Help making sure I understand Genesis Trim Options

[adam61]

I'm new to Genesis Sedan research and am seriously looking at picking up a 2012 as they become more prevalent. The trim level options seemed a little different then I typically see so I was making sure I had all the information. I'm not really interested in the base car so I'd be looking at a 3.8 Tech, 4.6 or 5.0 R. Once I only considered those 3 the pricing got really similar on all 3, so I began to wonder for $3,500 why doesn't everyone end up with the R-Spec? or to a lesser degree for $1,500 why not the 4.6 over 3.8 Tech? I show $43,850 for 3.8 Tech, $45,350 for 4.6, and $47,350 for 5.0 R-Spec.

So before I continued my research down one of those paths I just wanted to confirm the prices I had MSRPwise were correct. And then make sure as you move up in Trim levels you don't lose anything as you move up engines? Other than that do you gain anything as you move up trim levels? (On the comparison I noticed 19s+Monogram Mats on the R-Spec and obviously the bigger engines as you move up, but nothing else)

Thanks for your help, just trying to make sure I understand the differences before I decide which way I'd like to go.

 

[Mark_888]

I'm new to Genesis Sedan research and am seriously looking at picking up a 2012 as they become more prevalent. The trim level options seemed a little different then I typically see so I was making sure I had all the information. I'm not really interested in the base car so I'd be looking at a 3.8 Tech, 4.6 or 5.0 R. Once I only considered those 3 the pricing got really similar on all 3, so I began to wonder for $3,500 why doesn't everyone end up with the R-Spec? or to a lesser degree for $1,500 why not the 4.6 over 3.8 Tech? I show $43,850 for 3.8 Tech, $45,350 for 4.6, and $47,350 for 5.0 R-Spec.

So before I continued my research down one of those paths I just wanted to confirm the prices I had MSRPwise were correct. And then make sure as you move up in Trim levels you don't lose anything as you move up engines? Other than that do you gain anything as you move up trim levels? (On the comparison I noticed 19s+Monogram Mats on the R-Spec and obviously the bigger engines as you move up, but nothing else)

Thanks for your help, just trying to make sure I understand the differences before I decide which way I'd like to go.

Not everyone wants a sport-tuned suspension as on the R-Spec. Many pre-2012 owners think their suspension is already too stiff.

I think your pricing is correct (based on Hyundai website), and the V6 Tech Package is only $1500 less than the V8. But don't forget the 2012 V6 is GDI and a pretty big horsepower increase over previous V6. The ligher V6 was already almost as fast as the V8 below 60 MPH, and maybe about the same in 2012, and now gets 2 MPG better fuel economy than the old V6. Also, the pre-2012 V6 had a less expensive transmission, but now they are the same Hyundai 8-speed tranny.

 

[adam61]

I'm coming out of a Pontiac G8 GXP and while I'm keeping that car I was excited to see a similar HP rated car in the mid-40s. I love my G8, but miss a lot of the luxury features from the more luxury oriented brands.

I just was a little confused with the 3 trim levels (once you put tech on the base) being so close in price. There's less than an 8% difference in price between base and R-Spec. But the bottom line is you don't lose or gain much besides the engine as you move through the trims? The only other change would be the floormats, 19s, and stiffer suspension on the R.

Thanks for your help, just making sure I have it straight.

 

[robthoke]

You're correct in your assertion. Personally I'm waiting for the R Spec, but others don't put that much into horsepower and for them the 3.8 is the better fit. Most of the 3.8 owners here will tell you they are very satisfied with their ride and could care less about the 4.6 or the 5.0. And some love the car, but have reached their price limit. I find it odd that many of the other makes charge $7 to $10K more for V8 models. Hyundai is showing the industry that it ain't so.

 

[Ruissimo]

I've mentioned this before... it is getting very difficult to find reasons to get that 4.6L model in the 2012 MY.

Here's the official Hyundai features list, so you can compare all the trims: http://hyundainews.com/assets/Media_Kits/2012_Models/Genesis/2012%20Genesis%20Features%20FINAL.doc

 

[Gurkha]

I've mentioned this before... it is getting very difficult to find reasons to get that 4.6L model in the 2012 MY.

How about a slightly more comfortable suspension compared to the 5.0?

 

[Mark_888]

You're correct in your assertion. Personally I'm waiting for the R Spec, but others don't put that much into horsepower and for them the 3.8 is the better fit. Most of the 3.8 owners here will tell you they are very satisfied with their ride and could care less about the 4.6 or the 5.0. And some love the car, but have reached their price limit. I find it odd that many of the other makes charge $7 to $10K more for V8 models. Hyundai is showing the industry that it ain't so.

Most current 3.8 owners are quite happy with the power of their Genesis, and for 2012 the 3.8 gets a big jump in horsepower from 2011. Be interested to see 0-60 times for the 2012 models. Also, 3.8 gets 3 MPG better on highway than 4.6, and now same transmission on both cars.

Initially the 4.6 was a big price difference over the 3.8, but again different transmission prior to 2012 and a lot of extras on the 4.6 that were not on the 3.8. Hyundai is changing that by offering fully equipped 3.8, especially as oil prices remain high and CAFE targets loom on the horizon.

 

[robthoke]

I've read that new 3.8 with 333hp and the 8 sp tranny should be as quick as the old 4.6. The new 3.8 is rated 18-27 mpg and I won't be surprised if new owners report in excess of 30 mpg on the highway. My current 4.6 gives me about 27 on the highway now. I say I want the R Spec but in reality I'm going to drive all of them before I commit. But those 19 inch wheels look pretty good and 429 hp is enticing. I would not be surprised to find the R Spec giving back more than 25 mpg on the highway.

 

[Mark_888]

Here are the 2012 Specs:

EPA ratings for City / Highway / Combined MPG:

3.8 - 19 / 29 / 22
4.6 - 17 / 26 / 20
5.0 - 16 / 25 / 19

Horsepower @ RPM

3.8 - 333 @ 6400 regular
4.6 - 385 @ 6500 premium / 378 @ 6500 regular
5.0 - 429 @ 6400 premium / TBD regular

Tourque (lb-ft)

3.8 - 291 @ 5100
4.6 - 333 @ 3500 premium / 324 @ 3500 regular
5.0 - 376 @ 5000 premium / TBD regular

Curb Weight

3.8 - 3,824 - 3,971
4.6 - 4,024 - 4,132
5.0 - 4,046 - 4,154