Hello Everyone. I come here today hopeful to get my Mom in the Genny club.
What I am trying to do right now is nail down the best choice of Genesis for my mother, based on her driving habits... finances... etc. I'm hoping you Genny experts can steer me in the right direction on which year/model/package will fit her best. So here goes...
Basically, my mother has been buying brand new Fords, Buicks, and so forth the past few car cycles of her life. To me, these cars and their 3/36,000: 5/60,000 Warranty have been terrible choices for her, because she does not drive that much (perhaps 8,000 miles per year). Thus, the warranties expire before she has really racked up miles and she ends up paying out of pocket for all the repairs that don't occur until after 50 or 60,000 miles.
She doesn't know better so she was ready to do this all over again with a new Nissan or one of the others.... but I've stopped her and tried to make her understand why this is bad for her... and how CPO programs work... and how a 5/60k Basic: 10/100k Power Train Genesis (from in service date) is a better car with a far better warranty for her and her low mile driving habits.
I seem to have convinced her (pre-test drive and all that) that this is best for her, so now the pressure is on for me to find the right year/model/options that fit her best.
Here is what I can tell you about her, and hopefully some of you can help steer me to the right car or two to pick from...
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1. She is not tech savvy at all. Never touched a Nav screen in her life. She only makes 1 or 2 drives a year that requires directions. I usually print them out for her and that works fine enough.
2. She's not going to know any difference between a Lexicon 14 speaker and 17 speaker system. I understand 14 Lexicon is standard with every year of the Genesis. Correct me if I'm wrong.
3. A sunroof would be nice. Not essential, but I think she's like it even though she claims she doesn't care about that.
4. The rear window shade would be really nice, but not essential.
5. A V6 is fine for her, but if a V8 is simply a better car, great.
6. Heated Seats appear to be standard, but cooled seats would be a great bonus... for her as a driver and her passengers. I'm having a hard time understanding what year/models have cooled seats (driver only? passenger? back seats?).
7. The backup camera sounds nice, but I don't think she's gonna care about looking behind her for 8 more years or so.
8. This is very important... she will KILL ME if she gets a car with electronic goodies she doesn't care about that end up costing her big $$$ to repair. I also don't think she'd be very happy about spending big $$$ to upgrade a Nav unit every couple years (although, I don't know why anyone would want to upgrade all that often, unless there are new roads being built around you often, or you travel alot).
9. She's getting a CPO, because a brand new Genny is above her budget, so 2009-2011's are the choices... although I'd like to go with a 2010 or 11 if possible for warranty purposes. If I'm advised to go very basic with the car, then 2009 is a possibility if you think the most basic model would avoid all the famous "electronic problems".
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So basically, I'm trying to get her the nicest car possible while minimizing her risk to future electrical problems/technology costs (and on a CPO, they have a very short warranty left in terms of certain electronics).
My initial thoughts are that any Tech Package car is a no go, and the most Basic Premium Package is the best bet for her. I'm not sure where the "in-between" Premium Nav (non Tech Package) models fit into this. I seem to read that the touch-screen Nav is less costly to deal with if there are problems/updates, but perhaps I should avoid any Navigation units at all? I'm not really sure what else I'm losing when I take away all Navigation models.
So that is the basic criteria for how I'm trying to select a year/model. If any additional information is needed, please ask.
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I do have a few reservations about the Genesis that makes me question whether this is even the right car for her. I'll list those in case anyone wants to address them.
1. She live in Connecticut. It snows in Connecticut. Wet leaves in Connecticut. Black Ice in Connecticut. I have told her its R-Wheel Drive and that it might be best she drive a "snow car" 2-3 months of the year. She seems ok with the idea if needed. I know some suggest just switch tires every November and March, but this is a 60 year old lady. She's not going to be changing 4 tires twice every year and rolling them into her garage for storage.
I'm also concerned with people talking about this car having problems in the rain/standing water. It's one thing to hear these things and buy a car for yourself, and another thing to hear these things and suggest someone else buy this car.
2. Maintenance Costs. I'm wondering if perhaps I am fooling myself a bit with the Maintenance Costs of this car (things that wear out, not under warranty, oil changes, etc.). I want to believe she'd be getting a Luxury Car with "typical" Hyundai Maintenance Costs. How good or bad is it to replace things that wear out?
Oil changes sound fine, but Brake Pads, Filters, etc.? I've also heard complaints about the back tires wearing out fast on this car.
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head right now. Hopefully a few people can chime in and put me in the right direction. Thanks to anyone who offers their opinion!
What I am trying to do right now is nail down the best choice of Genesis for my mother, based on her driving habits... finances... etc. I'm hoping you Genny experts can steer me in the right direction on which year/model/package will fit her best. So here goes...
Basically, my mother has been buying brand new Fords, Buicks, and so forth the past few car cycles of her life. To me, these cars and their 3/36,000: 5/60,000 Warranty have been terrible choices for her, because she does not drive that much (perhaps 8,000 miles per year). Thus, the warranties expire before she has really racked up miles and she ends up paying out of pocket for all the repairs that don't occur until after 50 or 60,000 miles.
She doesn't know better so she was ready to do this all over again with a new Nissan or one of the others.... but I've stopped her and tried to make her understand why this is bad for her... and how CPO programs work... and how a 5/60k Basic: 10/100k Power Train Genesis (from in service date) is a better car with a far better warranty for her and her low mile driving habits.
I seem to have convinced her (pre-test drive and all that) that this is best for her, so now the pressure is on for me to find the right year/model/options that fit her best.
Here is what I can tell you about her, and hopefully some of you can help steer me to the right car or two to pick from...
----------------------
1. She is not tech savvy at all. Never touched a Nav screen in her life. She only makes 1 or 2 drives a year that requires directions. I usually print them out for her and that works fine enough.
2. She's not going to know any difference between a Lexicon 14 speaker and 17 speaker system. I understand 14 Lexicon is standard with every year of the Genesis. Correct me if I'm wrong.
3. A sunroof would be nice. Not essential, but I think she's like it even though she claims she doesn't care about that.
4. The rear window shade would be really nice, but not essential.
5. A V6 is fine for her, but if a V8 is simply a better car, great.
6. Heated Seats appear to be standard, but cooled seats would be a great bonus... for her as a driver and her passengers. I'm having a hard time understanding what year/models have cooled seats (driver only? passenger? back seats?).
7. The backup camera sounds nice, but I don't think she's gonna care about looking behind her for 8 more years or so.
8. This is very important... she will KILL ME if she gets a car with electronic goodies she doesn't care about that end up costing her big $$$ to repair. I also don't think she'd be very happy about spending big $$$ to upgrade a Nav unit every couple years (although, I don't know why anyone would want to upgrade all that often, unless there are new roads being built around you often, or you travel alot).
9. She's getting a CPO, because a brand new Genny is above her budget, so 2009-2011's are the choices... although I'd like to go with a 2010 or 11 if possible for warranty purposes. If I'm advised to go very basic with the car, then 2009 is a possibility if you think the most basic model would avoid all the famous "electronic problems".
-------------------------------------
So basically, I'm trying to get her the nicest car possible while minimizing her risk to future electrical problems/technology costs (and on a CPO, they have a very short warranty left in terms of certain electronics).
My initial thoughts are that any Tech Package car is a no go, and the most Basic Premium Package is the best bet for her. I'm not sure where the "in-between" Premium Nav (non Tech Package) models fit into this. I seem to read that the touch-screen Nav is less costly to deal with if there are problems/updates, but perhaps I should avoid any Navigation units at all? I'm not really sure what else I'm losing when I take away all Navigation models.
So that is the basic criteria for how I'm trying to select a year/model. If any additional information is needed, please ask.
--------------------------
I do have a few reservations about the Genesis that makes me question whether this is even the right car for her. I'll list those in case anyone wants to address them.
1. She live in Connecticut. It snows in Connecticut. Wet leaves in Connecticut. Black Ice in Connecticut. I have told her its R-Wheel Drive and that it might be best she drive a "snow car" 2-3 months of the year. She seems ok with the idea if needed. I know some suggest just switch tires every November and March, but this is a 60 year old lady. She's not going to be changing 4 tires twice every year and rolling them into her garage for storage.
I'm also concerned with people talking about this car having problems in the rain/standing water. It's one thing to hear these things and buy a car for yourself, and another thing to hear these things and suggest someone else buy this car.
2. Maintenance Costs. I'm wondering if perhaps I am fooling myself a bit with the Maintenance Costs of this car (things that wear out, not under warranty, oil changes, etc.). I want to believe she'd be getting a Luxury Car with "typical" Hyundai Maintenance Costs. How good or bad is it to replace things that wear out?
Oil changes sound fine, but Brake Pads, Filters, etc.? I've also heard complaints about the back tires wearing out fast on this car.
That's about all I can think of off the top of my head right now. Hopefully a few people can chime in and put me in the right direction. Thanks to anyone who offers their opinion!
