• Car enthusiast? Join us on Cars Connected! iOS | Android | Desktop
  • Hint: Use a descriptive title for your new message
    If you're looking for help and want to draw people in who can assist you, use a descriptive subject title when posting your message. In other words, "I need help with my car" could be about anything and can easily be overlooked by people who can help. However, "I need help with my transmission" will draw interest from people who can help with a transmission specific issue. Be as descriptive as you can. Please also post in the appropriate forum. The "Lounge" is for introducing yourself. If you need help with your G70, please post in the G70 section - and so on... This message can be closed by clicking the X in the top right corner.

new Kia Sept 2025 Navigation update

gknyce

Registered Member
Joined
Nov 1, 2024
Messages
206
Reaction score
113
Points
43
Genesis Model Year
2023
Genesis Model Type
Genesis GV60

This seems to include the EV6. The Genesis website still shows as the April 2025 "Paused" but wondering if we might see a release on there soon as well.
 
Ignore - reading a Reddit thread, this might be older/OTA stuff already gone out. Probably not applicable here.
 
Possibly a dumb question, but how do I (we) know which version applies to our vehicles?
Not dumb. I _think_ my '23 Advanced is ccIC - and maybe most GV60s are? Pretty sure the Gen6/Gen5 are more the Ioniq/EV6, etc. Guessing the '27' means the 27' inch screen, so maybe some GV70/80s that got that first?
_______

ccIC - GV60 (JW1)
First generation (JW1, 2021. 9. 30 ~ 2025. 3)
ccIC27 - GV60 (JW1 PE),
Facelift (JW1 PE, 2025. 3 ~ Current)


Edit - ok I was curious and started to dig in. At first glance, this is what I've found (below). It _does_ seem like the GV60 goes to "ccIC27" with the full screen (no gap).
_________

ccIC - ccIC

ccIC - GV60 (JW1), G90 (RS4)

ccIC (connected car integrated cockpit) is Genesis' next-generation infotainment system.

It can be seen as a high -end CCNC used for Hyundai and Kia . A structural difference with CCNC is that there is an integrated controller in the CCIC, and the CCNC is operating independently of the cluster and AVNT.[1] While the structure is connected through the structure, the CCIC runs as a module with a cluster, AVNT, HUD , and surround view monitor .

NVIDIA 's Drive PX2[2][3] It is used and is equipped with 8GB RAM . The cluster uses the BlackBerry QNX , the CCOS operating system for the info -tape system, and the CCIC27 vehicles using CCOS and LG Electronics ' Webos .[4]
,
1759663684887.webp
___________

ccIC27 - GV60 (JW1 PE), GV80 (JX1 PE), GV80 Coupe (JX1 CUV), G80 (RG3 PE), Electrified G80 (RG3 EV PE), GV70 (JK1 PE), Electrified GV70 (JK1 EV PE)

ccIC27 (connected car Integrated Cockpit 27) is a 27-inch panoramic curved display-compatible version of ccIC and is Genesis ' next-generation infotainment system.

It can be seen as a high-end version of the ccNC used in Hyundai Motors and Kia .

Supports built-in CAM 2 .

LG Electronics' Webos[5][6] Is mounted.
2.2.2. characteristic
The ccIC27 uses a 27-inch large screen to support a differentiated wide 3D map view , providing wider and more intuitive guidance to drivers. The map color is different from the existing navigation.[7] , Unlike existing navigation systems where the map symbol mark is mostly just text, ccIC27 and ccNC have the map symbol mark inside a circle.[8] After the second update in 2024, the driving direction 3D map view can also be used in Wide 3D, and as it can be used on the instrument panel, map theme setting items (classic, neon) have been added.

Using OLED panels[9] The bezel is thin, good image quality, and high brightness makes the visibility significantly higher.

Interesting trivia for fellow geeks
- pretty sure WebOS was started by Palm (!), as a concept for their next-gen Pilots/devices. Never made it. LG eventually got it, it's used on quite a few (all?) of their smart TVs. Did not realize it was making other in-roads.
- curious to see ccNC uses Linux/Android. So they went from that, to webOS/BlackberryQNX, to webOS, and now this PLEOS? Pleos Connect
 
Last edited:
Just looking at these links, it now shows the new website updates and software will be available after Oct 15.
 
My GV60 just said it updated maps. It didn’t say anything else changed. So not sure if there is another update coming out or if that was it.
 
Looking to update and upgrade your Genesis luxury sport automobile? Look no further than right here in our own forum store - where orders are shipped immediately!
I also just got an OTA update for my GV70. Seems to be maps only at this point.
According to what @Fant posted from NHTSA - https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2025/MC-11023693-0001.pdf - there are minimal changes, both to the 2023-2025 GV60 (ccIC) or the GV70 (which I believe is Premium Gen6 if you don't have the 27-inch screen/no gap) My neighbor with an electrified GV70 would like a fix for his car switching to Celsius repeatedly.

ccIC - GV60 (JW1) First generation (JW1, 2021. 9. 30 ~ 2025. 3)

- Apply Real-time Vehicle Status (MQTT) for GEN2 Connected Car Services (CCS)
- In-Vehicle Activation (IVA) applied for Genesis Connected Services (GCS) enrollment via head unit and QR Code
- Display a revised notification on the AVN prior to the application of Over-the-Air (OTA) and USB updates
- Add a Charging Filter Setting button on the Route Options screen after setting the destination
- Add common nicknames to dummy phonebook data to guide the call initiation scenario for cases like “Mom” and “Daddy”
- Change the Phone Projection Icon Image on the Home Screen
- Address behavior of programming Odometer with GDS tool resulting in the recorded value being in kilometers
- Improved AVN boot time after reset

Based on my reading of the platforms/technologies - total opinion here - no reason to think the GV60 will get much in the way of changes in software. It's a dead platform, they've moved away from it, so why invest much time/money there? Probably more focused on their new Pleos Connect, which seems to be based on AAOS (Android automotive), so seems natural to assume they'l move to Google maps as well. Pleos Connect

I _would_ like to see this Genesis Pay be applicable to different charger platforms - your std. driver probably doesn't want to juggle the many mobile-apps to appease each platform.
 
The battery percentage and icon are now misaligned in the drivers display.

The only think I really want them to add is the ability to set arrival SOC at chargers and destination.

The Ioniq guy showed a preview of CCNC with that so I was hopeful.
 
I haven’t applied the update yet but I am constantly disappointed with the features of Genesis vs Hyundai since my wife has the 2024 ioniq5. Her car has the ability to see the estimated soc for every stop planned using the built in navigation since a year ago.

The ioniq5 is also able to see the electric usage page while plugged into a dcfc (which is useful to see if the battery heater is still on while charging) vs our car which states car must be in ready mode.

I’ve stopped expecting anything additional features to be added to this platform since I saw the press conference for their upcoming pleos platform which iirc is suppose to debut next year. But I would like the features that’s already present in the Hyundai egmp cars to be added to the Genesis cars.
 
Currwntly my nav is not working with Genesis connected services. Everything else is but it won’t route plan or give me EV charging stops.

I restarted the head unit, reset the DCU, and after that didn’t work pulled the 12v.

Still not working. Let me know if anyone else is dealing with this.
 
Currwntly my nav is not working with Genesis connected services. Everything else is but it won’t route plan or give me EV charging stops.

I restarted the head unit, reset the DCU, and after that didn’t work pulled the 12v.

Still not working. Let me know if anyone else is dealing with this.
I got this message last night. Maybe still some issues?

1000003213.webp
 
It seems that the route planning has no EV component at the moment. In the past when I had no cell signal it would still estimate arrival percentage. Now there is nothing.

It’s possible that that’s what they are addressing in that update, hopefully it’s addressed before next Tuesday.
 
I’ve stopped expecting anything additional features to be added to this platform since I saw the press conference for their upcoming pleos platform
When I saw this post from you yesterday I thought, "yeah, same". But it's been percolating in my mind ever since. If this is true, if there really aren't going to be any significant new features provided as OTA updates for the existing fleet, that is really a black mark on the brand in my opinion.

Dropping support for already sold vehicles is something we've been accustomed to all our lives, but Tesla, Rivian and Lucid have kicked that old model to the curb. Do Hyundai/Kia/Genesis want to compete with these new generation cars or not? The GV60 got a significant OTA update a year ago, so the hardware is capable of software updates. But that means nothing if they don't actually provide any updates. Tesla Model 3 owners that purchased their cars nearly a decade ago are still getting updates. If legacy manufacturers want to compete in this environment, it's time to saddle up.

There's been a lot of discussion on this board about never wanting to buy another Genesis because it took a few months to get an adapter. As far as I'm concerned that is small potatoes - a problem I could (and did) fix myself by spending a minor sum. But if they are going to stop providing software updates for the car, especially with major missing features like manual preconditioning, that's another question. Especially since this would be a deliberate decision from the top levels of management, rather than just a somewhat bungled minor promotional campaign. If a brand is going to sabotage their existing buyers, it's probably time to pick another brand. I'm not saying that has happened yet, the jury is still out on this. Maybe there's a significant update around the corner. But if there isn't, I think that's worth more than a shrug.
 
I've been thinking quite a bit about this post. Some really really good points here, and I'm not really in disagreement with you. But I feel like a counterpoint or devil's-advocacy stance is needed. Thanks for your thoughts on this.

When I saw this post from you yesterday I thought, "yeah, same". But it's been percolating in my mind ever since. If this is true, if there really aren't going to be any significant new features provided as OTA updates for the existing fleet, that is really a black mark on the brand in my opinion.
I don't know that every historical/legacy auto maker has promised 'significant new features' as part of their selling points. Perhaps this is not true - certainly there IS the (understood or otherwise) agreement that promised-features, which might not be enabled in software yet, are expected to be delivered (lucid dreamdrive pro as an example), or that bugfixes for things that are problematic UI/UX/feature-sets or poor performance (cough Polestar). As you point out - Tesla/Rivian/etc changed the calculation there. But did Genesis promise things for the GV60 that it did not deliver? Did it promise wireless carplay, before delivering it with the previous OTA/map update? Or were there features that were listed but not present at sale-time? I can understand - with Tesla/Lucid/Rivian/others - your "expectation" but I wonder whether you should be able to _expect_ that that if it is not advertised.

Dropping support for already sold vehicles is something we've been accustomed to all our lives, but Tesla, Rivian and Lucid have kicked that old model to the curb. Do Hyundai/Kia/Genesis want to compete with these new generation cars or not? The GV60 got a significant OTA update a year ago, so the hardware is capable of software updates. But that means nothing if they don't actually provide any updates.
Ah but Genesis IS providing updates. Yes they are minimal in terms of what is visible to you and me - and yes likely are less improvements and adhere closer to the old-model. BUT a strong argument could be made that the GV60 is not an SDV (software defined vehicle) - where you can interact with the car (GV60) via buttons/physical controls w/out having to go to the touchscreen for _everything_. So the UI/UX matters, IMO,... less. And perhaps redesign does not carry the same weight.

Tesla Model 3 owners that purchased their cars nearly a decade ago are still getting updates. If legacy manufacturers want to compete in this environment, it's time to saddle up.
No argument - although there are likely limits to what they can do, based on the age of the processors/platform.
There's been a lot of discussion on this board about never wanting to buy another Genesis because it took a few months to get an adapter. As far as I'm concerned that is small potatoes - a problem I could (and did) fix myself by spending a minor sum. But if they are going to stop providing software updates for the car, especially with major missing features like manual preconditioning, that's another question. Especially since this would be a deliberate decision from the top levels of management, rather than just a somewhat bungled minor promotional campaign.

Agreed on adapter-rollout fiasco. But they _are_ providing software updates... maybe more map-related than anything else. But how many recalls have been 'software'-implemented? Again, not visible to us, but there.

If a brand is going to sabotage their existing buyers, it's probably time to pick another brand. I'm not saying that has happened yet, the jury is still out on this. Maybe there's a significant update around the corner. But if there isn't, I think that's worth more than a shrug.

Sabotage is a strong word, and one of the places I disagree. Does a lack of new software capabilities detract in any way from my daily driving? No it does not. Did I buy this car b/c of some promises of future enhancements? Also no. Genesis has not abandoned this car, even if significant changes to the software are not done.

Maybe this is not simply platform-related... maybe demographics plays a role here too. E.g. an older populace as the median-age for purchasing this car... so maybe change is less desireable there?

Again, I'm not really in disagreement with your general sentiment, but this last section, to my mind, goes too far. Lack of manual preconditioning far from a deal-breaker for me. If I was doing much more DC fast-charging and road-tripping longer distances - maybe. But like a large sector of the population, I charge at home where it is a non-factor, and if/when I would need - that is a low single-digit % of my needs.
 
Given that the GV60 was a new "EV-only" platform, I mistakenly presumed it would also be an SDV. It's really not, even if some of those capabilities are baked into the platform.

For now, what I'd really hope for is better (any?) DCFC integration into the NAV, and Wireless CarPlay.

Wireless CarPlay is theoretically available for our car, but I've tried updating the software a few times without success, as I previously reported.

We will be back using the car again in a couple of weeks, and I'll book a service appointment in hopes that they will install *all* of the available updates. Fingers crossed.
 
Wireless CarPlay is theoretically available for our car, but I've tried updating the software a few times without success, as I previously reported.

Theoretically is a funny word, it is available, just appears your car is failing updates... Are you stuck on that ~58% download bug? I had that for a year before I got around to bringing it in and they fixed it/updated and with that came wireless AA/car play and has worked fine the past year.
 
Back
Top