MPG dilemma....

[Starflyer]

I get about 10% more fuel economy with 93 than with 87 in my car (both <=10% ethanol). However, it's not worth the ~$1/gal price difference (+30%) so I don't bother with 93.

Many local sources for 90 octane @0% ethanol locally for $4+/gal. Also not worth it.

A DOLLAR A GALLON MORE!!! I'm in the Seattle area where almost all the gas station prices are 30 cents more for 93 and 20 cents more for 91. So a 15 gallon fillup is $3 more for 91 and $4.50 for 93. Comparable to getting a Starbucks cup of coffee maybe every 2 weeks. Is the $1 a gallon hit for full service stations where you stay in the car and an attendent pumps your gas?

I was driving through Oregon where the state thinks you're too dumb to pump your own gas. The attendent didn't go "click-click" when he put the gas cap back on. About 200 miles down the road, I get the "check engine" light. Next morning I filled the tank up in a state that lets you pump your own gas and about another 200 miles down the road, the "check engine" light went out. This was on a '16 Acura that gives about 3 clicks when fill-up the cap. My new Genesis G80 only gets about 1 click for the same maneuver

On GasBuddy I pulled up the prices for Miami and it appears there, 93 averages close to 60 cents more or double the hit for the Seattle area.

 

[carguy75]

My wife and I own a home in Florida. We do the snowbird "thing" to rest and relax. Now granted, my wife's concept of "snowbird" is to go to Florida in the teeth of summer, but she explains that we, being a members of an aging populace, need to consider the length of days so we are not driving in the evening (all the while I'm thinking about the 99% humidity and how much the heat will make our visit slightly uncomfortable) since our eyesight presents challenges once the sun sets. Okay fine love!

But, as we are cruising I-65 north on our return trip to Indy I have the cruise control locked at 75 mph and averaging 27.8 mpg. Not bad I think to myself. We stop for a fill up and change of driver and my wife averages 30.4 mpg the rest of the trip. She doesn't use cruise control because as she states, "I want control" of the speed, even though she is always surprised by how well the smart cruise control works when I'm using it. All the while she's cruising at a pretty good clip herself.

Now the explanation is probably obvious and I really don't want to hear it but, it does drive me crazy that she can do that and I'm unable (and maybe unwilling?) or maybe incapable of accomplishing this masterful management of fuel consumption.

Perplexed in Indy!

Just a guess, but your wife may take the foot off the gas pedal to coast downhill while the CC uses more pedal inputs and brakes to maintain a constant speed of 75 mph. Cruise control is good for obtaining great mpg on long trips, but it is not the best way. However, it is the most convenient way and make long trips easier to endure in my opinion.

 

[EdP]

I was driving through Oregon where the state thinks you're too dumb to pump your own gas. The attendent didn't go "click-click" when he put the gas cap back on. About 200 miles down the road, I get the "check engine" light.

Why do you want to pump your own gas? Especially when the wind is blowing on a day the temperature is single digits. It allegedly saves money, but that is a scam. I go to MA frequently and in each town the fire marshal decides if it is safe to pump your own. The price is the same so I let the old guy pump mine. I tip him a buck or two and we're both happy.

Only once, in NJ many years ago the cap was not tightened.

 

[QuantumRift]

Yea I hear that. The only thing it might do better for $1 more a gallong (besides a boost in hp and clearing out your wallet) is clean the injectors better (top tier fuel with good additives) for the price...

It's like a flexfuel car - E85 gives you, what about 25% less performance than E10. So unless the price of E85 is at least 25% less than the cost of regular E10, it's not worth it.

The local Sunoco station now sells 5 gallon cans of E15 104 octane race fuel. I think its at pump as well. I don't know how much the sell, as they have several different types of race fuel in cans...but I think the cheapest is like 6 or 7 bucks a gallon..

Sunoco Race Fuels

I get about 10% more fuel economy with 93 than with 87 in my car (both <=10% ethanol). However, it's not worth the ~$1/gal price difference (+30%) so I don't bother with 93.

Many local sources for 90 octane @0% ethanol locally for $4+/gal. Also not worth it.

 

[Starflyer]

Why do you want to pump your own gas? Especially when the wind is blowing on a day the temperature is single digits. It allegedly saves money, but that is a scam. I go to MA frequently and in each town the fire marshal decides if it is safe to pump your own. The price is the same so I let the old guy pump mine. I tip him a buck or two and we're both happy.

Only once, in NJ many years ago the cap was not tightened.

Actually I have nothing against some guy pumping my gas as long as the cap is fastened correctly. I call this belief about not messing around with someone else's "rice bowl". Not my kind of job, but it if it helps someone, I'm fine with it.

 

[BlancaGenny]

Why do you want to pump your own gas? Especially when the wind is blowing on a day the temperature is single digits. It allegedly saves money, but that is a scam. I go to MA frequently and in each town the fire marshal decides if it is safe to pump your own. The price is the same so I let the old guy pump mine. I tip him a buck or two and we're both happy.

Only once, in NJ many years ago the cap was not tightened.

Actually I have nothing against some guy pumping my gas as long as the cap is fastened correctly. I call this belief about not messing around with someone else's "rice bowl". Not my kind of job, but it if it helps someone, I'm fine with it.

Never in a million years would I let someone pump my gas.... You know that little drip drop after it clicks off? Yeah.. and it dribbles down your car by the gas cap? The pain I feel when I see people do that cannot be measured.

I'm being dramatic. But, no one will put gas in my car. Below is why

 

[Starflyer]

Never in a million years would I let someone pump my gas.... You know that little drip drop after it clicks off? Yeah.. and it dribbles down your car by the gas cap? The pain I feel when I see people do that cannot be measured.

I'm being dramatic. But, no one will put gas in my car. Below is why
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What the hell happened here? Filling the tank with acid? You don't get a choice in attendent only states although I guess you can give the fuel cap your own twist. I've been chased away when I'm passing through one of these no-fill your own states and forget about the no-no. And like I said, not a good idea to be messing in someone else's rice bowl. How would you like it if someone messed with your job?

 

[BlancaGenny]

What the hell happened here? Filling the tank with acid? You don't get a choice in attendent only states although I guess you can give the fuel cap your own twist. I've been chased away when I'm passing through one of these no-fill your own states and forget about the no-no. And like I said, not a good idea to be messing in someone else's rice bowl. How would you like it if someone messed with your job?

This is not my car, some Googling is the thing nowadays. I always see cars that have this around there filler cap. No judgement on them but I like taking care of my car, as I'm sure you and the rest of the forum members do.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

What the hell happened here? Filling the tank with acid? You don't get a choice in attendent only states although I guess you can give the fuel cap your own twist. I've been chased away when I'm passing through one of these no-fill your own states and forget about the no-no. And like I said, not a good idea to be messing in someone else's rice bowl. How would you like it if someone messed with your job?

i think the only attendant only state left is NJ.

 

[EdP]

i think the only attendant only state left is NJ.

MA varies from town to town but majority are self serve.

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[Starflyer]

i think the only attendant only state left is NJ.

In the United States, gas jockeys were often tipped for their services,[1] but this is now rare as full-service stations are uncommon except in the states New Jersey and Oregon (counties with more than 40,000 residents), and the town of Huntington, New York, where retail customers are prohibited by law from pumping their own gasoline (self-serve gas stations are banned).

 

[Starflyer]

i think the only attendant only state left is NJ.

And Oregon.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

And Oregon.

I thought OR recently passed a law allowing one to pump their own fuel.

being disabled stations are required to pump my fuel unless there is only one attendant working, and guess how many times I've come across more than one attendant working at a SoCal gas station in the past several years I've been sporting a disabled placard.

 

[Starflyer]

I thought OR recently passed a law allowing one to pump their own fuel.

being disabled stations are required to pump my fuel unless there is only one attendant working, and guess how many times I've come across more than one attendant working at a SoCal gas station in the past several years I've been sporting a disabled placard.

The new law in Oregon...

Under House Bill 2482, which took effect Monday, retailers in counties with a population of less than 40,000 are allowed to have self-service gas pumps. Drivers in 15 counties can now pump their own gas any time of day, while those in three other rural counties can do so after business hours, between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.

So, at least in Portland and any county with more than 40,000 people, keep your hand off the gas pump.