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Rough idle

gescalera68

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Good Morning,

My 2015 3.8 has a little bit of a rough idle, the engine smooths out at speed, and it's most noticeable at cold start.

Would adding a fuel system treatment on my next fill up help?

or does the asperated engine a sound that way to untrained ears
 
Good Morning,

My 2015 3.8 has a little bit of a rough idle, the engine smooths out at speed, and it's most noticeable at cold start.

Would adding a fuel system treatment on my next fill up help?

or does the asperated engine a sound that way to untrained ears
Some engines to sound a bit rough at a cold start. We can't hear your so can't say for sure.

Fuel treatments can help and is a cheap way to try. It will take a bit of driving to get through the system to work. Of course, there are many other possible reasons too.
 
Good Morning,

My 2015 3.8 has a little bit of a rough idle, the engine smooths out at speed, and it's most noticeable at cold start.

Would adding a fuel system treatment on my next fill up help?

or does the asperated engine a sound that way to untrained ears
I would try using premium gas and see it helps the engine run smoother. My 2015 5.0 engine ran like crap with the regular gas that the dealership put in it for my test drive(salesman stopped at a Racetrack to fill during the test drive). It idled rough and felt a bit sluggish with the 87 octane. However, I took a gamble by buying the car hoping the that the engine would feel stronger with premium fuel and was not disappointed. The engine runs buttery smooth at idle with Shell 93 octane.
 
I would try using premium gas and see it helps the engine run smoother. My 2015 5.0 engine ran like crap with the regular gas that the dealership put in it for my test drive(salesman stopped at a Racetrack to fill during the test drive). It idled rough and felt a bit sluggish with the 87 octane. However, I took a gamble by buying the car hoping the that the engine would feel stronger with premium fuel and was not disappointed. The engine runs buttery smooth at idle with Shell 93 octane.
I've always run premium in my 5.0. Every now & again, I'll chuck in a bottle of Techtron for good measure...
 
I have also noticed smoother idle when using premium. I also add Techtron once every fill ups.
 
I have also noticed smoother idle when using premium. I also add Techtron once every fill ups.
I too use techtron very often. These 5.0 run sk smooth you would swear it's not running . When I first got the car not the case. Ran/idled rough. After using the injector cleaner for bbn over a year now, really works well.👍
 
I too use techtron very often. These 5.0 run sk smooth you would swear it's not running . When I first got the car not the case. Ran/idled rough. After using the injector cleaner for bbn over a year now, really works well.👍
I'm also not immune to the occasional "Italian Tune Up" when hitting an on ramp...
 
I'm also not immune to the occasional "Italian Tune Up" when hitting an on ramp...
I like to keep the sport mode on when I add Techtron ;-)
 
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I've always run premium in my 5.0. Every now & again, I'll chuck in a bottle of Techtron for good measure...
I normally do not use any extra fuel additive since Shell V-power 93 is supposed to be loaded with extra detergents(7 times the required amount) per the Shell website. However, it can not hurt to use a bottle of Techron in the tank every so often to provide some extra cleaning, so I make try it a couple times a year to help keep my fuel injectors clean.

Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium Gasoline
 
Techron every few thanks and an Italian job just before the oil change.
 
I figured the same chemicals in the Techron that are beaking up deposits wild also be hard on the engine oil. Hence, use it right before an oil change. But maybe those chemicals burn off.

Funny, I hadn't heard the term Italian Tuneup. It's a thing.

Italian tuneup - Wikipedia
 
I figured the same chemicals in the Techron that are beaking up deposits wild also be hard on the engine oil. Hence, use it right before an oil change. But maybe those chemicals burn off.

Funny, I hadn't heard the term Italian Tuneup. It's a thing.

Italian tuneup - Wikipedia
You basically take the car onto a freeway and whip the snot out of it.! Or any open road of your choosing.
 
You basically take the car onto a freeway and whip the snot out of it.! Or any open road of your choosing.
Years ago with leaded gas and old ignition systems you'd leave a cloud of black smoke behind you.
 
I would try using premium gas and see it helps the engine run smoother. My 2015 5.0 engine ran like crap with the regular gas that the dealership put in it for my test drive(salesman stopped at a Racetrack to fill during the test drive). It idled rough and felt a bit sluggish with the 87 octane. However, I took a gamble by buying the car hoping the that the engine would feel stronger with premium fuel and was not disappointed. The engine runs buttery smooth at idle with Shell 93 octane.

As the pistons build up gunk it often decreases the overall volume, thus increasing the compression every so lightly; to the point where using higher octane fuel makes it run smoother.

Remember, higher octane fuel doesn't mean that it is a better gas, it just means that it takes longer to combust for higher compression engines.

It's not uncommon for higher octane gas to make engines run smoother that has built up gunk.

I normally do not use any extra fuel additive since Shell V-power 93 is supposed to be loaded with extra detergents(7 times the required amount) per the Shell website. However, it can not hurt to use a bottle of Techron in the tank every so often to provide some extra cleaning, so I make try it a couple times a year to help keep my fuel injectors clean.
Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium Gasoline

I used to be a hard core Shell fan and at one point and one of my cars only sipped on Shell until I sold it. The claims by shell are simply "claims." No one really knows, because petrol companies are hiding behind the whole proprietary nonsense and not being transparent these days.

I do think that Shell despite their claims remain the King of the Petrol jungle hands down, but over the years and due to the 4% cash back at Costco, I make my own Shell by just adding Techron full system additive every ~3K miles or so lol.

All the raw petrol is the same across the board, with the difference only being the additives each company adds to it. So instead of paying upwards of 50 cents more per gallon, if you buy a bulk of 20oz Techron for ~$9 a bottle (w/ 5% Amazon cash back in my case), you'd be on par with breaking even after only 18 gallons of filling up on Shell, which is pretty much one fill up.

I've always looked at it two ways.

If you use Shell and IF it really is potent with its claims then you're constantly cleaning and maintaining that, which is good.

If you use the Costco + Techron every ~3K method like I am, then maybe it's not cleaning as much consistently, but when it does clean on that full tank w/ 20oz of Techron... is having that concentration to 'shock' clean the build up as effective? Who knows...

If you want to go all out, use Techron every few thousand miles on top of Shell to have Pearl Fuel.

I would add the Techron to a tank that you expect the burn right before the next oil change.

Indeed. That's what I normally do. Depending on the season I'll go through about 3-4 Techron treatments before an oil change. Sometimes my oil change internals overlap with the fuel treatment... I keep it pretty ball park estimate...

About that Italian treatment... usually on the tank before my oil change I'll take it for a good spin to try and burn off all the gunk.
 
As the pistons build up gunk it often decreases the overall volume, thus increasing the compression every so lightly; to the point where using higher octane fuel makes it run smoother.

Remember, higher octane fuel doesn't mean that it is a better gas, it just means that it takes longer to combust for higher compression engines.

It's not uncommon for higher octane gas to make engines run smoother that has built up gunk.



I used to be a hard core Shell fan and at one point and one of my cars only sipped on Shell until I sold it. The claims by shell are simply "claims." No one really knows, because petrol companies are hiding behind the whole proprietary nonsense and not being transparent these days.

I do think that Shell despite their claims remain the King of the Petrol jungle hands down, but over the years and due to the 4% cash back at Costco, I make my own Shell by just adding Techron full system additive every ~3K miles or so lol.

All the raw petrol is the same across the board, with the difference only being the additives each company adds to it. So instead of paying upwards of 50 cents more per gallon, if you buy a bulk of 20oz Techron for ~$9 a bottle (w/ 5% Amazon cash back in my case), you'd be on par with breaking even after only 18 gallons of filling up on Shell, which is pretty much one fill up.

I've always looked at it two ways.

If you use Shell and IF it really is potent with its claims then you're constantly cleaning and maintaining that, which is good.

If you use the Costco + Techron every ~3K method like I am, then maybe it's not cleaning as much consistently, but when it does clean on that full tank w/ 20oz of Techron... is having that concentration to 'shock' clean the build up as effective? Who knows...

If you want to go all out, use Techron every few thousand miles on top of Shell to have Pearl Fuel.



Indeed. That's what I normally do. Depending on the season I'll go through about 3-4 Techron treatments before an oil change. Sometimes my oil change internals overlap with the fuel treatment... I keep it pretty ball park estimate...

About that Italian treatment... usually on the tank before my oil change I'll take it for a good spin to try and burn off all the gunk.
LOL. Spending a few more cents on Shell V-power is not an issue with me to have the piece of mind that my fuel injectors are clean plus my engine runs great with it. Very smooth idle, so I am good with Shell V-power. I do not need or feel that I need to pinch pennies to fill up my ride, hence why I bought the V8 model.
 
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LOL. Spending a few more cents on Shell V-power is not an issue with me to have the piece of mind that my fuel injectors are clean plus my engine runs great with it. Very smooth idle, so I am good with Shell V-power. I do not need or feel that I need to pinch pennies to fill up my ride, hence why I bought the V8 model.

Fair point, I totally understand. Despite fueling up at Costco, to be honest I do it for mainly for the 4% CB and the convenience. I get 2% on Shell with another card so when I'm near a Shell I fuel up there if I'm in the area. It really doesn't matter.

I always tell people... it's an oxymoron to penny pinch on your ride when you've spent all that money on getting it. It doesn't matter what it is... if one dished out $30K+ for a car and then goes out and penny pinches (with intent to scrape by) with walmart oil and crap fram paper filters, believe me it's a *roll eyes* moment.

But hey to each their own... I just don't get the logic with that type of people. It's like why did you even buy the car in the first place?

Anyway... good stuff.. I wish I had a Shell closer, but unfortunently it's a ways out...
 
I believe the main thing to remember is to use only a "Top Tier" gas in your car. Click it for the link. They have the detergents needed to keep your fuel system clean. Costco is in that list. I've only used a top tier gas in mine and use Techron about every 3 or 4 months for good measure. Never had a problem with idle
 
the Italian tune up and a bottle of techron seems to have sorted it out
 
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