No true "auto" AC control?

[POG]

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Is it just me or is there no real AUTO climate control option for this car? Hopefully I'm just missing something. In my prior car (2015 Hyundai Genesis sedan), the climate control had an AUTO mode toggle button (on/off) where when enabled I simply selected the desired temp with a dial and digital temp readout and that was it. Car would control fan speed - blast ac when first started after parked outside on a hot day, then gradually decrease fan speed depending on set temp after the interior cools down.

This car has an AUTO button but it doesn't seem to "automatically" control anything. Seems like it should say "FAN" since you manually cycle through 3 fan speeds and manually control temp always as well.

Am I using it incorrectly?

 

[skiingj]

The temperature is automatically controlled, but the fan speed not so much. I like having the three fan speed options but understand your point.

 

[gvjim]

the climate control had an AUTO mode toggle button (on/off) where when enabled I simply selected the desired temp with a dial and digital temp readout and that was it. Car would control fan speed - blast ac when first started after parked outside on a hot day, then gradually decrease fan speed depending on set temp after the interior cools down.

That seems like how the GV60 works to me. I leave mine on auto 95% of the time.

 

[JBattan]

Yeah, it operates differently from most other cars I have had with automatic control. I don't prefer it, but I've gotten used to it.

 

[noremacnova]

The weird thing is that the Auto mode has three “speeds” which seem to be more aggressive in ascending order. By aggressive, I generally mean fan speed, but I suspect they could also affect the PID controller values.

 

[steveinarizona]

The temperature is automatically controlled, but the fan speed not so much. I like having the three fan speed options but understand your point.

I also like and prefer this system. Once the car has cooled sufficiently for my desires, I can lower the fan speed to the lowest setting. I think it allows me a quieter car.

 

[POG]

I also like and prefer this system. Once the car has cooled sufficiently for my desires, I can lower the fan speed to the lowest setting. I think it allows me a quieter car.

I like a quieter car too. My point is my older/other cars do this "automatically" when "auto" is enabled and this car doesn't. In this car the "auto" button is a mislabeled manual 3 speed fan control button. I am frustrated that I have to manually turn down the fan after the car cools off.

 

[enrique_7812x]

I like a quieter car too. My point is my older/other cars do this "automatically" when "auto" is enabled and this car doesn't. In this car the "auto" button is a mislabeled manual 3 speed fan control button.

If it's like the 3 choices on a GV70 (and it sounds like it is), you're confusing the intent of High, Medium and Low settings with the "automatic" function of each one. It won't jump from High to Medium to Low, but as the interior temperature gets close to your your desired temperature, you'll hear the fan automatically reducing in speed, and then adjust itself as needed to maintain that temperature.
One choice isn't always the best. Genesis understands that people are different. A frail 90-year old Grandma doesn't like the high wind tunnel effect that 40-year old overweight Bubba does, so she might pick Low while Bubba likes High. Both will adjust fan speed automatically.

 

[POG]

If it's like the 3 choices on a GV70 (and it sounds like it is), you're confusing the intent of High, Medium and Low settings with the "automatic" function of each one. It won't jump from High to Medium to Low, but as the interior temperature gets close to your your desired temperature, you'll hear the fan automatically reducing in speed, and then adjust itself as needed to maintain that temperature.
One choice isn't always the best. Genesis understands that people are different. A frail 90-year old Grandma doesn't like the high wind tunnel effect that 40-year old overweight Bubba does, so she might pick Low while Bubba likes High. Both will adjust fan speed automatically.

I'm just not seeing it adjust as you described. I want a mode where the car is able to set the full range of fan speeds (from absolute lowest speed to absolute highest) so that it blasts initially if a very high temp differential and then be almost off when at set temp. What it seems to me is a small range for each setting. For example if the fan had 9 set speeds, each mode only has access to 3. Low being the 3 lowest and high only having the 3 highest fan speeds. This makes it impossible for me to get the desired auto mode I want (and get in other cars and my older Genesis)

Having 3 auto modes where the high end speed is unique per mode but full range to the low end makes sense to me. As implemented with small non overlapping ranges, it just seems not all that useful to me personally.

I honestly don't even notice it adjusting much at all in each mode. It genuinely feels like a low/medium/high button - which is the complete opposite of "auto"

 

[enrique_7812x]

I'm just not seeing it adjust as you described. I want a mode where the car is able to set the full range of fan speeds (from absolute lowest speed to absolute highest) so that it blasts initially if a very high temp differential and then be almost off when at set temp. What it seems to me is a small range for each setting. For example if the fan had 9 set speeds, each mode only has access to 3. Low being the 3 lowest and high only having the 3 highest fan speeds. This makes it impossible for me to get the desired auto mode I want (and get in other cars and my older Genesis)

Having 3 auto modes where the high end speed is unique per mode makes sense to me. As implemented with small non overlapping ranges, it just seems not all that useful to me personally.

Still not quite right. Each of the 3 will eventually kick the fan down to nearly zero while maintaining the temperature you set. The highest fan speed in each one is the variable. High will get you there quicker, but louder.

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[POG]

Each of the 3 will eventually kick the fan down to nearly zero while maintaining the temperature you set. The highest fan speed in each one is the variable. High will get you there quicker, but louder.

Ok so this leads me to think something is wrong with my car. In high mode it never gets lower for me. I have an hour long commute in Texas, it has plenty of time to cool down and slow down the fan.

 

[noremacnova]

Yes, perhaps something is wrong with yours. The three different auto settings should roughly settle out similarly. For those of us who had to endure engineering control theory, I suspect the three settings represent three different PID schemes, which roughly control the “aggressiveness” of the system.

 

[enrique_7812x]

Ok so this leads me to think something is wrong with my car. In high mode it never gets lower for me. I have an hour long commute in Texas, it has plenty of time to cool down and slow down the fan.

Yes, an hour is more than plenty of time. Have the dealer check it out. A ride-along with a service tech might be best.

 

[enrique_7812x]

Yes, perhaps something is wrong with yours. The three different auto settings should roughly settle out similarly. For those of us who had to endure engineering control theory, I suspect the three settings represent three different PID schemes, which roughly control the “aggressiveness” of the system.

I learned a new term today. Thanks.

 

[EdP]

I'm just not seeing it adjust as you described. I want a mode where the car is able to set the full range of fan speeds (from absolute lowest speed to absolute highest) so that it blasts initially if a very high temp differential and then be almost off when at set temp. What it seems to me is a small range for each setting. For example if the fan had 9 set speeds, each mode only has access to 3. Low being the 3 lowest and high only having the 3 highest fan speeds. This makes it impossible for me to get the desired auto mode I want (and get in other cars and my older Genesis)

Having 3 auto modes where the high end speed is unique per mode but full range to the low end makes sense to me. As implemented with small non overlapping ranges, it just seems not all that useful to me personally.

I honestly don't even notice it adjusting much at all in each mode. It genuinely feels like a low/medium/high button - which is the complete opposite of "auto"

Complicated. I don't want/need the AC to think for me.
The day I bought my car I set the temperature to 72, the fan speed one notch next to the slowest.

 

[prawlin]

Ok so this leads me to think something is wrong with my car. In high mode it never gets lower for me. I have an hour long commute in Texas, it has plenty of time to cool down and slow down the fan.

My GV60 auto HVAC is definitely full auto. The 3 auto levels just vary the overall aggressiveness of the auto controls and probably also the energy efficiency. I leave mine on level 1 and set the target temperature. Never ever touch anything else. It takes care of everything (inc fan speed, heating or cooling etc).

Maybe yours has latched up or glitched in some way? Have you tried the head unit reset thing? Start car in Accessory mode then press both end buttons together until it reboots (Map Settings buttons iirc?).
Peter.

 

[SoCalG90]

My Gv60 Worked on automatic, same as my G90. I set the system to automatic, i move the temp either up or down. If I set it to "LO" the car will be at the coldest temp and highest fan speed. If i raise the temp, the fan generally gets slower. If I do not want auto, I hit the lo, med, high buttons or select a fan speed.

 

[gvjim]

My GV60 auto HVAC is definitely full auto. The 3 auto levels just vary the overall aggressiveness of the auto controls and probably also the energy efficiency.

This has been a valuable thread for me - I did not know there were three levels of auto. Next time I'm in the car I'll have to check that out.