Parking sensor alert while at complete stop

[mosterneck]

Possible your Toyota had electromagnetic sensors that are not as good as ultrasonic. Think about the logic of how ultrasonic works and you will understand why the get signals from another nearby. The price of a better sensor.

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They give off an ultrasonic signal that reflects back from an object. When another sensor is giving off the same signal it perceives it as bouncing back and reacts. Simple and works well when parking.

They can't figure out 5G cell phone towers and aircraft altimeters either.

If you have a solution for either, Genesis and Boeing would like to hear from you.

Update for everyone on this thread: My dealer said the mother company from S Korea acknowledged the parking sensor malfunction as not performing as designed or intended and is working on a fix. In other words, simply accepting the false positives as an unfixable result of interference from other cars' sensors may be acceptable for you but not for Genesis nor for me.

 

[SuperKing]

This won't be fixed. I have a feeling they told you what you want to hear. This happened with my 2015 Genesis, my 2020 G90 and I'm sure it'll happen to future cars as well. Unless the government increases the spectrum for devices like this, it will continue to happen.

My solution, don't pull into a parking spot so you have to reverse out of it. The sensors only come on if your car's been in R during your current driving session. If you haven't been in R to get out of your parking spot, you shouldn't have this problem and if you did reverse out, just turn it off.

 

[EdP]

Update for everyone on this thread: My dealer said the mother company from S Korea acknowledged the parking sensor malfunction as not performing as designed or intended and is working on a fix. In other words, simply accepting the false positives as an unfixable result of interference from other cars' sensors may be acceptable for you but not for Genesis nor for me.

Good. It's only been on two cars over eight years so I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

 

[Light2000]

This won’t be fixed. Carmakers tout how they can update software ota and whatnot, bring to a dealer or whatever, doesn’t happen. We’re all just testers for software that never gets fixed. Nobody will stop it either.

 

[Andyj]

This won’t be fixed. Carmakers tout how they can update software ota and whatnot, bring to a dealer or whatever, doesn’t happen. We’re all just testers for software that never gets fixed. Nobody will stop it either.

Mongo merely pawn in game of life..

 

[Mcc]

This won't be fixed. I have a feeling they told you what you want to hear.

True.

The sensors only come on if your car's been in R during your current driving session.

No so sure about this. They fire while waiting at a light depending on what car is around (front or side).

 

[SuperKing]

No so sure about this. They fire while waiting at a light depending on what car is around (front or side).

I meant the sensors come when you put the car in reverse and they stay on for the rest of the driving session. If you backed out of a stall or had to back/forth a few times to get out of a parallel spot, your sensors will be on for the rest of your drive. If you got into your car, started it and just drove forward to get out, the sensors shouldn't be on. The next time the BMW/Ford detectors go off in traffic, think about how you left the parking spot and try to remember if you needed to put it in reverse to get out of it.

There are times where I was wondering why my sensors aren't on when I needed it, like in a tight drive through or those angled pull forward parking spots. It was because I didn't put it in reverse for that driving session.

 

[mosterneck]

2019 G80 3.8
parking sensor alert will go off for no reason during a complete stop at red light. No real pattern, could be front or one of the side sensors. Doesn’t do it all the time. Any ideas. Thanks

Update for everyone on this thread: My dealer said the mother company from S Korea acknowledged the parking sensor malfunction as not performing as designed or intended and is working on a fix. In other words, simply accepting the false positives as an unfixable result of interference from other cars' sensors may be acceptable for you but not for Genesis nor for me.

Good. It's only been on two cars over eight years so I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

Only two cars? I must have misunderstood each and every post in this and several other threads.

 

[mosterneck]

This won’t be fixed. Carmakers tout how they can update software ota and whatnot, bring to a dealer or whatever, doesn’t happen. We’re all just testers for software that never gets fixed. Nobody will stop it either.

If it were just the dealer looking into it I would tend to agree. However it is the OEM that is looking into the issue.
I am sure you've heard of Federal Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act? Or the law firm Kimmel & Silverman?

 

[mosterneck]

This won't be fixed. I have a feeling they told you what you want to hear. This happened with my 2015 Genesis, my 2020 G90 and I'm sure it'll happen to future cars as well. Unless the government increases the spectrum for devices like this, it will continue to happen.

My solution, don't pull into a parking spot so you have to reverse out of it. The sensors only come on if your car's been in R during your current driving session. If you haven't been in R to get out of your parking spot, you shouldn't have this problem and if you did reverse out, just turn it off.

There is a button to turn the sensors on & off. When experiencing the malfunction, I will turn them off by using the button. Sometimes I will turn them back on while the conditions for the malfunction are still present just for my own information and the problem still exists in that the car still beeps when there is no obstruction. I'll try your no reverse idea as a test.

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[mosterneck]

It’s odd that I have a 2017 Lexus and it never does that.

Same. My 2008 LS460 never ever had a false alarm with the parking sensors. Not once.

 

[Crito]

Happens on my GV80 too. It's more likely when I'm creeping forward at slow speeds though, so it may be fixable via an OTA update by adjusting the speed at which it auto disables itself. Seems like the cameras on center display stay on too long when I'm pulling out of a parking space. Have to get up to like 5 MPH before they turn off.

 

[EdP]

Update for everyone on this thread: My dealer said the mother company from S Korea acknowledged the parking sensor malfunction as not performing as designed or intended and is working on a fix. In other words, simply accepting the false positives as an unfixable result of interference from other cars' sensors may be acceptable for you but not for Genesis nor for me.

Only two cars? I must have misunderstood each and every post in this and several other threads.

Two cars I've owned. It will react from others though since they all use the same sensors. If you don't get too close they rarely go off. Maybe a few times a year. If you stop where you can still see the tires of the car in front you are usually good.

 

[mosterneck]

It’s odd that I have a 2017 Lexus and it never does that.

My point exactly - my 2008 Lexus never ever did this

 

[mosterneck]

Two cars I've owned. It will react from others though since they all use the same sensors. If you don't get too close they rarely go off. Maybe a few times a year. If you stop where you can still see the tires of the car in front you are usually good.

There is simply no (I mean ZERO) way that Genesis or any other brand of car designed or built a vehicle to behave this way. I understand 100% what is being said that the ultrasonic sensors are being triggered by the ultrasonic signals from other cars' sensors. My question to anyone including the Genesis dealership is: "Are there no other cars in all of South Korea? Did Genesis think that this car would not encounter other cars?" It is a malfunction and not functioning as intended by the car makers. Feel free to accept this performance. I do not.

 

[joegr]

There is simply no (I mean ZERO) way that Genesis or any other brand of car designed or built a vehicle to behave this way. I understand 100% what is being said that the ultrasonic sensors are being triggered by the ultrasonic signals from other cars' sensors. My question to anyone including the Genesis dealership is: "Are there no other cars in all of South Korea? Did Genesis think that this car would not encounter other cars?" It is a malfunction and not functioning as intended by the car makers. Feel free to accept this performance. I do not.

Possibly, they didn't expect that other cars would start powering their reverse ultrasonic sensors when they were not in reverse. It seems like no one used to do that, but now very many new models do, for reasons as yet unknown to me. Have you driven that 2008 Lexus recently, and does it have forward facing sensors? A few years ago, it would have been just fine, because the other cars on the road weren't throwing ultrasonic signals back at it. Now, they do.

 

[EdP]

There is simply no (I mean ZERO) way that Genesis or any other brand of car designed or built a vehicle to behave this way. I understand 100% what is being said that the ultrasonic sensors are being triggered by the ultrasonic signals from other cars' sensors. My question to anyone including the Genesis dealership is: "Are there no other cars in all of South Korea? Did Genesis think that this car would not encounter other cars?" It is a malfunction and not functioning as intended by the car makers. Feel free to accept this performance. I do not.

You do know that Genesis does not make the sensors. Car makers don't make every part on the car. They buy from people like Dana, Bendix, Denso and others. You do not have to accepts the performance, you can turn them off. That is the only choice. Genesis may be faced with the same choice, buy from Brand X or not at all.

 

[Crito]

You do know that Genesis does not make the sensors. Car makers don't make every part on the car. They buy from people like Dana, Bendix, Denso and others. You do not have to accepts the performance, you can turn them off. That is the only choice. Genesis may be faced with the same choice, buy from Brand X or not at all.

Seems to me you're contradicting yourself. Genesis has the choice of using a different supplier, of which there are many. And I have the choice of trading my Genesis in on a Mercedes, which I'm probably going to do very soon.

Anywho, I still think it might be software related though, or there would be other vehicles from other manufacturers experiencing the same issue (since Genesis doesn't make the sensors). When I'm pulling out of a parking spot the front camera and sensors stay on until well over 10 MPH. That just doesn't seem right.

 

[joegr]

... or there would be other vehicles from other manufacturers experiencing the same issue ...

There are, lots of them. Check out the forums for the other brands. They are all starting to have this issue.

 

[EdP]

Seems to me you're contradicting yourself. Genesis has the choice of using a different supplier, of which there are many.

Prove it. Name the companies that make parking sensors. Maybe check the patents and licensing too.