Removing scratches from tempered glass

[Ambush]

Genny family

Yesterday I made a small mistake as I was removing my old window tint to apply new by not changing my blade in my olfa knife. I accidentally scratched my driver's rear window (scratches I should say). They are fine scratches and they are not deep. I was told by a glass shop you cant fix it but I read some places where you can. The shop quoted me $250.00 to install a new glass!!!!! Sheez..
So, today I got some Scratch X and it seemed to help a little bit but what do you think? Should I try to look for another glass, call the insurance company or would they only do chips/breaks?

Sigh, I tint often and this time I was rushing. What a mistake.

Thanks

Ambush

 

[OneFunGenesis]

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[LandoAWD]

250 is cheap if it's parts/labor...

 

[The Ruckus]

Check the stamp in the corner of the window; it will confirm for you whether or not you've got tempered or laminate windows. Dollar to a hole in a doughnut says it's laminate, because I just went through replacing one that was hit by a rock from a lawnmower. Interesting education on the benefits and liabilities of laminated glass. It's pretty badass stuff - just don't drive it into a pond and expect those little pointy glass hammers to do anything worthwhile in an escape.

Money wise, the dealership told me that my passenger side front door window is about a $600 piece of glass, and they were looking at about $130/hr labor. My insurance company farmed the glass work out to Link Services, who used non-OEM glass and offers the shops a crap "take it or leave it" labor rate for the work ($30/hr labor), making it extremely inconvenient to use the dealership for the installation. I ended up using Gerber Collision and Glass My deductible on it was $100.

From previous experience, an "elective" replacement isn't covered; I had new metal welded into the A-pillars of my 4runner several years ago, which required windshield removal. It had a small, but repaired, chip. I was told that if the glass broke, I would be on the hook for full replacement ($800-900), since I was effectively causing the window to be removed and risking breakage. I told them sometimes hammers fall out of truck beds when you drive down the road. They called back and said they found a replacement windshield for $100, no need to have an accident. But hey, accidents happen all the time.

Another idea to research with laminate glass; I know a buddy of mine used to hand-buff his windshield with fine steel wool and a consistent trickle of water from a garden hose. It took out the little stuff, and made water run off it better than rain-x. It may be something that could be done to laminate side windows as well, but I'd do some research first. Especially being a scratch inside the car, where you don't want to run a hose and douse your electrical components.

 

[Ambush]

Funny the rear windows are tempered glass. I just checked as it says it under the little Hyundai writing in the corner. The front windows say Laminated. Strange no?

Sigh. I will try and call Geico to see what they say.

Thanks for the input guys...

 

[The Ruckus]

Funny the rear windows are tempered glass. I just checked as it says it under the little Hyundai writing in the corner. The front windows say Laminated. Strange no?

Sigh. I will try and call Geico to see what they say.

Thanks for the input guys...

I just went out and checked mine as well; wouldn't you know it, laminated fronts, tempered rears. Maybe the approach was road noise control up front/cost savings in the back.

The good news is, you scratched the less expensive one

 

[Ambush]

I just went out and checked mine as well; wouldn't you know it, laminated fronts, tempered rears. Maybe the approach was road noise control up front/cost savings in the back.

The good news is, you scratched the less expensive one

HAHAHAHAAHH!! Yes what relief!

is it 100% to go laminate all around you think?

 

[Ambush]

UPDATE and the last one. Called my insurance company and they said since my car is insured in SC, there is a no fee glass replacement no questions asked for the entire car any window!!!

I AM SO HAPPY!
YES YES!!

Whooo hoo!

 

[MathWiz]

UPDATE and the last one. Called my insurance company and they said since my car is insured in SC, there is a no fee glass replacement no questions asked for the entire car any window!!!

I AM SO HAPPY!
YES YES!!

Whooo hoo!

Yes, but your insurance rate will go up upon renewal, because how dare you actually make a claim and make them spend money.

I once hit a pot hole full of water on a rainy night, I never saw it because of the wet road. It bent both wheels on the left size of the car and knocked the front and rear out of alignment. My insurance tried to double my rate because it cost more than 1000 to fix my car, they charged me as having an accident. They said I collided with the road way, I changed insurance companies the same day.

Charles

 

[Ambush]

Yes, but your insurance rate will go up upon renewal, because how dare you actually make a claim and make them spend money.

I once hit a pot hole full of water on a rainy night, I never saw it because of the wet road. It bent both wheels on the left size of the car and knocked the front and rear out of alignment. My insurance tried to double my rate because it cost more than 1000 to fix my car, they charged me as having an accident. They said I collided with the road way, I changed insurance companies the same day.

Charles

Nope it will not go up because that is apparently the way it is setup for SC drivers who are insured. It does not impact rate at all.
My wife hit a ladder that fell off a truck in front of her on the interstate. It ripped the bumper up pretty bad. Paid $50 and they replaced the entire bumper. Rate did not go up at all. Im pretty happy with my insurance at this point.

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[OneFunGenesis]

They said I collided with the road way,
Charles

Hahahahahahahaha. Oh god that is good.

 

[The Ruckus]

is it 100% to go laminate all around you think?

It would provide a significant security upgrade, but part of me believes there is a reason that they didn't do it all the way around.



I've read up a little on it, and from what I understand, the movement towards laminate glass in premium and euro-based vehicles is changing the way that first responders are trained to clear a vehicle. Some are even trained to take a saw to the glass, because bashing it with blunt objects (or event sharp, like an axe) may allow small, regional penetration, but doesn't blow it out of the way as it would with tempered. It goes from a rigid surface to almost fabric-like, because of the rubber membrane between the layers of glass. Laminate glass is great in roll-overs, since it doesn't blow out-- it keeps limbs and entire passengers from being ejected. It helps prevent/deter the completion of smash & grab thefts.

now that I am aware that there's tempered in the back, I'm glad to know there's at least a better chance of getting my family out of the car in a submersion. But, then again, these are only things you worry about if you live on/near lakes, rivers, streams, ocean, etc. This seems to be the only major "minus" that I've read about in use of laminate glass; lack of passenger awareness/preparedness for dealing with rapid evacuation when the doors don't work.

 

[srobak]

They said I collided with the road way

Hahahahahahahaha. Oh god that is good.

Don't laugh too hard - this actually is not the first time I have heard of this. In 2010 a friend of mine who was a lifelong customer with State Farm (and the same agent) got smacked by them because he too hit a pothole in his 6 month old X5 and bent 2 rims. They told him the exact same thing, calling it a collision & said it was an actual "accident". Dafuq???

the movement towards laminate glass in premium and euro-based vehicles is changing the way that first responders are trained to clear a vehicle. Some are even trained to take a saw to the glass

Ex FF & LEO here - This isn't entirely new - as windshields have been laminated since the 60's. For decades diamond-edged glass saws have been on rescue trucks for cutting out the windshield when using a Hurst on the pillars to remove the roof or gaining access otherwise through the front screen. Applying that to the side and/or rear windows is newish, however - but it is at least familiar territory.

 

[Ambush]

Just as I thought everything was going well, I get to the shop today the guy takes off the panel everything great! 10 mins! He was about to remove the regulator's screw and apparently the glass has been replaced before (we saw pieces of glass in the door). I did not notice that there was no Hyundai symbol/DOT on that side! All glass has to have that. He pointed it out. He did not want to drill it out and cause any damage to that one little screw. He suggested I get a new regulator replace it and then come back. I was so heated!! He was really nice about it too.

The window goes up and down but it is not the correct glass. NOW I know why the rear rattles a bit. OMG!

Thank you all for your listening to me to vent.

 

[Ambush]

don't laugh too hard - this actually is not the first time i have heard of this. In 2010 a friend of mine who was a lifelong customer with state farm (and the same agent) got smacked by them because he too hit a pothole in his 6 month old x5 and bent 2 rims. They told him the exact same thing, calling it a collision & said it was an actual "accident". Dafuq???



Ex ff & leo here - this isn't entirely new - as windshields have been laminated since the 60's. For decades diamond-edged glass saws have been on rescue trucks for cutting out the windshield when using a hurst on the pillars to remove the roof or gaining access otherwise through the front screen. Applying that to the side and/or rear windows is newish, however - but it is at least familiar territory.

--- yeah state farm blows! I left them after 11 years...
---wow...

 

[MathWiz]

Don't laugh too hard - this actually is not the first time I have heard of this. In 2010 a friend of mine who was a lifelong customer with State Farm (and the same agent) got smacked by them because he too hit a pothole in his 6 month old X5 and bent 2 rims. They told him the exact same thing, calling it a collision & said it was an actual "accident". Dafuq???

Yep, it was State Farm for me too, it must be a policy for them.

Charles