Need some real help

[Yoda_guy]

Hello all. I'm new here. I've been really strongly considering a Genesis as I'm about due for a new car and I'd like to get out of a truck. I've been reading about as much as I can on here as well as other places. I'm pretty set on a 13 or 14 rspec 5.0 but I'd really like some info from people that have put real miles on theirs. I have a very large amount of experience with the entire Kia line with the exception of the k900. I've noticed that there is a great wealth of information here but also some poor information. Most of all I'm interested in how the power train has aged. Thanks in advance.

 

[Yoda_guy]

Well shit. I was hoping for some real experience with the product but I don't see that happening. Why won't GM just give me what I really want? I don't see how a Genesis priced vehicle with Genesis type options and a ls3 plus an 8 speed could not be successful if competition was similarly priced. I considered and still consider this vehicle seriously but I have very real reservations.

 

[Gunkk]

Interesting that you say this. I drove a '17 impala not long ago on a few-hundred mile business trip and was quite impressed with the car. Quick, comfortable, smooth ride and enough power to handle 60-80mph passing on the highway without much effort. Solid as a rock and nearly as quiet as my '12 Genesis. And the infotainment/integration w/ Android Auto is fantastic. $39k completely loaded... add +$2-3k for a comparable warranty out to 6/60.

And... as it turns out, I just bought a GM car. But not the impala. I'm keeping the Genesis as a daily driver.

This is my new toy:


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Most of all I'm interested in how the power train has aged.

60k miles on my '12 and it's brilliant. Just do like I did (and recommend) and get an extended Hyundai Protection Plan warranty. $3k for the Platinum got me out to 12yrs 120k miles factory bumper to bumper including the infotainment head unit and radar cruise module (both $3k fixes). Take the VIN of the car you want to a dealer service department and get the full service history and ask the finance mgr if they'll write out an extended HPP warranty. If they won't then don't buy the car.

 

[Yoda_guy]

Thanks alot for the input. And I really dig the car. I've been a f body fan for years. I had a gen 3 and a gen 4. I almost got a gen 5 when they came out but couldn't get over how heavy they were. The latest ones seam to be the ticket though. Can't wait until a gen 6 z28 comes.

 

[OUsig]

I have now 84000 on my 2013 rspec and it is great. Drives solid as a rock, no issues, no oil burn, simply hauls ass when I want too and cruises when I want to. Would never make a move to any GM sedan unless it said CTS-V

 

[Yoda_guy]

Thanks for the input ousig. I'm glad that the car has been so solid for you. I had serious reservations based on my Kia experience and all this sillyness with the theta engine. I also some some pretty dumb things go south on the borrego V8 which I believe is also a version of the Tau. With That being said I still feel as though if I do get one it'll have to be a certified used car due to expenses and complexity of of power train. I guess that's a huge benefit on the gm way of doing things that nobody really wants to talk about.

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On a side note, how do you feel the fux limited slip handles poor traction scenarios? I was always disappointed that Toyota went that route on the tundra but tundras being what they are it didn't make a huge impact in everyday normal operation.

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On a side note, how do you feel the fux limited slip handles poor traction scenarios? I was always disappointed that Toyota went that route on the tundra but tundras being what they are it didn't make a huge impact in everyday normal operation.

 

[OUsig]

Nothing wrong with GM - specifically the truck platform and their high end sedans/sports cars. They have a bunch of crap in the middle (think rental cars). We also have a 2007 Tahoe that had its issues at first but has been rock solid for the last 8 years. Yes it is slow by new large SUV standards but I trust that 5.3 engine to go across country and back no problem.

I am pretty sure the 5.0 TAU is about as brand new as you can get in 2009 then updated/larger in 2012 - not sure about any carry over from a former KIA motor. After 84k miles, the 5.0 motor is smooth as silk at idle and any speed. I do suck up a can of seafoam through the main vacuum line every 15k miles to clean the top of the motor and manually clean the throttle body. I swear to my grave this is a must for any engine to keep is smooth.

I would have no issue getting a 2013 or 2014 Rspec and driving the hell out of it with a SMILE!

The limited slip - I feel it does a great job honestly. I have driven the car in snow and ice and heavy rain - with a "normal" throttle input, you can feel the traction control/stability control working. It keeps the car straight and is a good feeling for a 429 hp rear wheel drive car. GM uses a mechanical locker for the rear and it is much different in our Tahoe in the same situation. With that, the rear tires will lock immediately under slip and is a MUCH better setup for a truck type situation where you may be in some real crappy traction situations. This is not the place you want to be in a sedan therefore the limited slip (via braking) in the Genesis is great.

Long post and hope it helps someone out there including the OP!!!!

 

[iSOBigD]

This is my new toy:
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Amazing beast of a car, although as far away from a spacious, quiet luxury car as it gets lol.

I drove the 2016 impala last year through the desert and really enjoyed it. However, it was nowhere near as quiet as my Genesis, delivered its power a bit weird (but it was fast enough, the v6 model), was FWD, had some weird design choices (the middle screen part moves up to give you a USB port, which doesn't fit much, some parts were padded, some were not), cheaper materials (lots of hard plastics and fake stitching on plastic/vinyl) but overall it was spacious, looked nice (a new E class owner complimented it), had decent performance and a nice interior, good entertainment system, built-in WiFi, nice looking front lights, etc. Here's a video with some pics I took

I would still say it does not get nearly the amount of looks and compliments as a Genesis and it's not as refined, but it's a good car that most people would be happy with.

 

[Yoda_guy]

I understand the comment on the truck/high end gm vehicles. I just sold my crew cab Duramax and that was the best vehicle I've ever owned. It was 10 years old though and that's time to go for me. As far as the Impala goes, I like the look quite a bit but I'm not owning a v6 and I'm not owning a fwd vehicle. The Genesis fits the bill and they are an excellent value right now so that's my target.

 

[Yoda_guy]

First of all, I appreciate everyone's input. I ended up going with a 30k mile 13 rspec. It's black on black and so far I'm really impressed. It's definitely not perfect but I dig it.

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[Gunkk]

Post pics!!!

 

[Delmustator]

I have 58k on my 2012 Rspec and I enjoyed it. I just x-piped the exhaust in prep for a muffler change. My only gripe is that I haven't found a good turbo or supercharger kit to boost the power of the sedan. I came from a supercharged vehicle that had brutal acceleration available whenever I was feeling frisky; the Rspec is nowhere close. Sure, it will go but it wasn't designed to run a sub-11 second quarter mile. Other than that, I pretty much like everything about the car. Sure, it has little things that can be irritating (just like any vehicle). But nothing major.

I can say that there is a distinct difference going from a $40k car to the $55k Rspec (or Ultimate//G80//etc). Mainly in creature comfort IMO.

I recently looked at a G80 3.3 Turbo AWD. However, the $58k sticker for a 365hp sedan didn't impress me. I think the real value is in the older model Ultimates and Rspecs. I saw a 2015, single owner, 19k miles, 5.0 Ultimate for $27k a few weeks ago.

Oh and a comment about the extended warranty. This vehicle is laden with bells and whistles that will fail at some point. Nothing is engineered to last a lifetime anymore. Any extended warranty is a MUST. I was having issues with various electronic stuff intermittently not working (e.g. driver side window control module, sunroof (switches), anti-collision sensor (two forward sensors only), plus a recall for a wiper motor replacement) a few weeks ago. I figured I'd have all the issues corrected along with the recall work in one visit to the dealership. Warranty replacement for all this stuff was $1800. I paid $1500 for my 10yr/100k B2B warranty. So in one visit, the warranty paid for itself.

 

[Yoda_guy]

I actually did buy an extended warranty for a pretty good price. And gunkk as soon as I figure out how I will lol

 

[Sirbustergoodpup]

Genesis 1G is an excellent automobile. I have 90k on my fully loaded model. No power train issues at all. I elected for the 3.8 engine. Living in hilly Pennsylvania can suck up a lot of gasoline. Plenty quick for me. Please watch your dealer. I have one near me that I went to twice, both times a disaster. Another one near me so far has been good. I try to service where I purchased the Genesis, but that is 150 miles away. I try to schedule when I have a business trip in that town. Please do get the extended warranty. Try for certified also if possible.