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Possible blown engine.

Wow. No I didn't see it and wish I did.

Something funny going on.

Since this happened, everything has been fine by the way.
 
Whether it meets OEM specifications or not... if it fails, it's your responsibility. Period. Why would Hyundai (or any other manufacturer) assume liability and eat the cost of a new engine because a part they DID NOT make failed? Ridiculous.
It may sound ridiculous, but at least in the USA, the FTC has specifically ruled on this issue, and an owner is not required to use OEM replacement parts to maintain a manufacturer warranty on the car. However, if an after-market part (not OEM) fails and caused damage to the engine, then it is the responsibility of the owner to fix the damage, even if a working version of the after-market part meets specifications. In these cases, the after-market part manufacturer usually says they will warrant any damage their parts cause, although it has be been very difficult for most people to collect on such warranties.

With other cars, I have no problem using after-market filters, but the Genesis filter are rather unique, and I am not even sure there are any after-market filters. Some firms claim to offer them, but they may in-fact be the same as the OEM part and just rebranded, because of the relatively low volume that makes it un-economical for every company to actually make them. I think I paid about $7 for my OEM Genesis oil filter at my dealer, which is quite reasonable IMO.
 
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Wow. No I didn't see it and wish I did.

Something funny going on.

Since this happened, everything has been fine by the way.

How much valve train clatter do you have on cold start up? I live in the Chicago area and we have had some cold mornings. When I turn the TAU over I have a lot of valve clatter for about a minute or so then it goes away but I still feel a bit worried about it.
 
How much valve train clatter do you have on cold start up? I live in the Chicago area and we have had some cold mornings. When I turn the TAU over I have a lot of valve clatter for about a minute or so then it goes away but I still feel a bit worried about it.

When I was in Roswell NM in early December, the morning temperatures were anywhere from 11F to 25F every morning when I'd start up. I also had a lot of valve clatter until the engine warmed up a bit.

The other thing I noticed when it was real cold was the DIS Display Screen was very dim, until the interior warmed up.

My Genesis does not like cold weather. (No problems in the cold with the Continental, [no valve clacking] however it does not have the electronics either).
 
The Borrego is also not a fan of the cold either.
 
Well I have some great news to report. Still diving into the details and the answer I was given has sparked a few other questions but the bottom line is, the engine is fine. Nothing cracked or broken but I would have lost a ton of money on a bet when this first happened, based on the noise coming out of that engine!

Seems I was caught in a perfect BAD loop. Between the cold and the circumstances of the progression of the issue, I actually exacerbated the problem by doing what anyone else would do.

Here is the deal. Car was cold, started it and moved it about 15 feet, without letting it warm up or finish what I call the "high idle" process. Car sat for several hours in the even colder weather and then I started it and moved it back into the garage (about another 15 feet). That is when I first smelled an odor. No smoke or noise at this point.

Car sits for several more hours (getting even colder outside) and I go out to start it so we can head to the neighbors. Start the car, son comes out and sees a cloud of smoke and I immediately shut off the car. I check under the car and under the hood for visible signs of leaks but see nothing.

I then proceed to start the car one more time, smoke immediately comes out the exhaust so I do what came natural. I shut the car off. Too dark to see much in the garage so I decide to look at it the next day.

VERY cold now. I start the car and that is when I heard the nasty "something has come apart" noise I described as sounding like a broken valve spring. So what do I do? I immediately shut off the car, like any sane rational person would do. I sit for a few minutes, call the wife out to the garage and ask her to take a listen. Start the car up and same noise, same smoke so again, I immediately cut the car off.

Rollback comes to get it yesterday and they have been looking at it every since.

Dealer diagnosis (with help from the Hyundai tech folks to confirm)?

It seems that in some instances, on very short starts and stops (garage to driveway and vice versa) there could be some unspent fuel in the cylinders. The first time I saw smoke, that is what I was seeing as it tried to burn it off. I simply compounded the situation by cutting it on and off as I stated above. Evidently, it had so much unspent fuel in it at that point that it made the nasty noises as it stumbled to run and get it right.

They have been driving it with no problem for the better part of the day and I am getting ready to pick it up but it does make me wonder if there might be something brewing with the electronics of the fuel delivery system.

We shall see but like I said, the engine is fine and for that I am very happy!!

Downside? I didn't even get to lobby for the new higher HP engine. :mad: :D

This exact same thing just happened with my Borrego AGAIN the other day. My what a racket that motor made on startup. I also just moved the truck a few feet three times within a few hours.
 
This exact same thing just happened with my Borrego AGAIN the other day. My what a racket that motor made on startup. I also just moved the truck a few feet three times within a few hours.

Same here, minus smoke. Car's at dealership since yesterday.

Probably need to combine the threads, they are about what looks like same or very similar issue.
 
What you had happen is very close to what mine did. I posted under the thread "shakes & rattles" about this and a few other folks have experienced this. It does sound nasty and the black smoke is scary.

I haven't see much else about it on this forum, but my dealer showed a "misfire" code that was thrown P0300 (and another guy in that other thread had this same code). In my case, they reprogrammed the ECM and there is a TSB on this (10-FL-015), so maybe it's common.
 
I have never heard of a warranty claim being denied because you changed your own oil. As long as you have records (sales recipes) for materials you are good.

On my other car an oil change cost around $100 at the dealership. I do it myself with an OEM filter and Mobil 1 for $32. Not paying their inflated fee and am not worried about my warranty.

You can't beat Mobil 1 oil. It is better than what the dealer puts in it. It comes in Corvettes and that's what they want you to use.
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