Should i get the 2012 4.6 or 5.0??

[VanillaGorilla]

My wife and I are looking to buy a 2012 genesis sedan in the next few days and simply cannot makeup our minds. My wife is leaving it up to me and i cannot decide. I have test driven all 3 of the 2012 models (3.8, 4.6, 5.0) and have decided on the 4.6 or 5.0. The cars sole purpose is for the family. It is basically my wifes car and she has told me repeatedly she does not care. I am just hoping someone will help me to makeup my mind. Here are my options:


1 - New 5.0 R-Spec at 41K

2 - New(Dealer Demo w/ 600 miles on it) 4.6 at $38,100

3 - New 4.6 (Dealer does not have my color choice so i may have to wait) at $38,400



I do not like the stock wheels on the 4.6 and would most likely change them at some point down the road. the R Spec wheels i can live with although they are not great. Anyone have any thoughts??

 

[Mark_888]

If it is mainly for your wife and family, definitely get the 4.6. The suspension on the R-Spec 5.0 is too stiff (harsh) for many, and especially for intended users in your family. Also, steering is heavier on 5.0, which may not be suitable for your wife. Make sure you test drive on some rough roads if you are thinking about the 5.0.

 

[wallymn]

If the 4.6 got DI, I would suggest the 4.6, but as a 4.6 owner, the 5.0 makes the 4.6 outdated.

From my test drive the auto trans remapping is worth the rSpec.

I am a max power guy, always buy the largest engine available.

 

[Mark_888]

If the 4.6 got DI, I would suggest the 4.6, but as a 4.6 owner, the 5.0 makes the 4.6 outdated.

From my test drive the auto trans remapping is worth the rSpec.

I am a max power guy, always buy the largest engine available.

The car is not for you, or for the OP, it is for OP's wife.

 

[nextcar]

since your wife doesn't care which engine, then she doesn't care about the engine power.
get the v6 if she likes the suspension feel.
get the 4.6 if she likes the softer, calmer ride.
no need for the 5.0 as it costs a couple thousand more and is less fuel efficient.

 

[laiyenha]

My wife and I are looking to buy a 2012 genesis sedan in the next few days and simply cannot makeup our minds. My wife is leaving it up to me and i cannot decide. I have test driven all 3 of the 2012 models (3.8, 4.6, 5.0) and have decided on the 4.6 or 5.0. The cars sole purpose is for the family. It is basically my wifes car and she has told me repeatedly she does not care. I am just hoping someone will help me to makeup my mind.

She might say "she does not care" just to please you and let you pick a vehicle that you would enjoy when you get to drive it. However, since it is her that do the most driving, it is your job to read her mind and pick the appropriate car. Imagine the scenario when she takes her girlfriends out for lunch and they complain her new car is too rough - you might as well trade it in for another car.
Kidding aside, she should do more test driving since it will be her car; also let the kids have a say into the decision making.
I was in your situation around June. I was leaning toward the G37 but more test driving with her at the wheel finally swayed our decision toward the Genesis 4.6. She like it more than the Infinity because the Genesis is similar but improved version of her last ride, Lexus GS400. Oh, and the kids liked the power rear shade!

 

[Glashub]

The 4.6 at $38,400 is a sweet heart deal. I paid $39,100 here in LA. The R-Spec at $41K is a nothing special deal. The GDI is unproven in regards to carbon build up. Check back when owners have about 10,000 - 15,000 miles. The 8 speed is unproven. So you'll have to unknowns in the R-spec. The 4.6 gives plenty of feedback on LA roads. Can't imagine what the R-spec would feel like.

Finally, everything is outdated quickly but I wouldn't consider one of the Top 10 engines (4.6) outdated.

PS - It could be argued that the whole line is outdated because the Tech and interior have not been substantially updated in 4 years.

I'm just sayin'....

 

[Stoofpilot]

Get the 4.6 and your wife will be happy. My wife drove a Lexus LS430 that we traded.

Now my wife loves this car and I have to schedule when I can drive it!

 

[Aquineas]

VanillaGorilla, I'd have her look at the wheels of the R-Spec vs. the stock 4.6. It's a very subjective feature. You either love the R-Spec wheels or you hate them (*cough*). Also it might come down to color as well..

 

[Skywagon]

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[hwks1]

4.6 if you don't want the extra HP or firmer suspension. No big decision here...which 'ride' quality do you prefer?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I appreciate all of the insight. My wife rode in both vehicles but i cannot get her to drive either. She wants to "get used to driving the car" by herself first. Not really sure what that means and honestly i dont want to argue. She is okay with either set of wheels. I drove the R Spec, Wife in the back with the kid, going over as many bumps as possible and she was okay with it. For the price difference i think the R Spec is the way to go but i may just be justfying the extra HP to myself.

Mark_888: the heavier steering is a great point and may actually be the deciding factor.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

VanillaGorilla, I'd have her look at the wheels of the R-Spec vs. the stock 4.6. It's a very subjective feature. You either love the R-Spec wheels or you hate them (*cough*). Also it might come down to color as well..

Interesting. Took the Horse to the dealer for a wash and he threw me the keys to an R-Spec while I was waiting. Looooved the car, hated the wheels! Looked as if they were "pre-brakedusted", and I hate brake dust!
Dealer couldn't believe I didn't like them, they're his favorite feature.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Just to update, i finally convinced my wife to test drive both models and she is okay with either model. I made her go over a ton of bumps/rough patches and made her take alot of turns. Now the hard choice, the color.

 

[newman]

Interesting. Took the Horse to the dealer for a wash and he threw me the keys to an R-Spec while I was waiting. Looooved the car, hated the wheels! Looked as if they were "pre-brakedusted", and I hate brake dust!
Dealer couldn't believe I didn't like them, they're his favorite feature.

Definitely on your side on this topic. It dawned on me the other day that they look too much like some of the Kia optima wheels.

Cheers
Newman

 

[scottdk]

Definitely on your side on this topic. It dawned on me the other day that they look too much like some of the Kia optima wheels.

Cheers
Newman

This is part of why I like the R Spec wheels I hated the Turbo Optima wheels at 1st, but they grew on me quickly and now I think they look pretty nice.

 

[Mark_888]

Just to update, i finally convinced my wife to test drive both models and she is okay with either model. I made her go over a ton of bumps/rough patches and made her take alot of turns. Now the hard choice, the color.

She's knows you want the 5.0 and is trying to please you. In reality, she want the more comfortable ride of the 4.6.

 

[dond13]

I appreciate all of the insight. My wife rode in both vehicles but i cannot get her to drive either. She wants to "get used to driving the car" by herself first. Not really sure what that means and honestly i dont want to argue. She is okay with either set of wheels. I drove the R Spec, Wife in the back with the kid, going over as many bumps as possible and she was okay with it. For the price difference i think the R Spec is the way to go but i may just be justfying the extra HP to myself.

Mark_888: the heavier steering is a great point and may actually be the deciding factor.

Based on YOUR description of your situation, I see absolutely NO advantage to the 5.0. The 4.6 will do everything you want the car to do more comfortably, less initial cost, and and less to maintain and fuel. If you want to drag with your friends, get the 5.0. After you have done that a couple of times, you can trade the 5.0 back in for a 4.6

 

[Junkie49]

Oh come on, only laiyenha got this right.

When she says she doesn't care. She is actually saying that she wants you to guess what she wants. I personally don't know why women does this but anyway DON'T misunderstand what she said and DON'T decide it for yourself.

Have her test drive and keenly check her emotion/expression. If she gives you a hint that she likes this 'better' than it should be safe to buy it.
Or you might know what her preferences are. If she previously like lexus type cars go for 4.6. If she had muscle cars then 5.0 might do.

It is totally up to her and if you intervine her and buys her something she doesn't like, that might be one of huge mistakes you may ever make.

 

[sooththetruth]

When she says she doesn't care. She is actually saying that she wants you to guess what she wants. I personally don't know why women does this but anyway DON'T misunderstand what she said and DON'T decide it for yourself.


There are men like this, too.

If this is really the truth about their marriage, they've got bigger problems to deal with than the "correct" car to choose.

We all struggle with decisions, because by definition a decision involves compromise. Some people so want to have everything, they spend more for no compromise, but that only works if you have money to burn, because burning the money is a compromise. Of course expensive cars often have huge compromises in ride if they're sports cars, or reliability....

And, an educated opinion about something like the ride, power, comes with time for most of us, and a long test drive is still too short.

Finally, salesmen bank on the fact that most people end up happy with their purchases. We get used to our new car, and develop comfort with it, like well fitting blue jeans, though my analogy is weak because blue jeans WILL adjust to the owner more than a car will.

Not trying to be critical, instead I want to point out the good news: They're going to get a very cool car either way, and now they're trying to optimize their future gratification.

In my family it's the wife that will accept the harsh ride of a sportier sedan, cooler wheels, a spoiler and the fancy moniker on the back, and will blow money on horsepower far beyond needed. She is the one disappointed I purchased a 3.8....Hyundai. Meanwhile, I bask in the glow of my purchase, because it fits my desire to not come across as needing the "best" or "most" to be happy. I marvel at my car MORE with time. My purchase appeals to "value" buyers, that tend to be the people who don't "value" panache. A panache seeker thinks a car with panache is a "value" car.

It took years of marriage to accept that neither is wrong (or maybe that the battle is not worth voicing our lack of acceptance).