year. Direct Access Steering was also great and I miss the ability to "fine tune" the steering to my tastes. Having said that, I do like the relative tightness of the Genesis steering. The Infinit brakes were fine - as were fit and finish. Overall handling of the Q was more sports-like and was one of its high points. Suspension was also sportier and I prefer the Genesis in this regard. Ditto tires - didn't care for rft's and had the dealer swap them out at time of purchase. The Michelin tires they put on were fine - nothing special one way or the other.

 

[Pamplona/Beige]

Most of the discussion is on gadgets.

How about?

1. Engines - What's out there?

2. Steering/brakes

3. Fit and Finish

4. Overall handling

5. Suspension and/or tires

Come on -- There's more to cars than gadgets - all of which are a work in progress --- Hey! Tell your radio to turn itself off with voice recog. Can't do even a little silly thing like that.

And these suckers are gonna drive themselves. Sure.

So in order to activate the voice recognition feature to turn off the stereo, you'd have to push a button anyway. The Geneisis gives you two ways to turn off the radio. The power button on the dash, the Mode button on the steering wheel if held down will also power down the unit. All one button. And if you want to just mute it, you can do that with one button.

Not sure you have the best example of the VR system's inadequacies.

And Tech features/gadgets are what some of us use as criteria for comparing one good enough vehicle to the next. Let's face it, not everyone can appreciate or discern the different driving characteristics of vehicles nor is it necessarily an important criteria when making a purchase decision.

 

[mattrains]

I just got out of an optioned out G37X lease and into a 16 Genesis AWD with the Tech package in white with a beige interior and couldn't be happier although it is like comparing apples to oranges. The off the line response of the G was excellent and it definitely had a great exhaust note and engine noise but I was willing to give that up for all of the positives that this car has (I just ended up putting in a K&N drop-in filter in the Genesis so it does have a bit of a better note and feels the slightest bit peppier), but I still can't believe its a Hyundai! The fit and finish on the G was so/so but the dealer experience was terrible, that alone was why I didn't even bother looking at another Infiniti. The fit and finish on the Genesis is excellent although within a few days of picking it up the sunglass holder in the overhead console is already broken but I'm hoping that will be the worst extent of any issues with the car. The best thing about this was the price, so much car for a payment that was unbeatable ($362/month 15k a year with Tax&Fee's up front which came out to about $2300). Liberty Hyundai in Mahwah NJ is so far so good although when I came to pick up the car a few days after I signed the buyers order I thought that they did a pretty poor job of prepping and detailing it (The front still had dirt streaks from sitting in a lot) so they now owe me a detail. All in all I'm very happy with this choice of car.

Mat

 

[allan]

I wasn't comparing the G (which I also owned), but the Q. And aside from size and comfort (which the Genesis wins hands down), from a features perspective it's absolutely an appropriate comparison.

 

[mattrains]

I know, I read what you wrote originally. When I had loaners for service I usually would have a Q50 and aside from the slower electronics in and the heated steering wheel I didn't see much of a difference in the quality of everything. I had a loaded up Q50S a couple of times and it was too harsh of a ride with not the greatest handling, its still not quite a luxury car and still not quite a sports car. A G37 and a Q50 is apples to apples, either of those to a Genesis is apples to oranges in my book.

Mat

 

[allan]

The reason for the harsh ride in the Q is the RFT's. As I said in my first post, you need to try to work out a deal at purchase to have them replaced.

And I'm not going to argue fruit with you. You have your opinion and I, of course, am right

 

[volnedan]

I leased a 2014 Q50 AWD base model for 2 years, which ended last November. Although I liked the car, I did not love it mostly because it was a base model, and I wanted to replace it with the Sport model, but lease payment was too high. I bought a used Audi A5 6MT as a stop gap until I could find a good lease deal.

The previous 3.7 V6 was a gem of an engine, and I tried really hard to find a great lease deal on the leftover 2015s but I ran out of luck. By the time I sold my A5, the 2016s had changed the engine options and I did not like the new base turbo-4, and the new twin turbo V6s lease payments are ridiculous.

I love my Genesis, but I had to stop comparing it to the Q50 because they have different goals. Although the Genesis is sporty, it is not a proper sports sedan like the Q50, 3-series, IS, etc. I definitely miss the acceleration, braking, and handling of the much lighter Q50.

But the Genesis was a better value at the lease price I paid. The Q50 was just not worth the extra $80-$100 monthly payment.

 

[Ernie3647]

The Genesis is a proper luxury sedan that’s what it was designed to be from the beginning and in that role it does extremely well. As I’ve said before those looking for a dedicated sport sedan should be looking else ware.

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[Sal Collaziano]

I see a lot of people comparing the Genesis Sedan to the Infiniti Q50 but if I'm not mistaken it's really the Infiniti Q70 that would match up with the Genesis. I wonder how a comparison between THOSE two cars would be. I imagine much closer. The Q50 is a smaller, lighter car and without a doubt should be more sporty...

 

[allan]

I started this thread for three reasons:

1) They both cost about the same.

2) In that price range, I believe the Q50 and the Genesis were first the two cars that were loaded with current technology (lane keep assist, forward assist braking, radar-assisted cruise control, etc.) and in fact slightly "ahead of their time" in that regard.

3) I've now owned both vehicles and feel comfortable making the comparison.

I was not suggesting the Q50 and the Genesis fit into the same classification otherwise. The Genesis is a large car and has a more "luxurious" ride while the Q is 500 or so pounds lighter and is sportier and quicker. Having said that, I believe the two cars would appeal to a similar taste (as seems to be evidenced in this thread) and the comparison is valid.

 

[XPO439]

I started this thread for three reasons:

1) They both cost about the same.

2) In that price range, I believe the Q50 and the Genesis were first the two cars that were loaded with current technology (lane keep assist, forward assist braking, radar-assisted cruise control, etc.) and in fact slightly "ahead of their time" in that regard.

3) I've now owned both vehicles and feel comfortable making the comparison.

I was not suggesting the Q50 and the Genesis fit into the same classification otherwise. The Genesis is a large car and has a more "luxurious" ride while the Q is 500 or so pounds lighter and is sportier and quicker. Having said that, I believe the two cars would appeal to a similar taste (as seems to be evidenced in this thread) and the comparison is valid.

#3 - What do you mean by "quicker"? Do you mean, Q50, with more horsepower and torque than the V6 Genny quicker? Or quicker than the V8 Genny...?

Agree with Genesis Motors, the Genesis should be compared to the (discontinued) Q70 5.6, equal horsepower, amenities, etc.

 

[allan]

I had the 3.7 liter V6 and currently own the V6 Genesis. The acceleration in the Q was outstanding and the 0-60 was 5.2. The Genesis is anywhere from 6.2 to 7.2 depending on what you read . Hey look - I'm pleased with the power of the Genesis - just making a comparison of the two cars here, that's all.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I know you're aware of the aforementioned stuff, Allan. I should have mentioned that in my post. I'm glad you posted your comparison...