Open Letter to Genesis Motors - How I'd Improve the G70

[19 G70 3.3T]

I believe @yuri82 was referring to the fact that Android and Apple want the vehicle manufacturers to pay for the service that allows Genesis to show the directions in the HUD and other vehicle integrations.

 

[skiingj]

My '23 GV60P just got wireless AA/CP with hud integration via a OTA. I would love a eG70 beast when my lease is up in two years.

 

[wpscully]

I'd like them to rework the software feature which prevents you from accidentally locking the key fob in the car. Here's how it works for me, today:​

• I park the car and stop the engine. They key fob is deep in my pants pocket.​
• I open the door and while my hand is there, press the door lock. This is exactly the right time to lock the door, my hands are in the exact location needed to both exit the car and secure the car.​
• Note: I'm not yet even tried to get out of the car. I'm merely opening the door.​
• The software panics, thinking, "The fob is inside the car! Heaven forbid!! Unlock the doors!!!"​
• I roll my eyes, because the software is being a bit too proactive.​
• I get out of the car and while still standing between the open door and the driver's seat, I try to use the interior switch to lock the doors.​
• The software panics, thinking, "The fob is still inside the car! Unlock the doors!!!"​
• I sigh again, and close the door. The car is unsecured until, as I walk away, I fish the fob out of my pocket and lock the car doors.​

What a truly smart car should do:​

• I park the car and stop the engine.​
• I open the door and while my hand is there, press the door lock.​
• The software thinks, "The fob is inside the car! But the door is still open... Maybe the driver is still exiting the vehicle... Maybe it will be OK."​
• I exit the car and I close the door.​
• At this point the software checks:
  • "I can sense the key fob it no longer inside the car. I won't unlock the door." Or​
  • "I sense the fob is in the car and the car door is now closed. I better unlock the door!"​

Using this logic, 99% of the time I can walk away, because the rather large fob rarely falls out of my pants. Or one percent of the time I wonder, "Why did the door unlock itself when I shut the door? Oops, I left the fob inside. My mistake." My Lexus worked like this.

Moral of this story: The right and proper time to check for a fob in a locked car is exactly when the door is closed, not when the lock is engaged with the interior switch.


One or two additional notes:​

• If I leave the G70 door open and stand with my hips toward the rear of the car, behind the "B" pillar or near the rear passenger door, stretching as far as I can reach, then lock the car using the switch, the software thinks the fob is far enough outside the car not to unlock the doors.​
• If I stand with the driver's door open and reach over the window frame, and press the door lock button, the steel in the driver's door is enough to convince the software that the fob is outside the vehicle.​
• It doesn't seem to matter if the fob is in my left or right pants pocket.​
• Apparently the software "needs a bit of sheet steel" between the car's inside key sensor and the outside sensor, to determine of the fob is in or out of the car. Which is why the car shouldn't bother trying to "protect" me until the door is first shut.​
• I don't know how the car currently acts if the driver tosses the fob through an open sunroof. In this case I think the owner deserves to be punished. The car should keep the doors locked and to add insult to injury, close the sunroof, too! ​

 

[19 G70 3.3T]

My only question to you is this: Why are you still using the interior door lock switch to lock the car? Just close the door and push the button on the exterior door handle. That immediately locks all four doors leaving the car both closed and secured. The factory programming is there to insure there is no possible way to lock your keys in the car (or the trunk for that matter) unless, like you've said, you do it absolutely on purpose. I cannot tell you the last time I took my key fob out of my pocket in order to operate the car in any way.

 

[Volfy]

My only question to you is this: Why are you still using the interior door lock switch to lock the car? Just close the door and push the button on the exterior door handle. That immediately locks all four doors leaving the car both closed and secured. The factory programming is there to insure there is no possible way to lock your keys in the car (or the trunk for that matter) unless, like you've said, you do it absolutely on purpose. I cannot tell you the last time I took my key fob out of my pocket in order to operate the car in any way.

Exactly. That's what the exterior lock/unlock button is for. Works exactly as it should.

 

[wpscully]

My only question to you is this: Why are you still using the interior door lock switch to lock the car? Just close the door and push the button on the exterior door handle. That immediately locks all four doors leaving the car both closed and secured. The factory programming is there to insure there is no possible way to lock your keys in the car (or the trunk for that matter) unless, like you've said, you do it absolutely on purpose. I cannot tell you the last time I took my key fob out of my pocket in order to operate the car in any way.

Although I did read the entire owner's manual I apparently did not retain this tidbit. But I tried it today and yes, it does work.

I suppose I never paid much attention to that external button on the handle because it's not needed to enter the car (which unlocks by touching the door handle anywhere). And because (at least for the Havana Red color) it's well-hidden to my eye. That said, I still would prefer to use the interior switch, largely because I never use the car's door handle to close the car door. I generally grab the window frame, pretty close to the top right-angle edge. I may try to revise my "muscle memory" and see if using the handle's button is easier than finding the fob in my pocket.

Thank you for your advice and guidance. I learned something new... always good!

 

[19 G70 3.3T]

There is one more solution to this; install the remote start kit from My Key Premium. While I hardly use the remote start function of this kit (only when it's raining or really cold outside) the proximity lock/unlock is outstanding! All you have to do is walk up to the car with your key in your pocket and the door unlocks. Likewise, after you exit the car and walk away, it locks. It also gives you the ability to leave the car running with the doors locked and the security system active. Honestly, it's the best $330 I've ever spent on a car modification and it took less than 10 minutes to install.

Genesis G70 Remote starter

 

[listenupfocker]

My biggest wish is they make a true high performance, track focused 2-door variant to compete with the likes of M, RS and AMG. Also, please don't skimp on features that come standard on all other Genesis models and some Hyundais/KIAs.

But more than anything, just don't kill off the G70!

 

[ejguillot]

+1 on keeping the G70! I like my 2019, and would eventually like to get another (with a V6 TT, no 4 cylinders for me!).

 

[Ixlr8]

Ok, I have had my 2025 G70 3.3T. for 2 months now. I am just getting out of the break-in period. (Previously a 2020 G80 3.3T Sport)

Likes:

• True stick shift. The new G80 dial is a steaming piece of crap.
• Real gauges, with moving indicators that are mechanical in nature. Big +
• Sport package with a true LSD. Nirvana. Last 4 cars had brake modulated rear wheel traction control. I almost bought a Lexus IS350 for that reason alone.
• Very spirited engine. The throttle curve makes it seem very eager to move.
• The Sport+ mode. When the seatback grabs you, you know good things are going to happen and they do.
• The driver door is correctly sized. What? OK, when you are an aging Boomer like me with recent knee replacements, I can fit in the door. My wifes Mazda CX-50 is problematic.
• The front seats are very comfortable. Excellent adjustability.
• The choice of tires is commendable. I cannot seem to break them loose no motter how hard I try. The Michelin Sport are a FAR CRY better than the absolute crap Continental tires on my G80 Sport. I had to replace multiple Continental tires on my G80 from blowouts, for less than blowout causes. At my cost.
• The multipurpose display was adequtely sized and properly positioned. I hate an iPad for a dash.
• Lots of real controls and switches that really do things that you need.
• Although I was against having the HVAC controls linked to an LCD touch screen, it has proven itself effective with enough manual controls.
• Having a USB A style plug is acceptable for intefacing with IOS Auto, since it is the most standardized connector in history, There are also USB-C connections avalable for charging.
• It should always be a RWD with LSD car the way that god intended. If you prefer the AWD, thats on you. More parts to go wrong.

Dislikes:

• The entertainment system is dated, even by Boomer standards. The controls are opposite on the wheel from my G80 which is peculiar.
• This is not a G70 specific issue, but I have never seen a wireless phone charger that actually works with a phone case on it.
• The rear seat has insufficient room to seat a human when I am driving. This is common for what I consider a BMW 3 series car size. To be fair I never used the carrying capacity of my G80. I see it now as wasted space 97% of the time. A Sunroof delete option would improve the seating situation.
• The dual function Tach/Turning turn signal enabled rear quarter view is not intuitive. There are other audible/tactile indicators that are more useful already in the car. A functional mechanical tach would be better appreciated. The disappearing tach redline in normal driving mode is problematic.
• The Sunroof? I don;t know because it has never been opened, very much the same way my G80's was never opened. An extra expense without purpose.
• The wheels/rims on the 2020 G80 Sport, in the black pattern were perfect by every standard. Really stunning. The new G70 should have just used them. New does not equate to better.

Summation:
If you built the G70 just like mine for eternity, I would buy it over and over again. That is how much you got correct on this fine car. Add the 2020 G80 wheels, and ditch the combo tach for a real one. One thing that manufacturers have missed and it is not just Genesis, the BMW is an abortion... Please in future models PLEASE make the gauges increase clockwise. My spedometer does but the tach is a mirror of what would be correct. A 100 years of cars using that method leaves a lasting impression.

My history: Two of my very close friends purchased cars with digital dashes. A BMW M550 had to replace the dash due to total failure at 5,400 miles at a cost of $5900.00 (under warranty). My second friend had a beautiful Cadillac SUV with an all digital dash. It failed completely on a 1500 mile trip to Florida. No speed, no gas level, no nothing for 1,000 miles. It was replaced by Cadillac three times, and ultimately lemon lawed a refund. Digital dashes are new and unnecessary for proper vehicle function. I have never seem an LCD screen last for more than a few years. The Texas heat is not merciful on electronics and never will be. Sometimes an analog hybrid is a better choice.

______________________________

Help support this site so it can continue supporting you!

 

[jjsC6]

Ok, I have had my 2025 G70 3.3T. for 2 months now. I am just getting out of the break-in period. (Previously a 2020 G80 3.3T Sport)

Likes:

• True stick shift. The new G80 dial is a steaming piece of crap.
• Real gauges, with moving indicators that are mechanical in nature. Big +
• Sport package with a true LSD. Nirvana. Last 4 cars had brake modulated rear wheel traction control. I almost bought a Lexus IS350 for that reason alone.
• Very spirited engine. The throttle curve makes it seem very eager to move.
• The Sport+ mode. When the seatback grabs you, you know good things are going to happen and they do.
• The driver door is correctly sized. What? OK, when you are an aging Boomer like me with recent knee replacements, I can fit in the door. My wifes Mazda CX-50 is problematic.
• The front seats are very comfortable. Excellent adjustability.
• The choice of tires is commendable. I cannot seem to break them loose no motter how hard I try. The Michelin Sport are a FAR CRY better than the absolute crap Continental tires on my G80 Sport. I had to replace multiple Continental tires on my G80 from blowouts, for less than blowout causes. At my cost.
• The multipurpose display was adequtely sized and properly positioned. I hate an iPad for a dash.
• Lots of real controls and switches that really do things that you need.
• Although I was against having the HVAC controls linked to an LCD touch screen, it has proven itself effective with enough manual controls.
• Having a USB A style plug is acceptable for intefacing with IOS Auto, since it is the most standardized connector in history, There are also USB-C connections avalable for charging.
• It should always be a RWD with LSD car the way that god intended. If you prefer the AWD, thats on you. More parts to go wrong.

Dislikes:

• The entertainment system is dated, even by Boomer standards. The controls are opposite on the wheel from my G80 which is peculiar.
• This is not a G70 specific issue, but I have never seen a wireless phone charger that actually works with a phone case on it.
• The rear seat has insufficient room to seat a human when I am driving. This is common for what I consider a BMW 3 series car size. To be fair I never used the carrying capacity of my G80. I see it now as wasted space 97% of the time. A Sunroof delete option would improve the seating situation.
• The dual function Tach/Turning turn signal enabled rear quarter view is not intuitive. There are other audible/tactile indicators that are more useful already in the car. A functional mechanical tach would be better appreciated. The disappearing tach redline in normal driving mode is problematic.
• The Sunroof? I don;t know because it has never been opened, very much the same way my G80's was never opened. An extra expense without purpose.
• The wheels/rims on the 2020 G80 Sport, in the black pattern were perfect by every standard. Really stunning. The new G70 should have just used them. New does not equate to better.

Summation:
If you built the G70 just like mine for eternity, I would buy it over and over again. That is how much you got correct on this fine car. Add the 2020 G80 wheels, and ditch the combo tach for a real one. One thing that manufacturers have missed and it is not just Genesis, the BMW is an abortion... Please in future models PLEASE make the gauges increase clockwise. My spedometer does but the tach is a mirror of what would be correct. A 100 years of cars using that method leaves a lasting impression.

My history: Two of my very close friends purchased cars with digital dashes. A BMW M550 had to replace the dash due to total failure at 5,400 miles at a cost of $5900.00 (under warranty). My second friend had a beautiful Cadillac SUV with an all digital dash. It failed completely on a 1500 mile trip to Florida. No speed, no gas level, no nothing for 1,000 miles. It was replaced by Cadillac three times, and ultimately lemon lawed a refund. Digital dashes are new and unnecessary for proper vehicle function. I have never seem an LCD screen last for more than a few years. The Texas heat is not merciful on electronics and never will be. Sometimes an analog hybrid is a better choice.

On my 24 the rear quarter view in the tach can be turned off, which mine is.


Rear seat room is something we know when we buy it. It’s not a flaw, it is designed to be more of a four door coupe. They made the Kia Stinger bigger for people who want more space.

I agree with some of your comments, but like you it is by far the best car for the money and would be the best if it was $10,000 more.