Hello All. I have been following the posts on this forum for some time now and I am very interested in the Hyundai Genesis. I will likely be buying sometime in September for tax reasons (unless I were to get a truly great deal prior to that. I have read with great interest recent posts about potential suspension issue, electronics issues, strange buzzing in the steering column, etc. I know that we all react differently to noises and issues, and regardless of whether or not the issues are "real" or simply perceived, they are almost always important and frustrating for the person experiencing them. For those of you that are experiencing these posted issues, I would love to know how the dealers are handling them. One thing I am trying to keep in mind si that people who join forums such as these are generally a vast minority of the owners of a given vehicle. We tend to be a bit more fanatical, picky, choosey, educated on the vehicle, and overall, a great group of folks. Now, on to my questions.
Suspension Issues: In my experience, how a car hadles all of the possible road conditions is a based on spring rates, shock dampening, and wheelbase. I had a Subaru Legacy GT that would bounce fairly roughly over a certain patch of road near my home; however, my current 2005 VW Passat TDI handles this stretch as though the road was glass. There is a stretch of road that does seem to unsettle my Passat that never impacted my Subaru or any other vehicle I have owned. Every vehicle I have ever owned has had some stretch of road that has upset the ride or at least made me aware of something I had never experienced before in another vehicle. Is this what we are talking about here? Or is this something that truly makes the car unsafe? I ask, because in all of the reading I have done from every review, I have read in a couple articles, that the suspension can bottom out easily when pressed into "sport sedan" duty, however, every article I have read follows up this comment that that is not the duty the Genisis is inteded for. So I have not read anything that has said or even hinted that the Genesis supsension makes the car unsafe in any way...only that there is room for improvement to attain a sports sedan rating.
Tech Package/Electrical: I am more concerned about issues I have read where the tech package fails to start or stops responding after certain functions are used, often requiring the vehicle to be turned off, a period of time to elapse, then it works for a while and then repeats the process. Electrical gremlins are for more troubling to me than the suspension issues. Does anyone have any idea how widespread these problems are? Are there folks out there experiencing issues with no-Tech Genesis? There really are not that "many" different users on this site posting these issues, but, many may not be using all of the functions or combinations. With today's electronics in vehicles, it would really be terrible to buy a vehicle and have electrical issues. I remember an MG I had in the mid 70's...every time I would go over a significant bump, the windshield wipers would make a pass accross the windshield and sometime the motor would just die....never could find that one.
Lexicon Stereos: Is the difference really that great between the PP package and Tech? Does the PP sound bad? better than most? as good as others? just not as good the the Tech? I asked a tech at a Hyundai dealership and he told me that essentially, the speakers are the same in both cars, but the Tech package has a midrange speaker in each of the front doors and an additional tweeter in the front dash. In talking with Lexicon, the Discrete amplifier only comes into play with DVD source materials, as this function aloows for the the DSP to process the 5.1 surropund into 7.1 surround. According to Lexicon, CD material should sound virtually identical on both of these systems as both systems have the ability to process two channel stero signals into a "surround sound" matrix and both systems use the same circuitry for this function. Both Lexicon systems have 528 watts of power. I have read many postings about this on this site and other sites and have a wide variety of opinions here. I am not sure I really want the tech package although there are some things I like in it (Xenons, integrated bluetooth). I sure wish Hyundai would make these stand alone options like other manufacturers, or, just make them standard (i.e. Acura)...maybe 2010?
Alignment: This is probably my biggest concern of all. I had a Honda Accord back in the late 80's that just never seemed to track straight. It was terrible. I drove other examples of that vehicle and the all drove like they were riding on rails. Not mine. It started off good then began pulling to the left just as many report here. It truly was not a sensitivity crowns, or tires.Ther was just something out of whack in this particular car. Never got that resolved, and, subsequently, have never bought another Honda product. I read one posting where the dealer was intructed by Hyundai to "reposition the subframe." This is outrageous. There is no way a dealer would have the lasers and or equipment to even aproach the fine adjustments that would be required to successfully accomplish this. This sounds more like an early production glitch where cars the robots must have been a bit out of whack at the factory. How many are really experienceing this and, were you an early purchaser? Is this problem showing up on more recently built vehicles?
Sorry about the length of this post, but I really do like the Genesis and have become somewhat confused with many of the posts I have read. I will no doubt have additional questions for you owners out there as time goes on.
Thanks in advance for your input. This is a really great forum.
Suspension Issues: In my experience, how a car hadles all of the possible road conditions is a based on spring rates, shock dampening, and wheelbase. I had a Subaru Legacy GT that would bounce fairly roughly over a certain patch of road near my home; however, my current 2005 VW Passat TDI handles this stretch as though the road was glass. There is a stretch of road that does seem to unsettle my Passat that never impacted my Subaru or any other vehicle I have owned. Every vehicle I have ever owned has had some stretch of road that has upset the ride or at least made me aware of something I had never experienced before in another vehicle. Is this what we are talking about here? Or is this something that truly makes the car unsafe? I ask, because in all of the reading I have done from every review, I have read in a couple articles, that the suspension can bottom out easily when pressed into "sport sedan" duty, however, every article I have read follows up this comment that that is not the duty the Genisis is inteded for. So I have not read anything that has said or even hinted that the Genesis supsension makes the car unsafe in any way...only that there is room for improvement to attain a sports sedan rating.
Tech Package/Electrical: I am more concerned about issues I have read where the tech package fails to start or stops responding after certain functions are used, often requiring the vehicle to be turned off, a period of time to elapse, then it works for a while and then repeats the process. Electrical gremlins are for more troubling to me than the suspension issues. Does anyone have any idea how widespread these problems are? Are there folks out there experiencing issues with no-Tech Genesis? There really are not that "many" different users on this site posting these issues, but, many may not be using all of the functions or combinations. With today's electronics in vehicles, it would really be terrible to buy a vehicle and have electrical issues. I remember an MG I had in the mid 70's...every time I would go over a significant bump, the windshield wipers would make a pass accross the windshield and sometime the motor would just die....never could find that one.
Lexicon Stereos: Is the difference really that great between the PP package and Tech? Does the PP sound bad? better than most? as good as others? just not as good the the Tech? I asked a tech at a Hyundai dealership and he told me that essentially, the speakers are the same in both cars, but the Tech package has a midrange speaker in each of the front doors and an additional tweeter in the front dash. In talking with Lexicon, the Discrete amplifier only comes into play with DVD source materials, as this function aloows for the the DSP to process the 5.1 surropund into 7.1 surround. According to Lexicon, CD material should sound virtually identical on both of these systems as both systems have the ability to process two channel stero signals into a "surround sound" matrix and both systems use the same circuitry for this function. Both Lexicon systems have 528 watts of power. I have read many postings about this on this site and other sites and have a wide variety of opinions here. I am not sure I really want the tech package although there are some things I like in it (Xenons, integrated bluetooth). I sure wish Hyundai would make these stand alone options like other manufacturers, or, just make them standard (i.e. Acura)...maybe 2010?
Alignment: This is probably my biggest concern of all. I had a Honda Accord back in the late 80's that just never seemed to track straight. It was terrible. I drove other examples of that vehicle and the all drove like they were riding on rails. Not mine. It started off good then began pulling to the left just as many report here. It truly was not a sensitivity crowns, or tires.Ther was just something out of whack in this particular car. Never got that resolved, and, subsequently, have never bought another Honda product. I read one posting where the dealer was intructed by Hyundai to "reposition the subframe." This is outrageous. There is no way a dealer would have the lasers and or equipment to even aproach the fine adjustments that would be required to successfully accomplish this. This sounds more like an early production glitch where cars the robots must have been a bit out of whack at the factory. How many are really experienceing this and, were you an early purchaser? Is this problem showing up on more recently built vehicles?
Sorry about the length of this post, but I really do like the Genesis and have become somewhat confused with many of the posts I have read. I will no doubt have additional questions for you owners out there as time goes on.
Thanks in advance for your input. This is a really great forum.
