In a little bit of a transmission pan pickle

[5.0KDM]

The mounting points line up with the old pan. The marking on the patient pending #s on the outside of the pan both match.

 

[carguy75]

My trans still gives the occasional weird shift but much improved from previous - may have my indie do another drain & refill to get the rest of the old crap out.

My plan was to do the drain and fill at 75k miles and then another drain when I swap the transmission pan to change the filter at 100k miles. I would then do 30k miles or so drain and fills after that until 190k miles when I would change the filter-pan again.

 

[carguy75]

The mounting points line up with the old pan. The marking on the patient pending #s on the outside of the pan both match.;0

Cool. I was thinking that it should fit, but better safe than sorry.

 

[5.0KDM]

Cool. I was thinking that it should fit, but better safe than sorry.

Yep! I will also compare the inside of it when I get a chance to change the pan.

 

[5.0KDM]

Here's the verdict. The pan had a different size level tube insert and a extra inlet for the filter but it bolted right up. I switched the level tube from my old one. It comes off really easy. All I had to do is pitch it and it came right out.

 

[carguy75]

Here's the verdict. The pan had a different size level tube insert and a extra inlet for the filter but it bolted right up. I switched the level tube from my old one. It comes off really easy. All I had to do is pitch it and it came right out.

I will check to see how my replacement transmission pan compares to the one you have.

 

[carguy75]

My transmission pan is the same as the stock pan I believe with only one inlet. Part number 45280-4E020 even though it lists other part numbers on the pan as well. I will not know for sure until I swap pans.

 

[carguy75]

Here's the verdict. The pan had a different size level tube insert and a extra inlet for the filter but it bolted right up. I switched the level tube from my old one. It comes off really easy. All I had to do is pitch it and it came right out.

My main concern would be the extra inlet tube preventing the pan from properly sitting flush on the transmission if it presses against the valve body.

I would try to return it for the proper transmission pan you ordered.

 

[5.0KDM]

I got the pan on just fine. The car is shifting and driving like it should. Fingers crossed it holds up ha I'm gambling here. But that is how my stock pan looked when it came out.

 

[koovoodoo]

How much transmission oil did you fill with the new pan? Total amount? Thanks

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[5.0KDM]

I had a shop fill it up. They had a lift and better tools to fill the pan up. I attached the invoice. I'm assuming its 5 quarts but that seems kinda low.

 

[skipgen]

I had a shop fill it up. They had a lift and better tools to fill the pan up. I attached the invoice. I'm assuming its 5 quarts but that seems kinda low.View attachment 50869

Not really - my guys said about 6 qts drained out of mine.

 

[carguy75]

I had a shop fill it up. They had a lift and better tools to fill the pan up. I attached the invoice. I'm assuming its 5 quarts but that seems kinda low.View attachment 50869

Seems about right.

You can only fill about 3.5 quarts of transmission fluid in the pan through the fill hole with an old filter full of fluid. So I assume that it would take about 1.5 quarts or so additional fluid to perform a fluid change with a new dry filter/pan installed.

Note: Two different people doing the filling process could measure the amount draining out the check port differently. I waited until the fluid dribbled out the check hole in my transmission; someone else could probably wait until it is lightly streaming out of the check hole. Both methods will work; but it could make a difference of 5 quarts vs. 5.5-6 quarts of total fluid used.

 

[PETER.RHOADS.bills@GMAIL.]

Why does it make a difference to replace the pan, as opposed to cleaning it?

 

[joegr]

Why does it make a difference to replace the pan, as opposed to cleaning it?

Similar question: Why don't you just clean your oil filter instead of replacing it?

 

[PETER.RHOADS.bills@GMAIL.]

Similar question: Why don't you just clean your oil filter instead of replacing it?

Not really the same thing, first because this is a large, very expensive pan, and second because the "filter" is really just a metal screen as far as I can tell. Also, the dealership told me it can be cleaned and I am yet to hear from anyone that I can confirm is knowledgeable say otherwise.

 

[joegr]

Not really the same thing, first because this is a large, very expensive pan, and second because the "filter" is really just a metal screen as far as I can tell. Also, the dealership told me it can be cleaned and I am yet to hear from anyone that I can confirm is knowledgeable say otherwise.

I'm just giving you the general argument to your question as stated.
Personally, I agree about the screen and if it is really enough filled to need to be cleaned or replaced, the transmission probably needs to be rebuilt as it apparently has lost a lot of friction material.

 

[PETER.RHOADS.bills@GMAIL.]

Also not sure why the filter can not be removed and replaced, other than maybe the parts are hard to find. If it could be removed, it might be good to take a look at it to see if it has any residue buildup that might be hard to clean and would cause a flow restriction. Even tough caked on oil residue can be cleaned with the right solvent though.

 

[skipgen]

Also not sure why the filter can not be removed and replaced, other than maybe the parts are hard to find. If it could be removed, it might be good to take a look at it to see if it has any residue buildup that might be hard to clean and would cause a flow restriction. Even tough caked on oil residue can be cleaned with the right solvent though.

If so. it would have saved me $200....