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Is it improving or am I just getting use to it?

jaboyd

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I have a 2012 Rspec and have seemd to have noticed improvements in both the ride and the "tip-in" abruptness. After putting 8k mi on the car I've noticed the suspension is "less nervous" over the ripples and small imperfections in the road. Its almost like there was to much friction in the dampners causing the struts to resist moving over the small ripples. Don't get me wrong, it still has a rather abrupt reaction to sharp bumps and expansion joints, but the overall ride seems better.

I use to be so frustrated with the abruptness of the tip-in, especially after coming to a stop and gently but quickly stepping on the throttle. There was a hesitation and then a jerk as the transmission/drive train picked up the slack. All of that seems to be dimminished to the point that it feels acceptable (not sporty) for normal use.

I traded a 5 series BMW on the Rspec and after the first few months I was concerned that the Rspec was just not close enough to the Germans to meet them on performance, ride and overall luxury. Well I'm over that and believe that the Rspec is actually improving with age an indeed a good value and alternative.....either, as I age I'm less and less critical or the car is actually smoothing out....not sure it's not a little bit of each.
 
i think you are just getting used to it. I dont think hyundai have the same system where it learns drivers driving habits. I know all my previous bmw's it adapted to my driving style, and there was a process to reset the learning. However i dont think hyundai have the same system. I have the same feeling as you, im coming from only driving bmw's, had m3's, 545i's, x5 and i feel the same way. Had my 2009 4.6 for about couple months, and im debating if i should go back to a bmw. Im thinking of doing some more mod's on the 4.6 and see if i can make it drive a bit better. First off is the suspension, ordered some ark springs, hopefully that will stiffen up the ride.
 
Keep in mind that lowering springs don't necessarily improve handling. In many cases it can hurt it. See as we know so little about the Gennie's suspension, it can't be said either way. Rest assured though that Ark's springs are not geared for it.
 
a well engineered CO system with rebound and compression adjustable dampeners (with progressive springs) would be wonderful..
 
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i think you are just getting used to it. I dont think hyundai have the same system where it learns drivers driving habits. I know all my previous bmw's it adapted to my driving style, and there was a process to reset the learning. However i dont think hyundai have the same system. I have the same feeling as you, im coming from only driving bmw's, had m3's, 545i's, x5 and i feel the same way. Had my 2009 4.6 for about couple months, and im debating if i should go back to a bmw. Im thinking of doing some more mod's on the 4.6 and see if i can make it drive a bit better. First off is the suspension, ordered some ark springs, hopefully that will stiffen up the ride.


Hyundai does use adaptive learning system...it's TSB 10-AT-011, AUTOMATIC TRANS-AXLE CONTROL MODULE - RESET AND RELEARN ADAPTIVE VALUES. There is a TSB that tells the mechanic how to reset the adaptive values so it can re-learn your driving habits, especially useful if it was a used car purchase. As far as the suspension is concerned the system has no ability to learn.

Here's a snipit from the TSB of what they have to do out on the road:

II. RELEARN ADAPTIVE VALUES:

NOTE: After the adaptive values have been reset (erased), an “adaptive learning” procedure must be completed as shown below.

4. Attach a GDS and select VIN and A/T.
5. Select Current Data and “Throttle Position”.
6. Drive the vehicle until the ATF temperature is within the range shown on Page 5.
7. Request an assistant to monitor the GDS. Accelerate from a stop at the specified TPS specification while the transmission shifts through gears 1-2-3-4-5-6 and decelerate slowly to a stop. Stop for 5 seconds. Repeat 5 times. NOTE: Hold the accelerator pedal steady during the upshifts. CAUTION: Do not exceed legal speed limits.

If additional adaptation is needed, perform the following additional procedures:

8. Perform several sequential downshifts (5-4, 4-3, 3-2 and 2-1) at small to moderate throttle openings.
9. Perform several skip shifts (6-4, 5-3, 5-2, 3-1, etc.) at moderate to large throttle openings.
10. With the vehicle stopped, move the shift lever from P to N to D and back, stopping 3~5 seconds in each gear. Repeat 5 times.

This information comes from the following post on these forums:

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=6578
 
Hyundai does use adaptive learning system...it's TSB 10-AT-011, AUTOMATIC TRANS-AXLE CONTROL MODULE - RESET AND RELEARN ADAPTIVE VALUES. There is a TSB that tells the mechanic how to reset the adaptive values so it can re-learn your driving habits, especially useful if it was a used car purchase. As far as the suspension is concerned the system has no ability to learn.

Here's a snipit from the TSB of what they have to do out on the road:

II. RELEARN ADAPTIVE VALUES:

NOTE: After the adaptive values have been reset (erased), an “adaptive learning” procedure must be completed as shown below.

4. Attach a GDS and select VIN and A/T.
5. Select Current Data and “Throttle Position”.
6. Drive the vehicle until the ATF temperature is within the range shown on Page 5.
7. Request an assistant to monitor the GDS. Accelerate from a stop at the specified TPS specification while the transmission shifts through gears 1-2-3-4-5-6 and decelerate slowly to a stop. Stop for 5 seconds. Repeat 5 times. NOTE: Hold the accelerator pedal steady during the upshifts. CAUTION: Do not exceed legal speed limits.

If additional adaptation is needed, perform the following additional procedures:

8. Perform several sequential downshifts (5-4, 4-3, 3-2 and 2-1) at small to moderate throttle openings.
9. Perform several skip shifts (6-4, 5-3, 5-2, 3-1, etc.) at moderate to large throttle openings.
10. With the vehicle stopped, move the shift lever from P to N to D and back, stopping 3~5 seconds in each gear. Repeat 5 times.

This information comes from the following post on these forums:

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=6578


Not to burst your bubble.......but I've tried all of this...and the car still responds like an old lady asleep at the wheel. The engineer had a go at it too - and guess what - the car isn't " Learning " my driving habits.

Besides - you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a near 50K car to perform like.....drum roll please.....a freakin car :eek:

My hopes rest with the next generation Genesis to make things right
 
NICE!! didn't know this.. wish we could reset from home. Maybe a battery unplug will work. Thanks!

Hyundai does use adaptive learning system...it's TSB 10-AT-011, AUTOMATIC TRANS-AXLE CONTROL MODULE - RESET AND RELEARN ADAPTIVE VALUES. There is a TSB that tells the mechanic how to reset the adaptive values so it can re-learn your driving habits, especially useful if it was a used car purchase. As far as the suspension is concerned the system has no ability to learn.

Here's a snipit from the TSB of what they have to do out on the road:

II. RELEARN ADAPTIVE VALUES:

NOTE: After the adaptive values have been reset (erased), an “adaptive learning” procedure must be completed as shown below.

4. Attach a GDS and select VIN and A/T.
5. Select Current Data and “Throttle Position”.
6. Drive the vehicle until the ATF temperature is within the range shown on Page 5.
7. Request an assistant to monitor the GDS. Accelerate from a stop at the specified TPS specification while the transmission shifts through gears 1-2-3-4-5-6 and decelerate slowly to a stop. Stop for 5 seconds. Repeat 5 times. NOTE: Hold the accelerator pedal steady during the upshifts. CAUTION: Do not exceed legal speed limits.

If additional adaptation is needed, perform the following additional procedures:

8. Perform several sequential downshifts (5-4, 4-3, 3-2 and 2-1) at small to moderate throttle openings.
9. Perform several skip shifts (6-4, 5-3, 5-2, 3-1, etc.) at moderate to large throttle openings.
10. With the vehicle stopped, move the shift lever from P to N to D and back, stopping 3~5 seconds in each gear. Repeat 5 times.

This information comes from the following post on these forums:

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=6578
 
Guess I got a different car. Seems that mine "does learn" my driving style.

If I'm driving it in a spirited manner, it seems to know that and will adjust accordingly, quicker throttle respones, different gear shifting.

When I'm just crusing, it seems to revert back to a "nromal drive mode", no quick acceleration when pressing the throttle, smooth shifts, etc.
 
Not to burst your bubble.......but I've tried all of this...and the car still responds like an old lady asleep at the wheel. The engineer had a go at it too - and guess what - the car isn't " Learning " my driving habits.

Besides - you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a near 50K car to perform like.....drum roll please.....a freaking car :eek:

My hopes rest with the next generation Genesis to make things right

Interesting that your car is like that, mine's only a 3.8L and it will get up and move on demand rather quickly.
 
I actually tried the Hyundai recommended method for setting the shift modes but the one I used was the manual mode 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5, then 5-4, 4-3, 3-2, 2-1, then neutral...did this 5 times. It works! What I learned from the process was that after you have set it you should drive it the way you want it to perform during the shift learning process by manuallly shifting for it to really learn what you want it to do. If you want the trans to hold gears and accelerate faster, then do so. Or if you wish a more smooth shift, albiet slower, then drive it that way. After a few miles of "doing your thing" , then move to "D" and it will infact perform as you drove it....but it won't do agressive when you want it and then smooth when you don't.... it will be set on the aggressive side for everything.

I set mine as aggressive but found it to harsh for casual around town driving so I went back to a smooth shift mode.
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