K&N air filters for my 2015 Genesis 5.0

[2015genesisNewbie]

Well ,the Mustang is going to win hands down stock or modified.

However, you may inch pass the 750i if he is still stock, if modified then the BMW will win also.

Hell, I could be wrong so I can not wait to read what happens.

I don’t know about hands-down. I see myself going super close with both of them if not head to head. The BMW is stock as far as I know with the exception of aftermarket rims which might be lighter and help in weight reduction but I’m not sure. The Mustang has straight pipes And although stick shift still has launch control

 

[carguy75]

I don’t know about hands-down. I see myself going super close with both of them if not head to head. The BMW is stock as far as I know with the exception of aftermarket rims which might be lighter and help in weight reduction but I’m not sure. The Mustang has straight pipes And although stick shift still has launch control

Damn launch control.

If our car had launch control it would be much faster off the line.

With launch control the 2016 Mustang makes some really fast 1/4 miles times which are about 13 seconds when stock. Our car best posted tested time stock is about 13.6 seconds per Car and Driver when just pressing the gas pedal from a standstill with no torque-braking.

Hence why I will be buying a Sprint Booster that allows the throttle to open in our car faster to quicken the off line acceleration before I go to the track.

The BMW guys love this thing in my area, it seems like it work well.

 

[2015genesisNewbie]

Damn launch control.

If our car had launch control it would be much faster off the line.

With launch control the 2016 Mustang makes some really fast 1/4 miles times which are about 13 seconds when stock. Our car best posted tested time stock is about 13.6 seconds per Car and Driver when just pressing the gas pedal from a standstill with no torque-braking.

Hence why I will be buying a Sprint Booster that allows the throttle to open in our car faster to quicken the off line acceleration before I go to the track.

The BMW guys love this thing in my area, it seems like it work well.

I don’t even know what torque braking is LOL. I look forward to your experience with the sprint booster. Might have to follow suit after you post your results.

 

[carguy75]

I don’t even know what torque braking is LOL. I look forward to your experience with the sprint booster. Might have to follow suit after you post your results.

Torque-braking is when you put the automatic car in drive while holding the brake pedal while at the same time pressing the accelerator until the engine rpms max out, and then you let go of the brake pedal.

It is a stupid way to launch an automatic car faster, but it usually wear down the transmission. Many automatics will let you hold at 3500 rpms for good launch, but it overheats the transmission fluid.

Basically a poor man launch control.

However, even stock launch control systems put more strain on the transmission hence the warning about it use in the owner manuals.

 

[2015genesisNewbie]

Torque-braking is when you put the automatic car in drive while holding the brake pedal while at the same time pressing the accelerator until the engine rpms max out, and then you let go of the brake pedal.

It is a stupid way to launch an automatic car faster, but it usually wear down the transmission. Many automatics will let you hold at 3500 rpms for good launch, but it overheats the transmission fluid.

Basically a poor man launch control.

However, even stock launch control systems put more strain on the transmission hence the warning about it use in the owner manuals.

Got it thanks

 

[2015genesisNewbie]

Got it thanks

I’ll be sure to try that at the dragstrip to see how much of a difference it makes

 

[carguy75]

I’ll be sure to try that at the dragstrip to see how much of a difference it makes

I would not torque-brake the engine because I do not know how well built the Hyundai 8-speed is; you might break something. I would not risk it. Just my opinion.

Either way, I am looking forward to how your car performs.

Keep us posted.

 

[carguy75]

Well, today I finally got the chance to do a 0-60 mph run with my 2015 5.0 Genesis. I used a Bluetooth OBD dongle and Torque app to log 0-60 mph runs based off the GPS. I only had the chance to do one one run today in ECO mode on a quiet road before traffic came. The road has a couple bends so it was not straight, however I ran a 4.7 second time from a stand still. That is fast!!!! I assume that my car will do 0-60mph in about 4.3-4.6 seconds on a straight road in sport mode.

The K&N performance air filters really open up this engine. The stock 0-60 times is 5 seconds per Car and Driver.

Note: My performance Falken 510k summers tire may have helped the acceleration by providing great traction which reduces wheel spin from a hard start. My old Michelin AS+3 tires used to break traction when I used to accelerate from a standstill. Car and Driver used the stock crappy Hankook tires when they achieved 0-60mph in 5 seconds.

The 0-60mph run I did today. 4.7second in ECO mode.The Toque app is not the most accurate I bet, but it gives me more information about my engine performance than my butt dyno.


The Bluetooth OBD doogle

 

[QuantumRift]

Put it on a dyno, then it will be worth reporting.

 

[carguy75]

Put it on a dyno, then it will be worth reporting.

Sure. I will waste my money by renting a dynometer for testing instead of using a very low-cost method of displaying real world performance numbers just to satisfy you. Not going to happen.

This is best you are going to get unless you want to foot the bill.

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[QuantumRift]

I've had a K&N filter in mine since day one when I bought the car new. You buy K&Ns to save money, not for HP gains, esp gains that are barely perceptible. But hey , whatever.

 

[Alfer]

So basically the K&N did nothing a normal human would ever be able to perceive. At least you bought a prettier filter than the stock one.

 

[carguy75]

Hey, if the car was rated by a car magazine to do 0-60mph in 5 seconds using a GPS based acceleration test and my car now does 0-60mph in 4.7seconds per a recent GPS test I would say that the performance air filters work as advertised.

I know the test is not the most accurate, but damn if I would have said my car did 0-60mph in 6 seconds you guys would be like the performance filters is proven not to work. I gave you guys the best example of improved performance that you will most likely get since no matter what I post you will be skeptical of any proven results that favors performance gain.

Hell, every dyno test published on YouTube for many different model of cars show some horsepower gains when a panel K&N filter is used, however some of you guys just keep stating that K&N filters do not work without any proof aside from you negative opinions on the matter.

All the cynics please offer some proof that shows that K&N filters do not increase horsepower in our engines without posting some 10 year article written by some self-proclaimed expert. I want to see dyno results or 0-60 times logged that proves your point.

My opinion is based on actually dyno results of how the filter provide hp gains on various engines and real-world testing on my personal Genesis that proves that my car is quicker than a magazine tested stock Genesis. If you think that I am wrong prove it with counter-facts and actually tests that state otherwise.

 

[Alfer]

Your test was far from legit for sure.

So you felt the .3 difference with K&N vs. your pre-K&N install driving times? My bet is you couldn't. But this is what happens when folks buy into these things. They keep telling themselves the gadget will work wonders so they then convince themselves it does and poo poo anyone who doubts it,

 

[Suburbazine]

4.7 second 0-60?

Sorry, I can positively deny that happening. You'd need AT LEAST 500 bHP at the crank. That's a whole 80 bHP over stock. K&N themselves are only willing to claim a measly 5-10 bHP which is basically immeasurable.

K&N offers *some* gain, but not in peak HP. Most gain will be in minor throttle response improvements due to improved duct pressure in front of the throttle plate.

 

[jimbrown618]

I've had a K&N filter in mine since day one when I bought the car new. You buy K&Ns to save money, not for HP gains, esp gains that are barely perceptible. But hey , whatever.

That's why I bought em also.... to save money

 

[arcman]

Hey, if the car was rated by a car magazine to do 0-60mph in 5 seconds using a GPS based acceleration test and my car now does 0-60mph in 4.7seconds per a recent GPS test I would say that the performance air filters work as advertised.

That's a rather dubious comparison.

If you can't put the car on a dyno, I think the only fair way to compare is to do some back to back 0-60 runs (or 1/8-1/4 mile) with the stock air cleaner and then the K&N.

We did exactly that on the Phoenix mile oval back in the '80's. Running a Ralt SuperVee formula car (that came from the factory with the K&N) we ran the K&N, Uni foam filter, K&N, Uni and each time we gained 200 rpm with the Uni. That was the last time I ever used the K&N.

 

[carguy75]

Hey, I am just going by what I noticed based on what the car is suppose to do in stock form per Car and Driver. I am not going take the air filters out just do back to back comparison testing, since someone would still claim that some part of the test was not done exactly like the other test.

The Torque app stated that my car did 4.7 seconds with the K&N air filters installed. What more can I say. Car and Driver claims a 2015 Genesis 5.0 does 0-60 time in 5.0 seconds. Good enough for me.

Granted, I never tested my car with the stock filters so I do not have an exact 0-60 time logged to actually compare my current run to other than what the car magazine stated a stock Genesis can do.

If anyone else can show proof that the K&N filters do not increase performance and/or a 2015 V8 Genesis can not achieve a 4.7 second 0-60 time post it.

I am reading a lot of negative input without any supporting facts to back it up. I may not have much facts other than a simple test, but what are you guys providing other than negative opinions and skepticism?

Who actually did any dyno testing or GPS measured acceleration tests that proves that my Genesis can not achieve the 4.7 second time I posted or that my K&N air filters did not help achieve that time.

I am open to some actually data that I can compare my limited data against; not only negative statements with no data to back it up. If I am wrong step up and show me how I am wrong with some actual data.

 

[Alfer]

You are again proving my point.

 

[carguy75]

You are again proving my point.

Elaborate?