R-Spec VS. Audi A6 VS. Jag XF

[newman]

Hi Folks - I am leaning strongly toward an R-Spec when they arrive but am cross shopping an Audi A6 (2011 model due to good deals) and Jaguar XF.

As I have not bought a car for 10 years I am spending a good amount of time on my homework. I currently drive an '02 Acura TL type S.

Any thoughts on these cars are appreciated. Particularly if you have cross-shopped them as well or own one.

For the Audi I like the paddle shifters and AWD. With the Jag it is all about the sweet exterior. The R-Spec looks to be the best all around vehicle for my wants and needs (the former being a far longer list than the latter).

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Newman

 

[Glashub]

Since you seem to buy a car every 10 years, I'd say reliability is important. Neither Audi or Jag impress there.

 

[NYCGPS]

^^what he said

Unless you have so much free time on your hand and it's ok to spend 2 months in a year just to bring the car to Audi dealership to get things "fix." do NOT get any Audi(or VW)

 

[Mark_888]

I might throw the new 2012 TL AWD in the mix for consideration. It looks a lot better than the one released in 2009. Hard to beat Acura for dependability. Of course, after 10 years, I can understand that you may want to try a different brand.

 

[newman]

Agree that the new TL SH-AWD is a strong contender. Except for the looks, which are a deal breaker. To me this year simply 'sucks less'. It would be too big a down grade from my 02 TL with factory wing and body kits.

 

[Gambler]

When I got mine, I cross-shopped against a used BMW 5, used Mercedes S, new Genesis, all right around the same price. The Genesis was such a great car that it wasn't worth going used for me to get the prestige of the others. For you it will come down to price. I have to admit, I do like the Jag's look though!

 

[STREETS]

BUT it is a Jag. Nothing ages faster or enjoys vacationing with a mechanic with its bonnet up like a Jag!

 

[robthoke]

I've owned Two A6's - both were 4.2L. Nice cars, however the second one had a tranny that had a mind of it's own. After 3 times in the shop and spending over a month back at the dealership, I was told that it's behavior was normal. Funny though, they changed the tranny the next year. I changed cars. I've never owned a Jag and I'm told that it's time with Ford was more positive then negative. They are beautiful inside and out, but for the money and warranty I'd go with the R Spec.

 

[Ruissimo]

NEVER AGAIN WILL I OWN A GERMAN CAR. I might lease one, though.

Almost bought a Jaguar X-Type in 2001... but the nearest dealer was 45 minutes to an hour away, and I figured it'd probably be spending lots of quality time there... little did I know, my German car did that very thing.

R-SPEC.

 

[tonygxp]

the thing that sold me on the genesis was the LACK of mechanical problems i could find on them. only problem that seemed to pop up was the ride quality, which i never found to be an issue after a bunch of test drives and even an entire day with a 1500mi loaner (V6).

So only you can be the judge after driving them. but for me i couldn't see spending the $$ on the Audi or Jag when the Genesis gives you 90% of those cars (and in some cases more than 100%) for way less cash. it's nice looking, plain and simple inside adding to its elegance and has the best warranty around. for you that will be a wonderful bonus owning cars as long as you do. keep us informed, that R-Spec is sweet.

also the DIS knob controller problems in the early builds but i haven't heard of any recently?

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[JckOfSpds]

Before getting my Genesis, I looked at:

1.) Jaguar XF
2.) BMW 535
3.) Audi A6

While I love the look of the Jag, its reliability leaves much to be desired, so had to nix that one first.

I used to own an Audi S4, loved it, had few mechanical problems, but when I did need something on it fixed, it was an arm and a leg. Didn't feel like getting hit with those kinds of meechanical bills again, so no A6.

My father got the new, fully loaded 535 and I got to drive his, then took the Genesis for a test drive. While I do like the Bimmer, I just could not justify spending that much more to get (or going with a used one when I can get a brand new Genesis for a great price).

 

[tonygxp]

Before getting my Genesis, I looked at:

1.) Jaguar XF
2.) BMW 535
3.) Audi A6

While I love the look of the Jag, its reliability leaves much to be desired, so had to nix that one first.

I used to own an Audi S4, loved it, had few mechanical problems, but when I did need something on it fixed, it was an arm and a leg. Didn't feel like getting hit with those kinds of meechanical bills again, so no A6.

My father got the new, fully loaded 535 and I got to drive his, then took the Genesis for a test drive. While I do like the Bimmer, I just could not justify spending that much more to get (or going with a used one when I can get a brand new Genesis for a great price).

that's the story here. the value to be had with a genesis out weighs all others and in the end if these questions come up, it's because money (value) is on your mind. unless you have a large disposable income you want a higher percentage value vs product, otherwise we would all be driving S65's lol...

 

[Glashub]

Agree that the new TL SH-AWD is a strong contender. Except for the looks, which are a deal breaker. To me this year simply 'sucks less'. It would be too big a down grade from my 02 TL with factory wing and body kits.

Don't preclude it until you drive it. Hung with and actually bettered an S4 on a course if I remember correctly.....for thousands less. But if looks and gadgets are important...get the Genesis.

 

[metalav8b]

Newman,
I'm in the same situation, I want to retire my 10 year old 02' Acura TL-S (which has treated me well), and I've narrowed my top three contenders to the Genesis R-Spec vs. 12' TL SH-AWD vs. 13' Taurus SHO

Although I find the Taurus even uglier than the TL, I do like the Ford My Touch which will be integrated in next year's release of the SHO. I'm leaning towards the Genny with it's sporty performance, sharp looks, good trunk & rear seat space, and exceptional value.

Just awaiting the dealer to call when the R-spec arrives and then I'll test drive all three.

I agree with the others, stay away from Audi/Jag.

Good luck!