Service Manuals!?

[Billfz1]

Group,.
This may have been mentioned before, but what is with Hyundai regarding service manuals? I am incensed about the HMAservice.com manuals going to a paid service. First: I used the Hyundai on line service before it was pay-per-view and lets face it...it stank. I complained to Hyundai, (useless BTW) and for my efforts they RAISED the price for a yearly subscription. For those who haven't been to the site yet you get weekly access for $20, monthly for $60, and yearly for $300! I haven 't been on lately but has the quality improved? I wouldn't PAY $20 for a yearly subscription if it hasn't! If you have a subscription look up changing the cabin air filter if you want to see the very definition of vague. The Genesis is an excellent car, it deserves a decent technical repair manual.

Carping over, now for my question, Has any of our DIY group found a GOOD service manual? I know there are on-line companies who have done good ones for a reasonable price. Anybody tried one? Was it better than the Haynes or Chlymers crap? Has anybody downloaded the factory manuals? (It's probably better than nothing.)
I am a former race car and engine builder and currently work as a mechanical engineer, so I'm not worried about working on my car. I would like to not go in blind though. Has this been covered before? Thanks for any suggestions.
Bill

 

[xiaphin]

User OneFunGenesis downloaded the manual for a 2009 before it was a paid service. You can download it from here and I've asked for it to be made a sticky.

How To DL Genesis Sedan FSM

This is what I use and have found it very helpful.

 

[KeeWay]

I have downloaded these a few months back when I had access for my 2012 3.8 Genesis when I was going through problems with
my drivers seat with the dealer so I just put them on my google drive and hopefully they will last and not get blocked .
I have all the years shop manuals with the exception of the 2012 3.8 it also includes the DTM and ETC manuals as well.

All Shop Manuals https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8O6a-w4EEMnNEFtbnJ2NjFpYlU&usp=sharing

Thanks
James

 

[Billfz1]

Thanks xiaphin,
I'm sure that will help some things. My car is a 2013 and the Hyundai 8 speed came on the scene in 2012 so I would really like to find something 2012 or later. The 2009 manual will be a help though no question.
Thanks,
Bill

 

[KeeWay]

Thanks xiaphin,
I'm sure that will help some things. My car is a 2013 and the Hyundai 8 speed came on the scene in 2012 so I would really like to find something 2012 or later. The 2009 manual will be a help though no question.
Thanks,
Bill

i tried to post the manuals for you but for some reason my reply never appeared in this thread . send me a message and i will give you the link

thanks
James

 

[KeeWay]

let me try this again, hopefully this works this time...

I have all the years shop manuals with the exception of the 2012 3.8 it also includes the DTM and ETC manuals as well.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8O6a-w4EEMnNEFtbnJ2NjFpYlU&usp=sharing

thanks
James

 

[limitwheel]

KeeWay,

I see that these are pdf files. When I pick my particular year: 2016 3.8, Should I be able to just click on a mechanical system and it open up? If so, then I believe that the link does not work.
Is there a fee for these manuals?

 

[KeeWay]

KeeWay,

I see that these are pdf files. When I pick my particular year: 2016 3.8, Should I be able to just click on a mechanical system and it open up? If so, then I believe that the link does not work.
Is there a fee for these manuals?

the are zipped up so just download and unzip them to your local computer then try to open them.

thanks
James

 

[Billfz1]

the are zipped up so just download and unzip them to your local computer then try to open them.

thanks
James

KeeWay,
Thanks! works fine. Sadly Hyundai hasn't improved the quality of the manuals.To see what I'm talking about go into the heating and ventilation section and find the section for the cabin air filter, 1 poor picture, and 1 line of description. Those tabs are hard to get out, and you risk breaking them. At least the first time. I do really appreciate your downloads of the manuals. Since Hyundai is only doing on-line versions they should allow you to download 1 version 1 time for your car.
Again KeeWay thanks for the download!
Bill

 

[Mark_888]

My understanding is that dealers complained about free access to the online shop manuals because that allows independent shops to more easily compete with them.

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[kn5owa]

let me try this again, hopefully this works this time...

I have all the years shop manuals with the exception of the 2012 3.8 it also includes the DTM and ETC manuals as well.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8O6a-w4EEMnNEFtbnJ2NjFpYlU&usp=sharing

thanks
James

Doesn't work for me - do you have a 2015 shop manual, when and if it does work. I paid $17 for some online p.o.s. - worthless

 

[xiaphin]

My understanding is that dealers complained about free access to the online shop manuals because that allows independent shops to more easily compete with them.

This I can totally see being the main reason for switching to a paid service.


Sent a message to OneFunGenesis about creating a sticky for the FSM's and having them hosted at a reliable location. He is looking into getting this created for the community. If you have compiled any of this information send him a message.

 

[Billfz1]

My understanding is that dealers complained about free access to the online shop manuals because that allows independent shops to more easily compete with them.

Mark, I might believe that except that the manuals are rather crappy. I worked for Kawasaki motorcycle division in the seventies and eighties. They started a technical writing office in LA. That way they avoided the translation problem caused by 2nd language trouble. Those manuals were awesome and were for machines costing a great deal less than a Genesis! Hyundai needs to get a clue. Good maintenance is MUCH easier with good manuals and sadly the Hyundai manuals are the opposite of good. Thanks for all the forum posters help!
Bill

 

[Billfz1]

Group,
I have purchased factory service manuals for every vehicle I have bought. Sometimes they are done by the manufacturer, other times by an independent technical writing firm (Mopar) Those were high quality. My protest is that you can't simply buy the manuals. 1 time purchase. The idea to make them subscription type services is bullbleep. A year and a day after I pay $300 I can no longer look up in my manual without paying more money is totally unacceptable.
Bill

 

[Mark_888]

Mark, I might believe that except that the manuals are rather crappy.

I am not questioning your assessment of the online manuals. But are you saying that Hyundai dealers have a better set of manuals to work with?

 

[Billfz1]

I am not questioning your assessment of the online manuals. But are you saying that Hyundai dealers have a better set of manuals to work with?

Mark, I really hope so. The problem is when a tech goes to work on your car for the first time. It is like the old doctor joke about "practicing medicine!" This isn't a knock on the techs either, the best ones are always learning. Some manufacturers have new model orientations where they at lease go over the high points of a new model. The trouble is those are usually optional and cost money to attend. A small dealership might not have the money to ship it techs to the orientation. Every one of these things is a reason to have better manuals. Also if Hyundai is CHARGING MONEY FOR THE MANUAL, they should have the means to produce a better one
Bill

 

[Doc817]

Originally Posted by KeeWay View Post
let me try this again, hopefully this works this time...

I have all the years shop manuals with the exception of the 2012 3.8 it also includes the DTM and ETC manuals as well.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...lU&usp=sharing

thanks
James

Anybody know how to open these manuals. They show up as .pdf but I can't open or download them.

Thanks,
Robert

 

[kn5owa]

Originally Posted by KeeWay View Post
let me try this again, hopefully this works this time...

getting an error code 400

 

[Mark_888]

Mark, I really hope so. The problem is when a tech goes to work on your car for the first time. It is like the old doctor joke about "practicing medicine!" This isn't a knock on the techs either, the best ones are always learning. Some manufacturers have new model orientations where they at lease go over the high points of a new model. The trouble is those are usually optional and cost money to attend. A small dealership might not have the money to ship it techs to the orientation. Every one of these things is a reason to have better manuals. Also if Hyundai is CHARGING MONEY FOR THE MANUAL, they should have the means to produce a better one
Bill

I don't really know for sure, but I doubt that dealer techs have access to better manuals. One exception is that for most TSB's, there are detailed instructions and pics on how to implement the TSB.

 

[Jalvin Cohnson]

I have downloaded these a few months back when I had access for my 2012 3.8 Genesis when I was going through problems with
my drivers seat with the dealer so I just put them on my google drive and hopefully they will last and not get blocked .
I have all the years shop manuals with the exception of the 2012 3.8 it also includes the DTM and ETC manuals as well.

All Shop Manuals Hyundai Genesis - Google Drive

Thanks
James

You are a GOD! I have a 2012 3.8, so I hit the jackpot! Thank you