lane keep assist question

[Starflyer]

Open Pilot sees amazing for the price. Also looks like an easy installation. One thing I might has missed in the video is how to turn it on and off. From what I saw, engaging the Adaptive Cruise Control is the control for turning it on. Is that right? For $1000 bucks, I'm tempted to get one. From what I saw, I assume unplugging it from under the dash wipes it usage totally, reverting to LKAS.

My '18 Genesis G80 LKAS goes into standby at speeds below 40MPH. The Open Pilot seems to steer right down to zero. Wonder if that puts addition wear on the steering gear?

I recently did a 3,500 mile road trip with LKAS in a Toyota and found the drive very much more relaxing and this looks 5 steps better than LKAS in my Genesis.

 

[SuperKing]

You just engage it via your cruise control. Once it's setup, it's easy to use. If you want to disable it, you can hit your LKAS button by your knee. The car will just use standard cruise control but you also don't have the stock LKAS. Running the car with the unit unplugged will just be stock.

I don't think it'll wear the gears any faster. The motor maybe? But everytime you manually turn the wheel, it's the motor doing the bulk of the work anyways. Instead of you telling the motor to do something, it's Openpilot doing it so I don't see how it would wear faster than normal use.

Fair warning though, Openpilot is still very much a developer product. Officially supported cars lke Hondas and Toyotas work great but unofficial cars like the Genesis require tuning if you want it to run smoothly without slight ping pong. It still works but it could be better. Check out the Discord group and feel free to ask questions there. I'm actually flying out of SeaTac tomorrow morning, I made some changes to my tuning numbers and I'm looking forward to trying them out on the drive down there from Vancouver.

 

[TinsleyC]

That OpenPilot is pretty interesting. Current version is "comma two". Their website shows it supports a "2018 Hyundai Genesis", but such car doesn't exist.

Here's a video on it -

Here'a a Wiki on it -

openpilot - Wikipedia

 

[SuperKing]

That OpenPilot is pretty interesting. Current version is "comma two". Their website shows it supports a "2018 Hyundai Genesis", but such car doesn't exist.

Yeah, don't worry about that. It's not an officially supported car so I'm sure the web guy just put it in there without doing research. Hyundai, Kia and Genesis are not officially supported but because it's open source, it's supported by community members right now. Official support is coming and you'll be able to buy an official harness but currently, HKG cars are DIY harnesses.

 

[rae0568]

The LKAS in my 2015 3.8 AWD Ultimate works well. Sometimes it is a little too aggressive. It will steer through a gradual curve, but not a very sharp curve. It has saved me a couple of times at night on long drives when I dozed off a couple of times.

 

[Starflyer]

The LKAS in my 2015 3.8 AWD Ultimate works well. Sometimes it is a little too aggressive. It will steer through a gradual curve, but not a very sharp curve. It has saved me a couple of times at night on long drives when I dozed off a couple of times.

I had Lane Keeping on a Acura RDX, Rav4 and my G80 Sport. I think it's a excellant safety, but I wouldn't bet my life on it. On all 3 vehicles, above 60 mph and certainly above 65, the vehicles tend to drift toward out of the lanes, especially on tighter curves.

 

[EdP]

I had Lane Keeping on a Acura RDX, Rav4 and my G80 Sport. I think it's a excellant safety, but I wouldn't bet my life on it. On all 3 vehicles, above 60 mph and certainly above 65, the vehicles tend to drift toward out of the lanes, especially on tighter curves.

I did some fooling around with it on a road here. Well marked with the lines, gentle curves, little traffic so I could do thing with no danger.

It guided around the curves perfectly with no hands on the wheel but there was one little problem. It put my left tire right on the center line. I could feel the reflectors embedded in the yellow line. That would be fine with no traffic like I had but another Genesis coming in the opposite direction with his tire on the line would not be so good.

If you do drift a bit you get a nudge so there is benefit if you are getting sleepy or distracted. It has limits.

 

[Starflyer]

I did some fooling around with it on a road here. Well marked with the lines, gentle curves, little traffic so I could do thing with no danger.

It guided around the curves perfectly with no hands on the wheel but there was one little problem. It put my left tire right on the center line. I could feel the reflectors embedded in the yellow line. That would be fine with no traffic like I had but another Genesis coming in the opposite direction with his tire on the line would not be so good.

If you do drift a bit you get a nudge so there is benefit if you are getting sleepy or distracted. It has limits.

I would never consider buying a car without LKAS from here on out.

 

[inframan4712]

What happens to the Tesla when they decide to stop supporting it? They already don't want third party mechanics working on their cars. Are you forced to upgrade your car? Are they just going to brick your car? A traditional car will keep running forever if you're willing to maintain it and you can find thousands of people who can work on it. Tesla recently disabled Autopilot for someone even though the dealership that bought the car from Tesla had already paid for the feature.

As for LKAS, I never liked the way it worked. I feel I was ripped off a little because what sold me on the car was the Empty Convoy video posted by Hyundai. I know that system was modified for the video but I expected it to at least keep the car centered and not bounce between the lane lines. That's why I opted to install Openpilot in my car last year. $1000 add on you can install on many makes and models or a $7000 option from Tesla.

Here's a quick comparison video of Autopilot vs Openpilot. Tesla's system is better but they're not that far ahead and I don't think it's worth the $6000 price difference. I view it the same way I viewed my Genesis... is the E class better? Yes... is it so much better that it's worth the price difference? No...

How do you get the cover off that is above the rearview mirror? I am unable to send a private message. Thanks in advance.

 

[skipgen]

I did some fooling around with it on a road here. Well marked with the lines, gentle curves, little traffic so I could do thing with no danger.

It guided around the curves perfectly with no hands on the wheel but there was one little problem. It put my left tire right on the center line. I could feel the reflectors embedded in the yellow line. That would be fine with no traffic like I had but another Genesis coming in the opposite direction with his tire on the line would not be so good.

If you do drift a bit you get a nudge so there is benefit if you are getting sleepy or distracted. It has limits.

I just use it on long road trips on the Interstate to lessen fatigue - I don't trust it for much more than that.

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[Starflyer]

I just use it on long road trips on the Interstate to lessen fatigue - I don't trust it for much more than that.

Trust, but verify...

 

[dfyffe]

Here is my "Ultimate" solution for those who want real LKAS. This is openpilot (@ 7:00 min) controlling gas, brake & steering on the highway and at times on local streets @ 3:17 min, it controls only steering during the other times. This unit is a super enhancement to the stock LKAS.

 

[inframan4712]

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[inframan4712]

Here is my "Ultimate" solution for those who want real LKAS. This is openpilot (@ 7:00 min) controlling gas, brake & steering on the highway and at times on local streets @ 3:17 min, it controls only steering during the other times. This unit is a super enhancement to the stock LKAS.

How do you remove the LKAS cover?