Oil Change

[Toadfrog]

I have always changed my own oil, even on new cars, just like to see what is going on underneath and try to be particular on the type of oil and the right amount. Last oil change from the dealership was over a quart overfull.

Has anyone done their own oil and filter change yet on a G90 5.0 AWD?

How much oil did you actually use? Is it is really almost ten quarts?

The Genesis Oil Filter Kit has a new drain plug that has an Allen wrench hole to tighten It looks like, which seems unusual. Anyone know the torque specs on how much to tighten that? Any tips on the canister filter element change?

Lastly, what weight and brand of oil are you using that you like?

Thanks!

 

[Valerie]

I have always changed my own oil, even on new cars, just like to see what is going on underneath and try to be particular on the type of oil and the right amount. Last oil change from the dealership was over a quart overfull.

Has anyone done their own oil and filter change yet on a G90 5.0 AWD?

How much oil did you actually use? Is it is really almost ten quarts?

The Genesis Oil Filter Kit has a new drain plug that has an Allen wrench hole to tighten It looks like, which seems unusual. Anyone know the torque specs on how much to tighten that? Any tips on the canister filter element change?

Lastly, what weight and brand of oil are you using that you like?

Thanks!

 

[AVMIII]

Oh boy, did I make a complicated job out of this oil change! First off, make sure that you get the correct filter! Rockauto lists 2 different filters for this car, and only the shorter fatter 1 will fit. I bought the correct one (after getting the wrong one on Amazon) at the dealer. About $12, and its a Mahle. I don't have the part number at the moment. I wasn't really sure how to take the filter off. Only after I removed the allen key drain (6mm) did I notice that I could now use a socket (24mm) to easily remove the filter housing. The oil drain plug is 17 mm btw. It took a little longer time to drain from both the plug and filter than I'm used too. It's sort of a pain to take off the drain plug filter "doors" too. I need to find some more of those plastic pop rivet things as I broke some. Why couldn't they have put a nice latching door there?!

Anyway after far too long an afternoon, I filled up the engine with, yes almost 10 quarts of oil! I used Castrol extended mileage synthetic. My dealer still uses semi-synthetic, which just doesn't make sense to me. Another reason why I like to do my own oil changes as I know what oil and filter are in the car. Oh, and after that I changed the oil and filter in my 2011 Hyundia Genesis 4.6 in about 20 min. Next time for the G90 it should be a lot faster.

 

[Toadfrog]

Oh boy, did I make a complicated job out of this oil change! First off, make sure that you get the correct filter! Rockauto lists 2 different filters for this car, and only the shorter fatter 1 will fit. I bought the correct one (after getting the wrong one on Amazon) at the dealer. About $12, and its a Mahle. I don't have the part number at the moment. I wasn't really sure how to take the filter off. Only after I removed the allen key drain (6mm) did I notice that I could now use a socket (24mm) to easily remove the filter housing. The oil drain plug is 17 mm btw. It took a little longer time to drain from both the plug and filter than I'm used too. It's sort of a pain to take off the drain plug filter "doors" too. I need to find some more of those plastic pop rivet things as I broke some. Why couldn't they have put a nice latching door there?!

Anyway after far too long an afternoon, I filled up the engine with, yes almost 10 quarts of oil! I used Castrol extended mileage synthetic. My dealer still uses semi-synthetic, which just doesn't make sense to me. Another reason why I like to do my own oil changes as I know what oil and filter are in the car. Oh, and after that I changed the oil and filter in my 2011 Hyundia Genesis 4.6 in about 20 min. Next time for the G90 it should be a lot faster.

So I changed the oil today, and thanks to AVMIII and his wrench sizes and directions it was really a breeze!

Sadly the pop rivets were gone on mine to, from only two dealership oil changes :-(

Makes me wonder how careful they were with the rest of the oil change!

Car has an awesome design with a drain plug in the bottom of the oil filter canister so it is empty when you take it off! No mess at all!!

I was afraid I bought the wrong oil filter element because it has a cloth like lip on the inside of the filter element that makes the opening a little smaller than the round cylinder it fits around, but when I looked at the old filter it was the same, so you just have to push it on and it expands so that it stays in place.

i ordered my “Service Kit - Oil Filter” from an online Hyundai OEM parts store and it came in a nice looking black Genesis box. The kit comes with the filter element, a completely new filter canister drain plug, the o-ring for the filter canister and a new washer for the oil drain plug. Nice!

Part number on the box is 26320 3F500.

My car is a 2019 G90 5.0 AWD, but will bet this filter fits all G90 5.0 engines.

i used Mobil 1 full synthetic extended performance 5w30 since we are coming into the hot summer months. I ran some clean oil through the pan while I had the drain plug out just to get all the old stuff out of the pan. Put just a smidge over 9.5 quarts into the car and the dip stick read perfect oil level the first time.

This truly is a very easy job, even for those that don’t do much mechanical work. You will need a strong arm or a leverage wrench to take the filter canister off and the drain plug if the dealership changed it last time as it was over tightened on mine.

I would highly suggest doing your own oil changes! It is quick and easy and you know for sure what oil and filter is in your car AND you can be sure all the parts are on right!

 

[TinsleyC]

Toadfrog, I agree with all your reasons and do my own changes on my G80 as well. Been doing them for 45 years now. I thought that with me being 60, I would let the dealer do this work and retire from "lube rack" duties, (oil in car was a year old, but only had 2,000 miles) and when I learned they used conventional oil only, I decided to do it. I've since changed it twice myself.

Curious what you use for raised access. I have a floor jack and found that raising the front left of the car allowed easy access. I've considered Rhino Ramps or similar, but my garage floor is slippery and not sure I want to store them. What do you use? A 5.0 G90 is surely heavier.

 

[XXX]

Toadfrog, I guess I'm coming to you for my oil changes. I believe you're not far from me.

 

[Toadfrog]

Toadfrog, I agree with all your reasons and do my own changes on my G80 as well. Been doing them for 45 years now. I thought that with me being 60, I would let the dealer do this work and retire from "lube rack" duties, (oil in car was a year old, but only had 2,000 miles) and when I learned they used conventional oil only, I decided to do it. I've since changed it twice myself.

Curious what you use for raised access. I have a floor jack and found that raising the front left of the car allowed easy access. I've considered Rhino Ramps or similar, but my garage floor is slippery and not sure I want to store them. What do you use? A 5.0 G90 is surely heavier.

I believe mine are rhino ramps as well. Mine have a rubber patch that sticks to the slick garage floor. The awd probably helps that too! I was too nervous to use my floor jack and jack stands, the ramps worked perfectly for me and it raises the car front up a little so more oil drains out of the pan.

I am curious though about how I am going to make sure I don’t jeopardize my warranty by not taking it to the dealer for oil changes!

 

[Toadfrog]

Toadfrog, I guess I'm coming to you for my oil changes. I believe you're not far from me.

Bring it on!! We can swap car stories while you help!!

 

[XXX]

Bring it on!! We can swap car stories while you help!!

I know how to start a car.

 

[EdP]

I believe mine are rhino ramps as well. Mine have a rubber patch that sticks to the slick garage floor. The awd probably helps that too! I was too nervous to use my floor jack and jack stands, the ramps worked perfectly for me and it raises the car front up a little so more oil drains out of the pan.

I am curious though about how I am going to make sure I don’t jeopardize my warranty by not taking it to the dealer for oil changes!

Keep receipts for the oil. Log in the Genesis owners site and record what you did. You do not have to have service done by a dealer for warranty coverage.

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[Toadfrog]

Keep receipts for the oil. Log in the Genesis owners site and record what you did. You do not have to have service done by a dealer for warranty coverage.

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Awesome thanks so much! I had no idea I could log that! Perfect!!

 

[Toadfrog]

I know how to start a car.

Great time to learn then!!

 

[XXX]

Great time to learn then!!

You are probably right. Have always gone to the dealership.

 

[Toadfrog]

You are probably right. Have always gone to the dealership.

I am no service tech that is for sure! But you care more about your car than the service tech does who is paid by how many cars he can push out the door.

Service technicians are paid by the billable hours. So for instance, if a valve cover gasket replacement is a 4 billable hour job and he can get it done in two, and then two more done in the same 8 hour shift, he actually makes 12 billable hours in his 8 hour shift. Do that 5 to 6 days a week and you can easily hit $100K+ annual salary if you are a very skilled and efficient tech.

So you can see they actually get paid less if they take their time and are very careful.

Sadly it is the same at almost all car repair places.

went to Discount Tire yesterday and one tech put the tire on the hub and then put the lug nut in the air ratchet and put it on the lug screw and put it on with the air ratchet, which is very hard on the lug screws. The other tech on the other side hand started each lug not before he put the air gun on it which is so much better for your car!

I was thankful for the latter but had to admit his supervisor is probably not going to let him advance because he took twice as long to do his side as the other tech on the other side.

Sadly, the system is not set up to take good care of our cars but to make the dealership money.

If you work hard for your money and care enough about the details to appreciate a car like the Genesis, that is running perfectly you will inevitably be disappointed with your dealership.

Sad to say that because service techs or managers are not bad people, but they are just trying to make a living like the rest of us.

 

[pulsar]

Toadfrog, I agree with all your reasons and do my own changes on my G80 as well. Been doing them for 45 years now. I thought that with me being 60, I would let the dealer do this work and retire from "lube rack" duties, (oil in car was a year old, but only had 2,000 miles) and when I learned they used conventional oil only, I decided to do it. I've since changed it twice myself.

Curious what you use for raised access. I have a floor jack and found that raising the front left of the car allowed easy access. I've considered Rhino Ramps or similar, but my garage floor is slippery and not sure I want to store them. What do you use? A 5.0 G90 is surely heavier.

I’m in Arlington. Bring some beer and your oil and filter and we can put your G80 on my lift and make shirt change of the oil. My wife’s CX9 will fit in the bay with my lift so as long as a G80 is no bigger is should fit too. Dark beer please.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

About time to change the oil on the G90. What ramps work well? I was originally thinking to use a jack, but then if I'm jacking up on the pinch weld jack points, not sure where I can put the jack stands. On my old car, I'd just jack up in the middle on the subframe, but I assume the entire underside of the car is covered. I also don't have a service manual that lists alternate jacking locations.

I've also never done one of these cartridge oil filters before. Do you hand-tighten like a spin-on oil filter? I'm guessing the oil filter cap is plastic, so shouldn't be overtightened.

 

[TinsleyC]

I've done it both ways on my G80, use my lift on the jack points, then put the jacks on the strut arm.

That all made me nervous so I bought some Rhino Ramps. They work okay but they can slide easily on a slick garage floor. Put them on a sheet of rubber.

Also, the tendency (at least for me) is to let off the gas and hit the brake when I feel the car overtake gravity and go up the ramp. This causes the ramps slide and not make it all the way up. You don't want to run off the end of the ramps... but having 4wd should make it easier to get up the ramps.

After getting it down and staying in the gas a bit longer, I'm able to drive up successfully. Then it's easy to access everything, and the drain plug is on the back side of the pan, so the ramp tilt helps drain it.

You will need a socket for the filter cap, I think it's a 22 or 24mm socket, I can't recall, but look it up. I buy the WIX filters, they come with an oil plug gasket so you don't need to buy anything other than the filter.

Make sure you have a large oil pan, my car has over 7 quarts of oil. I learned that the hard way. It's the first car I had that had over 5 quarts! I use my older oil pan to catch the oil filter mess.

My oil filter cap has a white dot on it that lined up with another white dot on the housing, so I just tighten it down until those white dots line up, and it's pretty tight.

Other than that that's a pretty normal process. My car calls for 7.5 quarts but I usually put in six and then start the engine for 30 seconds and then turn it off, wait about 10 minutes and check the oil, and add oil as needed to get it where I want it. 7.5 is way too much.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Thanks for the tips! I'm actually a bit nervous using ramps, as I had a minor disaster with them in my teen days trying to get an old '83 Cutlass Supreme up on a set by myself. Never used any since. This time I will make sure to draft my wife as a spotter.

Is yours the V8? Earlier, some were saying it takes 10 quarts. My drain pan might be a bit small. I'll definitely need to check it, and also make sure I have a 24mm socket.

 

[MARYLAND RAUDER]

Two four post lifts.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Two four post lifts.

I wish! Almost certain I don't have enough room. I'd like to get Quickjacks, they used to go on sale a lot, but never when I need it.