Radar Detector

[kimmy77_02]

Any for you guys used a radar detector for you 2nd Gen Genesis???

If so what kind and do you have any issues the the ACC?

 

[Sting_NC_USA]

Valentine One in combination with the Waze app is nearly bulletproof. Multi-directional tracking, bogey counter and solid support. Most other brands have been trying to replicate the quality, and now that V1's patent has expired, others are coming, though they haven't been able to replicate the quality (yet). Oh, and you can upgrade your V1 and customize programming too. Couldn't recommend anything else, and I've tried them all over the years. Happy hunting!

 

[dareckibmw]

That's what I did last week - upgraded my V1, it was 14 years old! still working but picking up lots of false signals, mostly from blind spot sensor.

The upgrade cost me $285 + 15 s/h. It's a brand new unit, though.

 

[MNgen]

Valentine One in combination with the Waze app is nearly bulletproof. Multi-directional tracking, bogey counter and solid support. Most other brands have been trying to replicate the quality, and now that V1's patent has expired, others are coming, though they haven't been able to replicate the quality (yet). Oh, and you can upgrade your V1 and customize programming too. Couldn't recommend anything else, and I've tried them all over the years. Happy hunting!

Ditto on the Valentine One, I have one in each of my vehicles. Don't leave home without it.

 

[Huddleston]

Current setup is a hardwired V1 with AL Priority jammers. ALP system is great as well, you cant even notice the sensors with the design of the grill.

 

[Lord Humunculous]

Yep V1 w/ remote display. Ima install that when I install my mini 0806. Neither will be as hidden (from outside the car) as they were in my volvo (still have an 0803 in the Volvo), but I'm not too concerned yet, havent really had time to do a final fit. But yeah V1 is still the champ. The newest 360 is a fine unit, but it's the size of a frigging triple cheeseburger and I'd rather not have a cheeseburger hanging from the glass.

 

[Aquineas]

I have a V1 (updated within the last year) with hardwire and a Passport Max 2 that's also hardwired. On my car, the V1 picks up both K and Ka band earlier, provided that it's not Pop radar. The Passport Max 2 detects Pop radar far sooner than the V1.

 

[lobsenza]

I actually went from V1 to the Escort Max 360. I had 2 V1 detectors, an original from 1992 and one that was 10 years old. Neither would work in the Genesis because of the new safety features. I looked at upgrading my V1, getting another V1 or getting a Max 360. I was given $120 off of the Max 360 for my 1992 V1.

I picked the Max 360 because I wanted the many additional features it offered over the V1:

• Traffic cameras
• Speed cameras
• Camera updates over the web
• Ability to get software upgrades over the internet.
• The user interface. Much better information on the display
• Ability to eliminate false alarms based on GPS location and radar pattern
• Ability to minimize alerts below a certain speed (I chose 30 MPH)
• Ability to minimize alerts below the speed limit when connected to smart phone via Bluetooth.
• Better false alarm screening
• Automatic muting of alarms after initial alert, if desired.

What are the negatives:

• Cost. It is $530 with my trade in.
• The arrows are not as responsive. I did ask about this and this is partially a software issue and partially by design. This will likely be changed on a future software download.

I thought long and hard about this before switching. I felt that even though V1 internals have been upgraded many times since my original unit, I felt the display and user interface was very dated. I actually was patiently waiting for V1 to upgrade their user interface and add GPS functionality when the Max 360 came out. I think the GPS functionality adds a lot to the radar detector.

I did take the Max 360 on a 1400 mile trip and it worked very well. I like connecting my smart phone for long trips and using the detector solo for driving around town.

 

[Huddleston]

I actually went from V1 to the Escort Max 360. I had 2 V1 detectors, an original from 1992 and one that was 10 years old. Neither would work in the Genesis because of the new safety features. I looked at upgrading my V1, getting another V1 or getting a Max 360. I was given $120 off of the Max 360 for my 1992 V1.

I picked the Max 360 because I wanted the many additional features it offered over the V1:

• Traffic cameras
• Speed cameras
• Camera updates over the web
• Ability to get software upgrades over the internet.
• The user interface. Much better information on the display
• Ability to eliminate false alarms based on GPS location and radar pattern
• Ability to minimize alerts below a certain speed (I chose 30 MPH)
• Ability to minimize alerts below the speed limit when connected to smart phone via Bluetooth.
• Better false alarm screening
• Automatic muting of alarms after initial alert, if desired.

What are the negatives:

• Cost. It is $530 with my trade in.
• The arrows are not as responsive. I did ask about this and this is partially a software issue and partially by design. This will likely be changed on a future software download.

I thought long and hard about this before switching. I felt that even though V1 internals have been upgraded many times since my original unit, I felt the display and user interface was very dated. I actually was patiently waiting for V1 to upgrade their user interface and add GPS functionality when the Max 360 came out. I think the GPS functionality adds a lot to the radar detector.

I did take the Max 360 on a 1400 mile trip and it worked very well. I like connecting my smart phone for long trips and using the detector solo for driving around town.

nice to hear another take on the max 360. I have been looking at picking one up for use on rallies.

 

[StarPower]

I pick up signals from other cars' sensors, but they're pretty obvious once you get used to them. I've noticed a couple when I can't seem to find another car, but it hasn't happened frequently enough to know if it's from the Genesis's sensors or not.

I've been using a Max 360 wired into the mirror. Here's a link with the instructions if anybody else is interested. My overall impression of the detector is that the GPS integration is convenient, sensitivity is good (it alerts me well in advance) and it has a nice, linear ramp-up rate. The arrows, however, are too slow to be useful. If you want the GPS features, you could save some money if you consider the Max 2 (same GPS features as the Max 360 without the directional arrows). I don't know how the sensitivity of the Max 2 compares to the 360 without the additional sensor.

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[Aquineas]

One other note, something about GM's latest electronics sets off K band alerts on both my detectors. My wife's Acadia Denali always triggers a constant false positive if I'm behind her.

 

[lobsenza]

I just received an email from Escort saying that they will have a software update in the next few weeks that will greatly improve false alarm regjection, especially those from vehicle collision systems. All owners will be able to download the update by connecting your Max 360 to your computer.

That is one of the benefits that I like about the Max 360.

 

[ahearn]

I know I'm not answering your question but I stopped using my Escort detector when I discovered the Waze app for my iPhone. There are so many dedicated Waze users out there now that I know about every police location long before they have a chance to hit me with a laser. This only works on well traveled highways, not so much for less traveled roads.

 

[Huddleston]

I know I'm not answering your question but I stopped using my Escort detector when I discovered the Waze app for my iPhone. There are so many dedicated Waze users out there now that I know about every police location long before they have a chance to hit me with a laser. This only works on well traveled highways, not so much for less traveled roads.

The best countermeasures are a combination of a quality detector, waze, and jammers if you live in a state that uses laser.

 

[Brooklynk5]

The Bel Sti Magnum radar

 

[Rloyola0426]

I'm on the fence between a v1 and the max2 or 360 myself. Those of you with the passports, is it really necessary to get the 360 over the max2? For people who have used both the v1 and the passports, is the implementation of gps in the passports really the game changer that supposedly made the v1 obsolete?

I like the v1's arrows and although the 360 now also has the arrows, I feel $600 is a lot. With that said, if it really is that much better, then it is worth the money. But if it is just marketing fluff and you can get 95% of function for 75% price for a lesser yet just as capable rd, I'm all for that too.

 

[Aquineas]

I'm on the fence between a v1 and the max2 or 360 myself. Those of you with the passports, is it really necessary to get the 360 over the max2? For people who have used both the v1 and the passports, is the implementation of gps in the passports really the game changer that supposedly made the v1 obsolete?

I like the v1's arrows and although the 360 now also has the arrows, I feel $600 is a lot. With that said, if it really is that much better, then it is worth the money. But if it is just marketing fluff and you can get 95% of function for 75% price for a lesser yet just as capable rd, I'm all for that too.

Reggie, Waze makes the Passport's GPS obsolete. It has far FAR more users, is updated more often, doesn't require a subscription, and doesn't have separate BT connectors for iPhone vs. Android. The biggest advantage my Passport has over my V1 is alerting and identifying Pop radar. V1 claims to do it, but for whatever reason, sometimes it doesn't, and when it does, it's usually after my Passport Max.

 

[Rloyola0426]

So would a V1 paired with waze be a good setup? I've read that the V1 falses a lot, especially now that many cars have adaptive cruise control and blind spot monitoring.

Even the original max paired with waze sounds like it would work fine.

This question has been racking my brain and I feel like I've been reading everything but I'm having a hard time sorting through what's fluff and what's not.

 

[Aquineas]

Generally speaking, you are correct that the V1 does false more, particularly on K band, although GM adaptive-cruise/blind-spot sets off both Passport and V1 detectors.

As far as Waze, it's honestly better than the Escort Live app, but Waze doesn't automatically integrate as well as Escort Live. Nevertheless, my Escort Live subscription is still active, but I choose to run Waze. In my 2+ years running Escort Live, I think I may have been notified about LEOs maybe 10 times total.

 

[lobsenza]

The newer versions of the V1 and the Max 360 have reduced falsing for new automotive electronics.

I have used the V1 for years. I bought the original in 1992 and bought a new one about 9 years ago. The newer V1 did not work in my Genesis because of falsing from the forward collision system. I was faced up with the choice of upgrading/replacing my V1 with another V1 or a Max 360. The upgrade path for the V1 was expensive. My major objections to the new V1 is no alerts for red light cameras, speed cameras, an outdated interface, upgrades are expensive and excessive false alarms. The Max 360 is much better on all of these. The drawback to the Max 360 is the arrows are slow to respond and I think there is a marginal loss in sensitivity.

I bought the Max 360 and am very happy with it. A software upgrade is due to be released shortly to improve false alarm rejection including from collision avoidance systems. The upgrade is free and will be downloadable from your computer. So are camera and speed trap notifications. I have had no issues with the current software, but I will upgrade when it is available. Supposedly they are upgrading the software to improve arrow performance as well.

The Max 360 quiets alarms below a certain speed, if desired. It also pairs with your smartphone to give you speed limit data and has an optional alert if you go x miles over the speed limit. it also alerts to customer notified speed traps (I believe within the last hour). This is a nice plus, but not huge because the number of users reporting is too low. Waze is better in that respect and can be used in conjunction with either detector.

I received a $120 credit off of my purchase for my 1992 V1. This detector was so old that it was worthless to me, so $120 was found money. I do keep my 8 year old V1 mounted in one of my older vehicles without collision avoidance. I disabled X band and POP to make the false alarms in that vehicle tolerable.

The deciding factor for me was that the V1 has been updated internally, but the display, user interface are from 1992. The GPS adds a lot of functionality including identifying the signature of false alarms using the GPS location, red light cameras, speed alerts, speed cameras. All of this is missing in the V1. Waze is good, but I do not want to use a smartphone in conjunction with a dector for around town driving. I do use both on long trips.

I did get 3 Escort live alerts and numerous air patrol alerts on a 1200 mile trip.

I hope this helps.