slow 0-60 times

[brfatal]

Old thread I know, but it needs to be said: nothing that uses an accelerometer to determine speeds should ever be taken as anywhere near the truth.

Knowing this I fiddled with the feature on my Cobb Accessport on my WRX just for shits and giggles. It said I have a 13.8x 1/4 mile time. I ran almost a full second faster than that making 175 whp less than it does now. My car runs 11s in the 1/4 mile .

 

[Kaiserseal]

No one really cares about tenths of a second unless you are tracking the car.

Been off the forum a while, but always thought this was a funny topic. The guy with the slower car thinks speed is not important. Fact is the 2012 V6 is better looking, faster, better Mpg, and more fun to drive than the 2011 4.6. My Genesis would smoke a 80s Ferrari, or Lambo, because the technology has improved. 8 Speeds plus direct injection is simply better. I am sure in ten years Hyundai will have a four banger that will smoke my V6. The new Leds on the headlights, exhaust, and tails makes the car look much better too. For those of you who drive a 4.6, don't feel inadequate, or shame because you bought the wrong car. You just did not know better. (yes I am kidding, you guys are nuts) I don't think there is much of a difference, a half second between the Rspec and the 3.6. The new Bugatti hits 60 in 1.6 seconds, My car can carry four kids, two adults, and three dogs. Priorities!

 

[zielritter]

Been off the forum a while, but always thought this was a funny topic. The guy with the slower car thinks speed is not important. Fact is the 2012 V6 is better looking, faster, better Mpg, and more fun to drive than the 2011 4.6. My Genesis would smoke a 80s Ferrari, or Lambo, because the technology has improved. 8 Speeds plus direct injection is simply better. I am sure in ten years Hyundai will have a four banger that will smoke my V6. The new Leds on the headlights, exhaust, and tails makes the car look much better too. For those of you who drive a 4.6, don't feel inadequate, or shame because you bought the wrong car. You just did not know better. (yes I am kidding, you guys are nuts) I don't think there is much of a difference, a half second between the Rspec and the 3.6. The new Bugatti hits 60 in 1.6 seconds, My car can carry four kids, two adults, and three dogs. Priorities!

I think it's more like a second difference at least b/t the R-Spec and our '12 3.8's. That's 10 car lengths = huge. I know the one site (0-60times) quotes that the '12 V6 can do 0-60 in 5.4s but I can't verify this value anywhere except on an obscure rental car review site.

We can throw out Edmunds, because they are always an outlier on timings, but everyone else puts the '12 V6 in the 5.5-5.9 range. I've personally tested at 5.8s during colder weather and with my older all-season tires. I think mid-5's is doable especially with my intake, cat-deletes, and CBT that's on the way.

Even considering all of this, I still wouldn't say the 4.6l is slower. Probably nearly even with a slight edge to the 4.6l acceleration wise. Of course, from a dollar perspective a few tenths + V6 mpg advantage isn't worth the extra cost of the 4.6l. We all know that Hyundai addressed this point with the 2013 MY.

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[SmoovC]

Old thread I know, but it needs to be said: nothing that uses an accelerometer to determine speeds should ever be taken as anywhere near the truth.

Knowing this I fiddled with the feature on my Cobb Accessport on my WRX just for shits and giggles. It said I have a 13.8x 1/4 mile time. I ran almost a full second faster than that making 175 whp less than it does now. My car runs 11s in the 1/4 mile .

A WRX that runs 11's?! Holy sh!t!!

 

[SterlingDave]

Sniff. SNIFF?? I love the smell of testosterone in the morning.

 

[SmoovC]

Sniff. SNIFF?? I love the smell of testosterone in the morning.

LOL that's funny!! I would love to see video of a 11 second Subie!

 

[Qbedobedoo]

Sniff. SNIFF?? I love the smell of testosterone in the morning.

That's because you have certain preferences.. (just kidding)

 

[StangKiller]

I get the most enjoyment out of my v8 on the highway at speeds between 50 and 90. Effortless acceleration - this is something you don't get in the v6. That being said, the '12 v6 has incredible off the line acceleration, especially for a v6. Also, 333hp standard in a base model car is ridiculous.

 

[Kaiserseal]

I think it's more like a second difference at least b/t the R-Spec and our '12 3.8's. That's 10 car lengths = huge. /thread

Does anyone really race this car? I only judge performance by the seat of my pants. I test drove the Rspec, which felt good, but not good enough to consider a 10K bump in price. Most of the reviews I have read put the 3.8 at 5.4 seconds, and the R at 4.8 seconds. I can feel the difference, but it does not feel that dramatic. The only car I ever dumped because it felt underpowered was an Acura RL. About a year ago I drove a car called an Ariel Atom on a track, and that really put a smile on my face. No idea how fast it was compared to a Genesis, but the Gs were incredible. I am thinking about buying something for fun, perhaps an S2000 or Sky. The difference in price between my 3.8 and the R just about break even when you add in a little convertable. I don't think any sedan feels as fun as a top down light weight two seater. To each his own...

 

[StangKiller]

I see the rspec at 4.7 and the 3.8 at 5.4. This website is pretty accurate with real world times.

http://www.zeroto60times.com/Hyundai-0-60-mph-Times.html

I race mine from time to time - that's why my name on the forums is Stangkiller. I can also tell you that after test driving the 3.8, 4.6 and 5.0 - the 5.0 felt quite a bit faster than the 3.8 and even noticeably faster than the 4.6.

Also, the 5.0 is only a $2k premium over the 3.8 with both packages. It's only $10k different than the base 3.8, which has no tech, NAV, etc. Not really an apples to apples comparison.

It's all in what you value - I was either going to get the rspec or a base 3.8. After keeping the rspec for a night, I couldn't resist...

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[brfatal]

LOL that's funny!! I would love to see video of a 11 second Subie!

My car stock made 170 whp on a Mustang dyno. On a Dyno Dynamics (and lowest reading dyno in the area) my last tune made 395 whp.

I don't have a drag video but I think there is a video of my pulling on a C5 Z06 at Summit Point race track.

11s is old news though. There are plenty faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rb0ULyXsKro

 

[Qbedobedoo]

I get the most enjoyment out of my v8 on the highway at speeds between 50 and 90. Effortless acceleration - this is something you don't get in the v6.

I have absolutely no issues pulling away from asshats on the road, and often find myself overtaking someone going 80mph, only to reach +100mph within a few secs..
I reckon perspective varies.. Both are great cars, I just preferred the handling on the V6.

 

[landtuna]

LOL that's funny!! I would love to see video of a 11 second Subie!

Yeah. That is Super Stock territory and you'd need more than an intake and headers to make that time.

 

[landtuna]

About a year ago I drove a car called an Ariel Atom on a track, and that really put a smile on my face. No idea how fast it was compared to a Genesis, but the Gs were incredible.

Good GAWD man, the Atom is a full blown track car. Kind of like an older Formula Ford without the body work. Lots of fun but not well suited for the road and definitely not a passenger vehicle.

 

[zielritter]

Does anyone really race this car? I only judge performance by the seat of my pants. I test drove the Rspec, which felt good, but not good enough to consider a 10K bump in price. Most of the reviews I have read put the 3.8 at 5.4 seconds, and the R at 4.8 seconds. I can feel the difference, but it does not feel that dramatic. The only car I ever dumped because it felt underpowered was an Acura RL. About a year ago I drove a car called an Ariel Atom on a track, and that really put a smile on my face. No idea how fast it was compared to a Genesis, but the Gs were incredible. I am thinking about buying something for fun, perhaps an S2000 or Sky. The difference in price between my 3.8 and the R just about break even when you add in a little convertable. I don't think any sedan feels as fun as a top down light weight two seater. To each his own...

Where else did you see 5.4 seconds for the 2012 3.8 except for the zeroto60times.com website (which pulls times from other reviews) and the carrenting.com review? I don't trust the car-renting website as most reliable. I also don't think any other site has such an optimistic time for the GDI V6.

I agree though, this car has plenty of power for me - even highspeed hi-way passing is effortless. Maybe it's just my perspective though because I've only owned high-revving low torque small displacement NA engines before this. I got the base 3.8 just under 30k, which was a steal.

 

[zielritter]

I see the rspec at 4.7 and the 3.8 at 5.4. This website is pretty accurate with real world times.

http://www.zeroto60times.com/Hyundai-0-60-mph-Times.html

I race mine from time to time - that's why my name on the forums is Stangkiller. I can also tell you that after test driving the 3.8, 4.6 and 5.0 - the 5.0 felt quite a bit faster than the 3.8 and even noticeably faster than the 4.6.

Also, the 5.0 is only a $2k premium over the 3.8 with both packages. It's only $10k different than the base 3.8, which has no tech, NAV, etc. Not really an apples to apples comparison.

It's all in what you value - I was either going to get the rspec or a base 3.8. After keeping the rspec for a night, I couldn't resist...

Zeroto60times.com just pulls times from other sites and I think their 3.8 GDI time is a bit optimistic given I've only seen that time on one other (obscure) site. I put the time around 5.6-6.0 depending on conditions. Like you say, the difference b/t the 3.8 and 5.0 price wise with the top package is minimal, but I got the base at just below 30k, which was an awesome deal. I'm happy with my purchase.

I'm quite certain there is a huge "seat of the pants" difference b/t the 3.8 and 5.0 despite the seemingly relatively small difference between the 0-60 times. My 2.0l Elantra was heavily modded with almost every bolt on short of a turbo. It would run high 6's 0-60, but the power difference between my Genesis and it is remarkable going just by feel.

 

[zielritter]

I have absolutely no issues pulling away from asshats on the road, and often find myself overtaking someone going 80mph, only to reach +100mph within a few secs..
I reckon perspective varies.. Both are great cars, I just preferred the handling on the V6.

Same. The GDI V6 is effortless on the highway. My 2.0l would run out of steam above 80, but this thing pulls hard as fast as I would ever want to go on a public road. It's all about what you've driven in the past.

 

[Kaiserseal]

Also, the 5.0 is only a $2k premium

I would have gladly paid 2K for the 5.0. I paid 28 and change for my 3.8 on a 2012 fire sale and I think the 5.0 which was a 2013 would have run me at least 9 more. The base interior was very close, and I have my ipad mini mounted to the dash for GPS and infotainment. 9K plus the cost of gas was a deal breaker.

 

[stuofsci02]

I would have gladly paid 2K for the 5.0. I paid 28 and change for my 3.8 on a 2012 fire sale and I think the 5.0 which was a 2013 would have run me at least 9 more. The base interior was very close, and I have my ipad mini mounted to the dash for GPS and infotainment. 9K plus the cost of gas was a deal breaker.

I think he meant from the 3.8 Tech package to the R-Spec.

 

[motleyV8]

I get the most enjoyment out of my v8 on the highway at speeds between 50 and 90. Effortless acceleration - this is something you don't get in the v6. That being said, the '12 v6 has incredible off the line acceleration, especially for a v6. Also, 333hp standard in a base model car is ridiculous.

Agreed, "effortless acceleration" was partly why I leaned toward the V8 Tau vs. the V6 Lamda. If I wanted raw speed and 0-60 was very important to me, I would have gone with one of the 335i's I was looking at. However, I didn't want the headache and expense of the 335i. I would have had it chipped within a month LOL. I then became interested in the Genesis and test drove a 2011 CPO V8 Genesis, a 2012 Sonata turbo, and finally a 2012 V6 Genesis all in the same afternoon. I was looking for near luxury, performance, reliability, and some kind of warranty for ~30k...so yeah, quite the task...LOL. A new R-spec was out of my price range and didn't even bother to tempt myself with it LOL.

The Sonata was loaded with all options and the 2.0T felt OK, but driving it in between the two Genesis' didn't do it justice. These cars are just not in the same class...no surprise there. The 2012 V6 Genesis was very nice and seemed about as fast as the 2011 V8, but it was working a little harder to get there. Not a surprise nor a concern since it was a V6, but there was also more hesitation at times when trying to get on it. I assumed it was the new tranny and it's tuning. With all options added, the '12 V6 was going to cost me quite a bit more than the already loaded CPO '11 4.6L. I went back and test drove the V8 a 2nd time and bought it on the spot. I feel that I got a lot of car for the $ since it was CPO and had only 3k on the odometer. It was essentially a new car. My goal is to keep my car 3 years and then see what else is out there. It will be interesting to see if the GDI engines and 8-speed tranny prove to be as reliable as the multi-port engines and ZF 6-speed in the 2009-2011. Hyundai got me to bite and sign up once, but we'll see if they can keep me

That all said, I can understand why they are taking the 4.6L away in 2013. With the new Tau 5.0 and a more powerful Lamda, there is no need for it. What I can't quite understand for 2013, like others have mentioned, is why anyone would buy a new loaded V6 vs. a new R-spec? If I recall correctly, the V6 was really getting up there in price after adding the premium/tech packages and the fuel economy was only marginally better (22 vs 18 combined and 25 vs 28 highway). I guess if you drive a hell of a lot, it might make sense to someone, but considering almost a 100HP difference and a better resale value, it would never make sense to me. If you are already spending $40k+ and that $2-3k and the 3 MPG is going to put you over the top, then you probably should have settled on the the Sonata...or a 2011 CPO like I did Just my 0.02