Getting Genesis fever again

[dhall57]

I haven't been on this forum in a while but several years ago I bought a 2013 3.8 V6 with Tech Pkg. We've put nearly 40k on it since then with no issues what so ever and I think its a great car. So good I'm playing with the idea of maybe getting another 1st gen Genesis for me being the current one is mainly my wife's. These 1st gen cars are getting some age and high miles on them but you still can find some fairly low mile ones out there also. Im interested in the 2011 4.6 V8 with 6 speed trans and Ive read a lot of good reviews for this year. I think this was the last model year for this setup before going the 5.0 V8 and the 8 speed trans. Top mileage I would consider would be 75 to 80k and ideal would be mid 50's or less.. And I've seen pricing in this mileage range from $1250.00 to $1550.00.

 

[AgentSmith007]

Hi dhall57,

First, I think you miss typed the pricing. It should be $12,500 to $15,000.

Second, you are thinking in the right direction. 2011 4.6 V8 was the last model year with non-GDI engine and 6-speed transmission before Hyundai switched to 5.0 V8 GDI engine and 8-speed transmission. There are some 2012 cars with 4.6 V8, but they already have 8-speed trans.

I have 2011 4.6 V8 with 6-speed ZF transmission and I am very happy camper.

Feel free to ask any specific question.

Oh, and I found some cars for you.

Used 2011 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - $13,900 and 67,586 miles

Used 2011 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - $13,132 and 48,600 miles

Used 2011 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - $9,788 and 84,196 miles

 

[PMCErnie]

I like the 5 year-old used car rule. Don’t buy one older than 5 years. That would be a ‘14 1st generation Genesis. You like the ‘13 1st gen (refresh) model that you currently own.
Don’t take a step backwards to an early 1st gen model.

 

[dhall57]

I like the 5 year-old used car rule. Don’t buy one older than 5 years. That would be a ‘14 1st generation Genesis. You like the ‘13 1st gen (refresh) model that you currently own.
Don’t take a step backwards to an early 1st gen model.

 

[dhall57]

Hi dhall57,

First, I think you miss typed the pricing. It should be $12,500 to $15,000.

Second, you are thinking in the right direction. 2011 4.6 V8 was the last model year with non-GDI engine and 6-speed transmission before Hyundai switched to 5.0 V8 GDI engine and 8-speed transmission. There are some 2012 cars with 4.6 V8, but they already have 8-speed trans.

I have 2011 4.6 V8 with 6-speed ZF transmission and I am very happy camper.

Feel free to ask any specific question.

Oh, and I found some cars for you.

Used 2011 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - $13,900 and 67,586 miles

Used 2011 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - $13,132 and 48,600 miles

Used 2011 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 - $9,788 and 84,196 miles

 

[dhall57]

Not sure what I did here when I was first trying to post here I guess I hit the wrong button. Im still thinking about maybe getting another Genesis and I went and looked at one the other day and man was I let down. I know pics can fool you and that's why I always try to find one that's close enough to go eyeball it myself before doing anything. The photo's would make you believe that its was a nice used 2011 4.6 that's why I drove over hour to check it out. The interior looked fairly clean and decent but the exterior was a different story. The finish was coming off all four wheels badly and I guess it would pass inspection but the tires weren't the best either. More then several dents and scrapes in the sheet metal and bumper covers that had been touched up but still stuck out like a sore thumb. No question I would not want this car to be my second Genesis.

 

[Jabald]

I like the 5 year-old used car rule. Don’t buy one older than 5 years. That would be a ‘14 1st generation Genesis. You like the ‘13 1st gen (refresh) model that you currently own.
Don’t take a step backwards to an early 1st gen model.

5 years might work for you, but that’s not a good rule of thumb.

A late model 2011 4.6 with the 6 speed transmission has the best drivetrain hands down.

The 4.6 Is better than the gdi engines, ecpecially in the long run. Research the difference between gdi and port injected.

The same zf transmission is used in so many luxury manufacturer’s cars. Some bentleys, maseratis, mercedes, and jags run the same transmission at 400+ horsepower. We only get around 330 rwhp, so it’s going to last a while in our cars.

In the second gen, yeah you get the 4.6 engine, but you’re stuck with the 8 speed transmission!

 

[AgentSmith007]

5 years might work for you, but that’s not a good rule of thumb.

A late model 2011 4.6 with the 6 speed transmission has the best drivetrain hands down.

The 4.6 Is better than the gdi engines, ecpecially in the long run. Research the difference between gdi and port injected.

The same zf transmission is used in so many luxury manufacturer’s cars. Some bentleys, maseratis, mercedes, and jags run the same transmission at 400+ horsepower. We only get around 330 rwhp, so it’s going to last a while in our cars.

In the second gen, yeah you get the 4.6 engine, but you’re stuck with the 8 speed transmission!

I was thinking of buying 2014 R-Spec with 5.0 V8 GDI and trade my 2011 4.6 V8, but now I am having second thought.

 

[PMCErnie]

5 years might work for you, but that’s not a good rule of thumb.

A late model 2011 4.6 with the 6 speed transmission has the best drivetrain hands down.

The 4.6 Is better than the gdi engines, ecpecially in the long run. Research the difference between gdi and port injected.

The same zf transmission is used in so many luxury manufacturer’s cars. Some bentleys, maseratis, mercedes, and jags run the same transmission at 400+ horsepower. We only get around 330 rwhp, so it’s going to last a while in our cars.

In the second gen, yeah you get the 4.6 engine, but you’re stuck with the 8 speed transmission!

I think you are living in the old-tech past, but that’s fine if it works for you. My ‘12 8 spd is smooth as silk. 3.8 is great too. I also have an extended warranty that will last till 2024. I sleep very well.

 

[Jabald]

I think you are living in the old-tech past, but that’s fine if it works for you. My ‘12 8 spd is smooth as silk. 3.8 is great too. I also have an extended warranty that will last till 2024. I sleep very well.

You think 1 year older is too old? Really???

How many miles you have on them?

Im sure your transmissions are just fine. I’m not bashing the new transmissions. Yours probably run exceptionally well. All I’m saying is the zf is solid, and reliable.

What new tech does your 2012 have that my 2011 doesn’t?

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[MG8]

You think 1 year older is too old? Really???

How many miles you have on them?

Im sure your transmissions are just fine. I’m not bashing the new transmissions. Yours probably run exceptionally well. All I’m saying is the zf is solid, and reliable.

What new tech does your 2012 have that my 2011 doesn’t?

i have both in the family and there both great cars the 6spd trans is great reliable but i must say shifts are really slow compare to my Rspec 8spd while there are few with transmission issues the 4.6 is no slouch but if i were to choose id pick the Rspec every time, once you drive that 430 hp 5.0 you wont go back.

 

[MG8]

You think 1 year older is too old? Really???

How many miles you have on them?

Im sure your transmissions are just fine. I’m not bashing the new transmissions. Yours probably run exceptionally well. All I’m saying is the zf is solid, and reliable.

What new tech does your 2012 have that my 2011 doesn’t?

as far as upgrades there Changes to shock and spring rates and rear stabilizer, to provide a smoother ride.
New eight-inch touchscreen display with navigation and an enhanced multi-media controller and Driver Information System (DIS)Hyundai Blue Link telematics available with Ultimate Navigation package, some revised controls. the Rspecs got Sport-tuned suspension calibration , thicker front and rear sway bars and that 430hp 5.0.

 

[dhall57]

Not going to lie a R spec has crossed my mind also.

 

[66nexus]

I was all set on a R-Spec a couple of years back but the trans was one of the things that killed it. I did feel that it shifted faster, but it seemed to 'gear hunt' a lot more than my ZF. I decided to keep mine and add the things I didn't have: dark-chrome insert headlights, rear sway bar and shocks, sideskirts (12-14 models).

I didn't get to get up into the nice speeds up top (I'd safe bet it that the R-Spec is prob slightly faster up top), but down low they seemed too close to want to upgrade.

Something I've never understood, it seemed the '14 model year gained a couple hundred lbs, but I can't imagine what they've added that would've done such a thing.

 

[MG8]

I was all set on a R-Spec a couple of years back but the trans was one of the things that killed it. I did feel that it shifted faster, but it seemed to 'gear hunt' a lot more than my ZF. I decided to keep mine and add the things I didn't have: dark-chrome insert headlights, rear sway bar and shocks, sideskirts (12-14 models).

I didn't get to get up into the nice speeds up top (I'd safe bet it that the R-Spec is prob slightly faster up top), but down low they seemed too close to want to upgrade.

Something I've never understood, it seemed the '14 model year gained a couple hundred lbs, but I can't imagine what they've added that would've done such a thing.

where you driving on eco? btr trans tune or sprint booster will fix that.
there actually a noticeable difference in acceleration and all through out the power band. i raced my family members modded 4.6 and leave him all the time like he is at a stop light both from dig and a roll same results every time. but they are all great cars.

 

[66nexus]

where you driving on eco? btr trans tune or sprint booster will fix that.
there actually a noticeable difference in acceleration and all through out the power band. i raced my family members modded 4.6 and leave him all the time like he is at a stop light both from dig and a roll same results every time. but they are all great cars.

Left him like at a stop light?! Maybe you're tuned and he's not? I've tussled with a couple of R-Specs in my area NY/NJ (mixed results) but they were nowhere near that much faster (that sounds like M3/M4 faster). Then again, I don't think they were BTR tuned. Well hell, neither am I!

RSpec wasn't in eco mode. It shifted smoothly but when getting on it (and coming down from higher revs) it seemed to shift around a bit. Perhaps I'm more sensitive since they all seemed to do it.

 

[daviderle]

I had both 4.6 2009 V8 for just over 10 years with 110k miles, and 2013 R-spec with just 44k miles for just under five years, they where both wonderful to drive and had thier own characters. Although the R-Spec with the upgraded 20” 275 rear wheels was a monster in its own right, the 4.6 was the the default go to ride for long trips as it was a wonderful cruiser, for example we did a trip from ATL to Pennsylvania in under eleven and a half hours and arrived to my destinatiom fresh as a daisy.
So IMHO the choise boils down to needs and wants for you specific situation, if you need your daily drive to be spieced up a bit, go for a 13/14 R-Spec, on the other hand if a tad better fuel economy, as well as, you tend to go on a longer journeys, one can’t beat the cushy ride of the 4.6 with a decient set of tires (and UNIQ rigit collars for good measure). Just my two cents...

 

[MG8]

Left him like at a stop light?! Maybe you're tuned and he's not? I've tussled with a couple of R-Specs in my area NY/NJ (mixed results) but they were nowhere near that much faster (that sounds like M3/M4 faster). Then again, I don't think they were BTR tuned. Well hell, neither am I!

RSpec wasn't in eco mode. It shifted smoothly but when getting on it (and coming down from higher revs) it seemed to shift around a bit. Perhaps I'm more sensitive since they all seemed to do it.

i mean even before my tune we went at it, and from the dig after 40 mph i was pulling away convincingly.

 

[MG8]

think about it Rspec runs 13.1 magazine results and i know some on here is doing 12.6 stock
and 4.6 is a 13.8 mag results that half a sec or so is already like a car length.

 

[66nexus]

I've only been on this forum for 6 years, but I don't recall seeing any stock R-Spec's running 12.6's (possible? Perhaps. Perhaps a factory freak car, but I just haven't seen it on here). The best time I saw posted from a mag stock was 12.9 (I honestly don't remember where I saw that and can't find it but I'm sure I saw that somewhere), but the average about .2-4 faster than the 4.6 around 13.3, 13.4 so sure I agree there. The best time I saw for the 4.6 stock was 13.7. The mags are all over the place with times:

"the 4234-pound R-Spec carries 115 more pounds. The newer model was slightly quicker in a straight line: We squeezed a 5.1-second 0-to-60 time from the R-Spec and covered the quarter in 13.7 seconds at 103 mph. Our long-termer’s initial test numbers read 5.3 and 13.8 at 104" *(their long termer was an '09 which had 10 less hp than '10-11, negligible but thought I'd point it out)

2012 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0 Sedan

Motortrend managed a 4.8 0-60 (which is great), but their 1/4 mile was still only 13.3.

I take it all with a grain of salt. I was headed toward an RSpec even though it didn't feel like I was getting much 'more' car. But I couldn't get with the transmission. BTR didn't have their tune then I don't believe. If buying new I'd consider the R-Spec much more (while keeping the 4.6 on the table as an option). The R-Spec is, without a doubt, the quicker and faster car (just wasn't enough quicker/faster for me at that point).