Getting used to slippery roads - No ESC for me!.....

[Cut-Throat]

The snow season has arrived in Minnesota and I am getting used to driving the Genesis in slippery conditions. Just a couple of inches of snow will send the ESC into action.

I have found that the car is far easier to control without the ESC on. This is for driving around town from 0-40 mph. If I was on a mostly dry highway in winter going around 60 mph, I would turn it back on.

Anyone else found this thing?

 

[cschuler]

I now live in Florida and hope that I will not have to test or evaluate the ECU. I come from Pennsylvania and have lots of experience driving on snow, ice, and worst of all ... water on ice.

I was darned good at getting there back in those days, when many ran off the road and got stuck (or worse). I had a feel for the car and the basic physics of motion. I doubt that a computer chip could trump that.

 

[Cut-Throat]

I now live in Florida and hope that I will not have to test or evaluate the ECU. I come from Pennsylvania and have lots of experience driving on snow, ice, and worst of all ... water on ice.

I was darned good at getting there back in those days, when many ran off the road and got stuck (or worse). I had a feel for the car and the basic physics of motion. I doubt that a computer chip could trump that.

In my opinion the ESC makes driving at slow speeds much worse! - I think the ESC comes into play if you are driving at high speeds and lose control, it will react and save your life. However at low speeds in snow, trying to get traction, it removes power from the wheels and starts applying brakes. This makes it almost impossible to get going (without snow tires)

 

[cschuler]

In my opinion the ESC makes driving at slow speeds much worse! - I think the ESC comes into play if you are driving at high speeds and lose control, it will react and save your life. However at low speeds in snow, trying to get traction, it removes power from the wheels and starts applying brakes. This makes it almost impossible to get going (without snow tires)

That makes sense. I once lost control of a car at highway speeds (due to hydroplaning with heavy rain) and the medial barrier probably saved my life. The car rotated left and all of my driving skill was worthless at that point. Would ESC have fixed that unwanted rotation? Who knows?

The medial barrier wiped out the front bumper of my car as it slid sideways for a hundred feet or so and then the car continued rotating and I wound up facing against traffic on I-70. Luck was still with me and I made a quick U-turn and got home alive. With only $1200 in damage to the front bumper.

I have since slowed down for heavy rain. Those 18-wheelers can pass me and I don't mind. They don't hydroplane like cars.

 

[ellsworth007]

That makes sense. I once lost control of a car at highway speeds (due to hydroplaning with heavy rain) and the medial barrier probably saved my life. The car rotated left and all of my driving skill was worthless at that point. Would ESC have fixed that unwanted rotation? Who knows?

The medial barrier wiped out the front bumper of my car as it slid sideways for a hundred feet or so and then the car continued rotating and I wound up facing against traffic on I-70. Luck was still with me and I made a quick U-turn and got home alive. With only $1200 in damage to the front bumper.

I have since slowed down for heavy rain. Those 18-wheelers can pass me and I don't mind. They don't hydroplane like cars.

Now theres an adrenaline high . Glad you made it out of that one.