Looking at buying a 2011 4.6 sedan

[hyadvice]

I am really excited. I've been car shopping for a while and think I found what I want. It's a 2011 genesis with the 4.6 V8 (57k miles). I've read this car is pretty reliable and I plan on daily driving it. What do I need to know before pulling the trigger though? I'm currently driving a 2006 sonata GLS with 208k miles so I trust the brand entirely but this seems like a first generation car and they are notorious for having problems regardless of the brand.


Options

• Alloy Wheels
• Backup Camera
• Backup Sensor
• Bluetooth
• Heated Leather Seats
• Memory Seat(s)
• Navigation System
• Passenger Climate Control
• Sunroof/Moonroof
• Active Seatbelts
• Air Conditioning
• Alarm
• All Wheel ABS
• AM/FM CD/DVD
• AM/FM CD/MP3
• Daytime Running Lights
• Dual Front Airbags
• Head Airbags
• Keyless Entry
• Power Locks
• Power Steering
• Power Sun/Moon Roof
• Power Windows
• Rear Head Airbags
• Satellite
• Sentry Key
• Side Airbags
• Tilt Wheel

My main concern is this transmission. I've read that it's not the greatest and can give you problems when you start to get close to 100k. Dealer offers a 40k miles warranty but idk if it's needed. I'm buying from a used car lot but getting a PPI done by a local hyundai dealer and a friend of mine who is a mechanic just because I get paranoid. My next concern is the color and repainting it. This car has some big paint chips that were "fixed" and look like this person colored them in with a crayon. The front bumper is really bad. I want to get the whole bumper resprayed but worried about it matching since it's the white satin pearl. Does anyone have any experience with this or repairs from an accident? I also read that the push to start might not work because of a brake pedal sensor. I'm just looking for some advice and what to expect. I'm fine with repairing a car but knowing what is common and things to do to avoid it. I also plan on driving this thing as long as possible so any of you guys reach the 200k mark?

V6 or V8?
What year is best?
What years should I avoid?
Any high mileage owners out there?
Any input at all i'm listening.

 

[Audio]

V6 or V8? V8 without a doubt! lol
What year is best? 2011+ should be perfectly fine if you're looking specifically at a first gen.
What years should I avoid? 2009-early 2010 V8's had valve springs prone to breaking. Avoid those like the plague.
Any high mileage owners out there? I've seen plenty of 100k+ and a few well well beyond that posting here.
Any input at all i'm listening. I personally haven't had any transmission issues with my 2009(now sporting a 2011 engine), but you're right that seems to be the only MAJOR part people have concern with. Also, some components of the Lexicon stereo can be finicky. My CD/DVD drive does not work, but every other aspect of the stereo does so who knows if that will ever even be an issue.

 

[hyadvice]

V6 or V8? V8 without a doubt! lol
What year is best? 2011+ should be perfectly fine if you're looking specifically at a first gen.
What years should I avoid? 2009-early 2010 V8's had valve springs prone to breaking. Avoid those like the plague.
Any high mileage owners out there? I've seen plenty of 100k+ and a few well well beyond that posting here.
Any input at all i'm listening. I personally haven't had any transmission issues with my 2009(now sporting a 2011 engine), but you're right that seems to be the only MAJOR part people have concern with. Also, some components of the Lexicon stereo can be finicky. My CD/DVD drive does not work, but every other aspect of the stereo does so who knows if that will ever even be an issue.

Can i ask why you have a new engine?

 

[Audio]

Because I drive a 2009 4.6L that had the valve spring problem. Spring snapped, valve dropped into the cylinder, tore up the cylinder wall. Now, with the 2011 engine, I shouldn't be running into that issue again.

 

[hyadvice]

Because I drive a 2009 4.6L that had the valve spring problem. Spring snapped, valve dropped into the cylinder, tore up the cylinder wall. Now, with the 2011 engine, I shouldn't be running into that issue again.

Rough, but good to know

 

[AgentSmith007]

Definitely V8!
Also, 2011 4.6 V8 was the last model year with engine that is not GDI, so you won't have carbon deposits problem.

 

[beachbaker]

The 2012 year was the last of the 4.6.

 

[AgentSmith007]

The 2012 year was the last of the 4.6.

You are right, first half of 2012. I forgot about that.

 

[beachbaker]

I have a 2012 4.6 with a build date of 10/05/2011 which I bought on February 8th of 2012. The current mileage is 48,756 and to date have had only a couple of minor issues. Within the first 6 months I had the known issues of the no radio and the surround sound not staying on. I took it to the dealer and they did a reset of the system and have not had any further problems with it. The other issue was the back up camera not working but after heating it up it has not recurred for the last couple of years. I like the upgraded lights and exhaust tips look of the last years of the 1st generation.

 

[Aiken Yankee]

I have a 2011 4.6 V8 that I bought new off a dealer's showroom in 2013. The only issues I have had is that the throttle plate mechanism malfunctioned, and had to be replaced (covered by warranty!) and the rear disc brake rotors somehow got warped, and had to be trued up. Other than that I have had NO problems in 48,000 miles. Once about every 6 months, the radio cuts out for a couple of hours, but other than that absolutely no problems. Love the car, and plan to hold on to it for at least 10 years!

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[Ihithard]

Also, to the OP, 2011 V8 has every option standard V6 does not.

 

[waveman]

I bought a 2011 V8 back in late 2010. It had around 76k miles on it when I got my G90 and gave it to my wife, who loves it. The only issue is the driver's door locking mechanism has malfunctioned so that the key fob sometimes doesn't unlock it.

 

[Gunkk]

I'll give you the same advice is the fellow in this thread:
Looking to purchase a 2010 Genesis 4.6

Take the VIN# of the car you want to your local Hyundai dealer and have them pull a detailed service history report for you. Talk to the service writer about it. You'll learn a lot about both the car and the dealer's service department. Your experience doing this will tell you a lot about the future cost of ownership of the car and you future happiness with the dealer.

Repairs on these cars are expensive due to single source parts and most of the big jobs can only be done by the dealer.

So if you can get an extended warranty backed by HMA or the Hyundai dealer, do it.

 

[Audio]

Repairs on these cars are expensive due to single source parts and most of the big jobs can only be done by the dealer.

Could ya stop saying that? That's not true. Not even kind of true. An entire engine cost me $2600 shipped to my door and wheeled directly into my garage.
Every single common part is also a pretty common price, MAYBE a bit more than your standard 1998 Corola or Civic. Alternator, starter, battery, etc. Even struts aren't insanely expensive in this "luxury car".

As for "most of the big jobs can only be done by the dealer", I very very much disagree. There are not major specialty tools or special processes with anything on these cars. There are indy shops that specialize in Audi's, MB's, BMW's etc and plenty of non-specialty indy shops that work on them regularly and I'll say right now the Genesis is FAR easier to work on with FAR cheaper parts and FAR less specialty tools needed for anything.

I think people just want to fool themselves into "well it's not JUST a Hyundai" by making things up like they're harder to work on or parts are crazy expensive. Neither of those things is true at all. Accept that Hyundai is still the brand and they didn't do anything special when building your knock off E class lol.

 

[blktiger12]

I added this post as I mentioned in a thread for a guy looking at a 2010 4.6L however this applies directly here as well....

As a 2011 4.6L owner I can tell you that my experience has been nothing but fantastic. The drivetrain is flawless and the power (low end torque) still brings a smile to my face.
As an ex footballer I actually prefer the entry / exit of the 1st Gen vs the 2nd Gen.
My backup camera acts tired in high heat/humidity and the parking sensors may have some mice gremlins but this car is the BEST car Ive owned and Im a 20 year Lexus and BMW club member owning several of each in the past ten years.

I would highly recommend a 2011 4.6 .... Im not familiar with pre-2011 so I wont speak to them.

Good luck

 

[AgentSmith007]

As a 2011 4.6L owner I can tell you that my experience has been nothing but fantastic. The drivetrain is flawless and the power (low end torque) still brings a smile to my face.

I can second that.

 

[Gunkk]

Could ya stop saying that? That's not true. Not even kind of true.

Yes I'm sure you have the skills, tools and the time to self-install a copart engine. Most of us day job daily driver working stiffs do not.

Tell me how I can replace the HECU with a new HMA unit including the brake system flush for under $2500.

Head unit under $3k?

Cruise Radar module under $2k?

Transmission under $5k?

This is with new parts, not copart or "ebay specials".... just curious.

All of these items are common failing items on our cars in the 60k+ milage range. Engines, ironically, are not.

 

[Audio]

Do you want links to parts and a tutorial on how to do the work? Or do you want me to search your local area for independent shops that charge less than dealerships? I'm not going out of my way to do either of those things, but my point has been made. You DO NOT need to pay full price at the dealership for either parts or labor. To assume you do is just losing you money.

As for the time to replace the engine myself, I too am a "working stiff" that gets up every day M-F and drives my happy ass to the office for 40 hours a week. I used my weekends and time after work to do it. I'm not at all saying everyone can do all their own work, but to say there is anything special forcing people to only go to the dealership is absolutely not the case. There are plenty of independent shops that are cheaper, more reputable, and just as good or better than dealerships.

 

[Audio]

Also, wasn't the ABS module issue a safety recall? Safety recalls are not allowed to expire so it shouldn't cost anyone anything, if I'm remembering this correctly.

 

[Gunkk]

My 09 failed before they issued the recall.

My 2012 VIN wasn't part of the recall. It still failed.