Michelin Energy Saver A/S road noise

[stroker]

I am the proud owner of a 2012 Genesis 4.6. The car came equipped with Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires. I immediately noticed an obvious drone coming from appears to be the left front of the car. My dealer promptly replaced the wheel bearing.(at least I was told this). I noticed no difference. The sound is still there. I am returning to the dealer tomorrow and will request a tire change. On the tire rack website I saw an identical input to mine, same tires same car. The person stated that his dealer was about to do a tire swap, but I did not read any updated posting. I am interested in knowing if anyone here has had this similar issues, and what if any solution was reached. This is truly a great car with this small exception. I failed to mention that I test drove a 2012 3.8 prior to the 4.6 and did not detect a noise of any sort. Thanks for any response.

 

[rickh]

I noticed the same thing when I bought my new 2012 Genesis 4.6. I bought the car at an out-of-state dealer and had a 600 mile drive home. The tire noise was so bad that, by the time I got home, I wanted to "undo" the sale. But I found that it couldn't be "undone" because it was financed.

Fast forward nearly 3 months to today, and I'm now quiet happy with the car. It has 3,200 miles on it, and the tires seem much quieter. I don't know if that's because I've just gotten used the noise, or if they've really become quieter. It's hard to believe that I ever could have gotten used to that drone, but who knows. All I know is that the car seems relatively quiet now. I can definitely still hear the tires, but it doesn't seem nearly as loud as when it was new. In order to improve the ride, I reduced the tire pressure to 29 psi. It rides much nicer now, and I cannot perceive any difference in handling. My mileage has decreased by about 2 mpg, but it's worth it to me for the softer ride. I assume that this lower inflation will probably also decrease the life of the tires but, again, that's a price I'll pay. Perhaps the softer tires are also responsible for the seemingly quieter ride too. I don't know . . .

 

[Rey]

What is interesting to me is Hyundai seems to be Dunlop as OEM supplier. I have Conti's on my R-Spec. Now with Michelin low energy tires on a 4.6 wonder if this is a new trend?

 

[nextcar]

it's all very confusing.
there are so many complaints about the Dunlops, but at 7000 miles, my dunlops are very quiet.
now i hear complaints about the Michelin tires that became standard in 2012.

 

[Mark_888]

it's all very confusing.
there are so many complaints about the Dunlops, but at 7000 miles, my dunlops are very quiet.
now i hear complaints about the Michelin tires that became standard in 2012.

I never had any noise on my Dunlops. But they went bad at about 20K miles because of very uneven tread wear on front left tire. The steering problems of early Genesis sedens (tended to pull left) probably contributed to that.

Howerver the biggest complaint (or difference noted after switching tires) is the firmness of the Dunlops compared to some of the premium touring tires known to have softer rides. This was especially true for early Genesis sedans with very high/stiff spring rates (softened in 2010 and 2012).

Generally, Michelins are realitively smooth riding tires, but keep in mind that even the Michelin Energy Saver tires give up some comfort for better MPG (energy savings). The reason why Hyundai choose the Michelin Energy Savers (and Dunlops) is that MPG is very important in marketing and EPA fleet compliance (CAFE), and every little bit helps.

 

[rickh]

I need to offer an update to my post on 12/4/11 where I stated that my Michelin Energy Saver tires had become quieter now that I've got over 3,000 miles on them. I went for a 200 mile trip on the interstate highway last weekend and realized that those tires are as noisy as ever at interstate speeds. The level of noise varies significantly depending upon the smoothness of the road surface. I realize that statement applies to any tire, but for some reason the difference seems to be exaggerated on the Michelin Energy Savers. Roads with a courser surface result in extreme tire noise, while the tires magically become very quiet on roads with smooth surfaces. I was amazed at the difference when the surface of one stretch of interstate road suddenly changed from course to smooth. There was sudden silence. All I could hear was a very slight wind noise - something that had previously been drowned out by the tire noise on the coarser road surface.

So the noise problem hasn't really abated any, but I've got no complaints about the ride comfort. I stated in my last post that I was running the tire pressure at 29 psi, but a recent cold temperature check showed the pressure in all 4 tires to be only 27.5. Nice ride and still no noticeable impact on handling. I know this lower pressure is costing me a couple of mpg on gas mileage, and I assume that it will probably shorten the life of the tires. But that's okay - it will allow me to buy a quieter set of tires that much sooner .

 

[Les]

I tested six 2012 Genesis before purchasing my 2012 Titanium Gray V6. I tested one R-Spec, one 4.8 V8 and four V6. All but the R-Spec had Michelin Energy A/S tires. The V8 and one V6 had bad tire noise at interstate speed. The others and mine Genesis are quiet. I'm glade this noise was found during testing. Please anyone buying this car with these tires test it on the interstate before purchasing. My tires was manufactured the 9th week of 2011. I love the Genesis.

 

[Stoofpilot]

I have Michelin AS + on my SL 500 and they perform as stated above. Quiet on smooth asphalt but load on all other material including concrete.

Looking for a quiet tire to put on my wife's Genesis.

Suggestion?

 

[Mark_888]

I have Michelin AS + on my SL 500 and they perform as stated above. Quiet on smooth asphalt but load on all other material including concrete.

Looking for a quiet tire to put on my wife's Genesis.

Suggestion?

• Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (Grand Touring All-Season)
• Michelin Primacy MXV4 (not MXM4, and not Michelin Energy MXV4) - Note: This tire may only be available for Genesis 17" wheels
• Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring

 

[nextcar]

I have Michelin AS + on my SL 500 and they perform as stated above. Quiet on smooth asphalt but load on all other material including concrete.

Looking for a quiet tire to put on my wife's Genesis.

Suggestion?

in addition to bridgestone turanza serenity, consumer reports rates these tires as being quiet:

Kumho Solus KH16
yokohama avid envigor
pirelli p zero nero all season

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[homeofstone]

• Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (Grand Touring All-Season)
• Michelin Primacy MXV4 (not MXM4, and not Michelin Energy MXV4) - Note: This tire may only be available for Genesis 17" wheels
• Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring

I agree 100% with this list.

 

[rrpurdy]

I have a Genesis 2010 3.8 sedan and have the same problem. Ruined one set of tires, had Michelin mxm4 pilots put on and drone noise (speed dependent) continued on front left. Wheel bearings replaced but noise continues. Tires balanced and suspension alignment also made no difference. Dealer appears stumped, hopefully will call Hyundai.

 

[Traceman]

I just bought my 2012 3.8 Sedan used with 18k on the Dunlop Sport 5000 tires. Its uncanny to view the forum and find several other owners with the same noise in the left front tire... there may be some road noise on other tires, but, the left front is the focal point. I'm wondering if tire rotation would help at all?
The tire guy in my town Lakeland, FL suggested just "run them down" and then put some new Falkens on. Is there a possibility its the wheel hub going? The tire guys - think NO here.

 

[radicaltimes]

I just rotated my tires and the left front is noisy. But it is the one tire. If I move it to the passenger side rear I can not hear it.

 

[PMCErnie]

I just bought my 2012 3.8 Sedan used with 18k on the Dunlop Sport 5000 tires. Its uncanny to view the forum and find several other owners with the same noise in the left front tire... there may be some road noise on other tires, but, the left front is the focal point. I'm wondering if tire rotation would help at all?
The tire guy in my town Lakeland, FL suggested just "run them down" and then put some new Falkens on. Is there a possibility its the wheel hub going? The tire guys - think NO here.

The driver's seat is closest to...the left front tire.

 

[dinodiesel]

I was so happy when as it turned out, my White/Cashmere 5.0 was delivered with Michelin A/S Energy. I think they are quiet, reasonably comfortable, adequate handling, and good treadwear anticipated. In my experience with a different car, P-Zero Rosso were excellent but not A/S and short lived, Conti Extreme Contact very poor with 2 of 6 tires exhibiting vibration. Conti DWS were a bit better but did not own them long enough to comment on longevity.

 

[brfatal]

^ You would be surprised. Energy are actually terrible tires. Compared to their identical looking Primacy non-Energy versions, they have half the tread longevity, less grip, and much higher cost. Energy Savers are generally manufacturer installed tires that are intended to boost gas mileage ratings by a mpg or so as they are solely intended as low rolling resistance tires.

 

[Vince2]

Does a low resistance tire have a harder, less forgiving compound than a high performance tire? I assumed Hyundai uses the Michelin Energy to increase the ride comfort/noise level of the Genesis. The Genesis ride is probably the most cited complaint (justified, unjustified or just subjective) of our great car (I imagine buggy electronics and less than good seats are the other top complaints). The Genesis suspension has seen repeated modifications due, I think, to the complaints Hyundai witnessed. I've had two Genesis. The 2010 3.8 and the 2012 3.8. The ride of the latter is much more to my liking with both a smoother over flat rode ride and a less aggressive response to the odd expansion joint, speed bump or rough patch. If you take a look tirerack.com and use their tire decision guide, the tire considered a perfect, most appropriate match for the 3.8, if your 1st priority is comfortable ride, is the Michelin Energy.

 

[Retry]

I did something yesterday that I thought I'd never do; I had my Michelin Energy A/S tires trued. I've got just over 36000 miles on these tires and all four had developed uneven treadwear along the outside tread. For the last 10000 miles they have roared on any and all types of road surfaces. I've been rotating them every 5000 miles and have had one four-wheel alignment. My tread still had over 50% left and I went to the tire shop for a routine Hunter balance. They suggested trueing all four tires to smooth out the uneven scalloped tread. The tech had to do some talking to convince me and since they have a stellar reputation, I gave in and now I'm glad I did. I don't remember these tires being this quiet even when they were new plus they're silky smooth. I'll admit it was a little unsettling watching the rubber being shaved off but for under a $100 I'm thinking it was money well spent. I'm not advocating anyone else do this, but just sharing my experience.

 

[veed]

i've never heard of such a thing. assume this is a spin-move (like a lathe) type of thing? how much do you estimate they took off?

mr. doesn't get out much