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K&N Air Filter / AEM Air Filter 3.8/3.3/5.0

Does high performance filters really work ?

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Heys Guys. So Besides the filter being reusable via cleaning and air drying. Does the K&N/AEM air filters provide noticeable more breathing for the engines ? Is it really less restrictive by half vs a stock cotton air filter ? Im assuming it will net to better throttle response? and just maybe a 0.5-1.5 mpg gain , yes ? (More air equals less fuel to burn) Whats your thoughts/ experiences. 3.8L- 3.3T- 5.0L
 
Man, this is a loaded question.:popcorn:

You will receive comments from many members that will claim to notice some performance gains with a performance air filter and just as many members that will claim that the performance air filters does not provide any noticeable gains in performance.

I personally noticed a slight improvement in performance and maybe gas mileage with K&N filters in my 5.0, however I never really did any true data logging to make any factual claims to any real performance gains other than my perception. The same would be for the members that claim no gains as well. Either they did not use performance filters in the Genesis and will post stories/articles/theories from other people that claimed to have used them will no noticeable gains or claimed past experiences of using performance filters in other cars that will be negative, or they will have claimed to use the filters and did not notice any claims based off perception as well with no real data to actually back up their claims as well.

You will come better just buying the performance filters yourself and make your own conclusion if you really are interested in them.
 
Im assuming it will net to better throttle response? and just maybe a 0.5-1.5 mpg gain , yes ? (More air equals less fuel to burn) Whats your thoughts/ experiences. 3.8L- 3.3T- 5.0L
Sorry but more air does not means less fuel to burn. If that were true, then the necessary required fuel-to-air ratio would be screwed up.
 
Sorry but more air does not means less fuel to burn. If that were true, then the necessary required fuel-to-air ratio would be screwed up.
So whats the real BENEFIT of using a high performance air flow filter ? Whats the main benefits of a less restrictive filter vs a paper one
 
So whats the real BENEFIT of using a high performance air flow filter ? Whats the main benefits of a less restrictive filter vs a paper one
The engine has to use part of its HP to pull the required air thru the air filter called a pumping loss of power. With a less restrictive air filter that loss of HP will be less allowing that saved HP to be able to propel the car down the road on somewhat less fuel.
 
The engine has to use part of its HP to pull the required air thru the air filter called a pumping loss of power. With a less restrictive air filter that loss of HP will be less allowing that saved HP to be able to propel the car down the road on somewhat less fuel.
So then it does save fuel to a certain extent then ? We are talking about a 0.5-1 mpg increase , minimal increase as well as improved throttle response slightly too
 
So then it does save fuel to a certain extent then ? We are talking about a 0.5-1 mpg increase , minimal increase as well as improved throttle response slightly too
Yes. But my personal opinion is that the slight savings of fuel is not worth dealing with the messy issue of having to clean and re-oil a K&N air filter that is required on a periodic basis. Been there - done that.
 
Yes. But my personal opinion is that the slight savings of fuel is not worth dealing with the messy issue of having to clean and re-oil a K&N air filter that is required on a periodic basis. Been there - done that.
Theres also a high performance/ less restrictive ‘DRY Air Filter’ by AEM. You dont have to go through the whole re-oiling. I totally agree with you , its something i would not like to do myself when its time. You can risk over oiling the filter potentially and whatnot, but with the dry its literally spray down rinse it off let it air dry. Still be able to reap its slight benefits. Just dont know why most ppl get the less restrictive oil filter over the less restrictive dry Filter.
 
Heys Guys. So Besides the filter being reusable via cleaning and air drying. Does the K&N/AEM air filters provide noticeable more breathing for the engines ? Is it really less restrictive by half vs a stock cotton air filter ? Im assuming it will net to better throttle response? and just maybe a 0.5-1.5 mpg gain , yes ? (More air equals less fuel to burn) Whats your thoughts/ experiences. 3.8L- 3.3T- 5.0L

OBO, I've used their filters for years across all sort of applications in both motorcycles and cars. I have two Jaguar V-8's and a Dodge van that currently use them and here are my observations as well as some technical considerations.

Their filters are made using a custom cotton filtering medium that passes more air than generally available filters made of woven paper or open cell foam. A free flow of air means quicker piston fill. I doubt there is much by way of improved fuel economy but at higher RPM's I'd figure maybe a couple of more horsepower and possibly a bit quicker acceleration. There's a lot of both science and advertising baloney behind all this but here's what I know. Basically they allow the engine to breath much easier

In my car, a Genesis 5.0, the engine needs 17,500 liters of air every minute run at 7,000 RPM's. That's 4,623 gallons every 60 seconds! To be properly filled with the amount of air it needs the intake system has to be capable of supplying at least that amount of air for the entire amount if time that engine is running at 7,000 RPM's even if that is only a fraction of its operating life. Now every 5.0 engine needs those 17.500 liters every combustion cycle regardless of RPM's except that at lower RPM's the system has a bit more time to refill. Got that? O.K.

The choke point in any system is the size/volume of the intake system and it's ability to flow that air as smoothly and quickly as possible and the air filter is one of its more important parts. Next to the size of the actual air box that surrounds the air filter that filter probably plays the next largest part in this dance because no mater how large the air box if the filter won't pass the air fast enough the engine starves for air & fuel as the RPM's climb and along with it the demand for more air faster. This is where the construction of the K&N's comes in as they're designed for maximum air flow while still maintaining the ability to stop the smallest of airborne particles that flow in. They do this two ways. First by using a custom blend of cotton fibers that passes more air than normal paper filters and a very light weight oil to act as a glue for the heavier particles as they try to pass by.

Don't forget that within the intake system there are mass airflow sensors, intake air temperature sensors, atmospheric pressure sensor, and load sensors that all control the air/fuel ratio, the ignition timing, and the pulse rate of the individual injectors along with the variable timing of the valves and camshafts.

Complicated stuff and a far far cry from the very first car I learned to drive on which was a leaning tower of power in a 1960 Plymouth Valiant 4dr. known as a slant six. It had basic points ignition system, a 2 barrel carb, 12 valves,, etc. all managed by an entirely analogue system. I think the only transistor was probably in the AM only radio<G>
 
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Generaly, a more free flowing air filter will provide less filtration, allowing more "dirt" to go through intake system and engine.
I've never run an aftermarket air filter/air box and never will. I use quality air filters (2 on my Genny) and clean it every 5K/replace at 15K miles.
If you are looking to get optimum performance you may be able to improve it with a more free flowing air filter. Engine life/care is more important to me than a few extra HP/Ft-Lbs.
 
Generaly, a more free flowing air filter will provide less filtration, allowing more "dirt" to go through intake system and engine.
I've never run an aftermarket air filter/air box and never will. I use quality air filters (2 on my Genny) and clean it every 5K/replace at 15K miles.
If you are looking to get optimum performance you may be able to improve it with a more free flowing air filter. Engine life/care is more important to me than a few extra HP/Ft-Lbs.
So if K&N and AEM arent good , what do you recommend then ?
 
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Well you do understand that the Genesis dealers probably stock their factory brand.
 
So if K&N and AEM arent good , what do you recommend then ?
As my vehicle is still under 3 year/36K mile maintenance, I have been using OEM filters from dealer. After maintenance expires I'll switch tousing PurolatorONE air filters. I've used these on previous vehicles, including a 2011 Hyundai Genesis 3.8. Note: The left and right air filters are different/not interchangeable. Be sure to get the right air filters/part numbers.

I do service every 5K miles. When cleaning air filter ...
- Remove filter from airbox. This requires removing an engine bay support bar that goes over the air box cover.
- Bang filter on workbench; airflow-in side down. I'm impressed with the amount of fine dirt/sand, bugs and small animals ;) that come out of the filter.
- Use a tooth brush between the air filter media folds.
- Finish up using a shop vac to suck out dirt and blow air through filter.
- Do not use any liquid to clean air filter media.
- Vacuum and wipe down inside of airbox.
 
I would consider WIX as a good brand of aftermarket engine air, oil and cabin air filters. I think they are generally available at O’Rilley auto parts stores.
 
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