Loading European navigation in the US 2015 Genesis (Ultimate trim)

[piotr]

I have 2015 3.8 Genesis with Ultimate Trim. I bought and owned the car for 3 years in the US but recently moved to Europe and decided to ship the car over here.

I can live with Miles instead of KMs but I thought I could at least load European maps into the navigation. It turns out that it's not so simple. MnSoft which provides maps for North American market does not offer maps for Europe. "HERE" is the provider of maps for the European market but the local dealer told me that I would have to physically replace the AVN unit to be able to load "HERE" maps. That seems so crazy! If anyone, knows of official or unofficial way of how to possibly accomplish this I would be grateful. I have found a company that sells alternative firmware for Hyundai navigation units but the navigation in the Ultimate version (which is based on MeeGo OS) does not appear to be supported.

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone might have.

 

[1FstYota]

It would honestly be easier to just buy a window mount garmin at this point rather than you trying to hack this thing.

 

[Mark_888]

It would honestly be easier to just buy a window mount garmin at this point rather than you trying to hack this thing.

Especially since one can get a decent model for $150 with free lifetime map updates published quarterly. But I would buy the Garmin in Europe.

 

[EdP]

Are you going to Europe and taking the car with you? Only then would it make sense to make a change. I always use a rental and take a Garmin with me. You can buy one cheaper than the maps for the Genesis and it will come with lifetime updates.

 

[Mark_888]

Are you going to Europe and taking the car with you? Only then would it make sense to make a change. I always use a rental and take a Garmin with me. You can buy one cheaper than the maps for the Genesis and it will come with lifetime updates.

Here is a quote from OP:

"recently moved to Europe and decided to ship the car over here."​

 

[dougmcp]

I believe Hyundai uses the HERE maps in North America as well. Contact your Hyundai dealer in Europe wherever you are and see if they can download the maps on your system.
I'm pretty sure it's relatively simple. Try this link for more info on Hyundai Euro Navigation: https://www.hyundai.news/eu/brand/know-where-to-go-hyundai-offers-free-lifetime-mapcaretm/

 

[1FstYota]

I believe Hyundai uses the HERE maps in North America as well. Contact your Hyundai dealer in Europe wherever you are and see if they can download the maps on your system.
I'm pretty sure it's relatively simple. Try this link for more info on Hyundai Euro Navigation: https://www.hyundai.news/eu/brand/know-where-to-go-hyundai-offers-free-lifetime-mapcaretm/

They get free maps in the EU grr..

 

[piotr]

I believe Hyundai uses the HERE maps in North America as well. Contact your Hyundai dealer in Europe wherever you are and see if they can download the maps on your system.
I'm pretty sure it's relatively simple. Try this link for more info on Hyundai Euro Navigation: https://www.hyundai.news/eu/brand/know-where-to-go-hyundai-offers-free-lifetime-mapcaretm/

You would think it would be simple. As I mentioned in my post I already contacted a dealer (actually several dealers) and they say that they can not load European maps without physically replacing the AVN unit.

 

[EdP]

The television signal is different in Europe so there may be other differences in the electronics used there. Seems to be more to it than just an SD card with different maps. I did find this:
FM broadcasts North American FM broadcast channels are on the odd 200KHz frequencies: 99.5MHz, 100.1MHz, etc. In Europe, channels can be on any multiple of 100KHz, even or odd. This means that a digital tuner from the USA will not tune European stations properly, resulting in distortion. Some tuner models are switchable between the two schemes, but these are rare. Frequency synthesizing tuners in Europe do their actual tuning in shorter steps (for example 25 kHz). With analogue tuners you have no such problem because they aren't stepped anyway. Be aware that FM stations in Europe use a different pre-emphasis than those in North America, 75 and 50 microseconds respectively. AM broadcasts Same for AM, the difference is 10 kHz steps in the US vs. 9 kHz steps in Europe.

Read more at: http://www.epanorama.net/documents/radio/radio_differences.html

 

[MrBenny]

Welcome to Europe!

The nav systems over here are different to the USA models. As noted above, radio frequencies work in a different way so reception of radio stations might always be a problem.

I imagine that it would be possible to substitute the maps for the European versions. Have you ever examined the contents of the SD card by inserting it into a PC?

My Genesis had a failed sat nav update, but the technical guy from head office found out which files to modify in order to reinstall and make the update work.

If you're going to try hacking the european maps, I would suggest taking a copy of the SD card before attempting the experiment.

You can only update if you use the original SD card.

Best of luck and let us know how you get on!

Ben

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[piotr]

The television signal is different in Europe so there may be other differences in the electronics used there. Seems to be more to it than just an SD card with different maps. I did find this:
FM broadcasts North American FM broadcast channels are on the odd 200KHz frequencies: 99.5MHz, 100.1MHz, etc. In Europe, channels can be on any multiple of 100KHz, even or odd. This means that a digital tuner from the USA will not tune European stations properly, resulting in distortion. Some tuner models are switchable between the two schemes, but these are rare. Frequency synthesizing tuners in Europe do their actual tuning in shorter steps (for example 25 kHz). With analogue tuners you have no such problem because they aren't stepped anyway. Be aware that FM stations in Europe use a different pre-emphasis than those in North America, 75 and 50 microseconds respectively. AM broadcasts Same for AM, the difference is 10 kHz steps in the US vs. 9 kHz steps in Europe.

Read more at: http://www.epanorama.net/documents/radio/radio_differences.html

Thank you for the note. FM radio is NOT a problem. Radio can be switched to work with European standard. Only navigation seems to be a problem.