Suggested Service at 90K mi (Help!)

[ASHDUMP]

So I've owned a new/used Genesis since Oct '09. When I purchased the car it had 3500mi on her. Since then, I've now reached 90K on the odometer and all I've done to the car is oil changes. I use synthetic oil and change every 7k/9k.

Since I purchased this Genesis via private sale, I have never received any Hyundai maintenance mailings etc. I'm not even sure what I should do now at this point.

Does anyone have suggestions on maintenance that I could do? Brakes are still in good shape. Plugs and wires will go when they go I guess...

Should I get my fluids flushed out?

Please shed some light on this for me!!! I'd like to maintain the car and hopefully get 200K out of her!

 

[landtuna]

So I've owned a new/used Genesis since Oct '09. When I purchased the car it had 3500mi on her. Since then, I've now reached 90K on the odometer and all I've done to the car is oil changes. I use synthetic oil and change every 7k/9k.

Since I purchased this Genesis via private sale, I have never received any Hyundai maintenance mailings etc. I'm not even sure what I should do now at this point.

Does anyone have suggestions on maintenance that I could do? Brakes are still in good shape. Plugs and wires will go when they go I guess...

Should I get my fluids flushed out?

Please shed some light on this for me!!! I'd like to maintain the car and hopefully get 200K out of her!

If all you've done is change the oil there is a laundry list of items probably needing attention. The best idea would be to download a copy of the 2009 Owners Manual and refer to the maintenance section to see what pops up for 90K service.

Two years ago my Avalon hit 90K and we were getting ready to give it to our daughter so I had the full enchilada worked over and it ran about $2,500. The car had been trouble-free to that point and has had only one small issue since then so I figured it was a good investment. Probably will be for your Genny as well.

The manuals for your car can be found here: https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/

You must register but it is free.

 

[ASHDUMP]

If all you've done is change the oil there is a laundry list of items probably needing attention. The best idea would be to download a copy of the 2009 Owners Manual and refer to the maintenance section to see what pops up for 90K service.

Two years ago my Avalon hit 90K and we were getting ready to give it to our daughter so I had the full enchilada worked over and it ran about $2,500. The car had been trouble-free to that point and has had only one small issue since then so I figured it was a good investment. Probably will be for your Genny as well.

The manuals for your car can be found here: https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/

You must register but it is free.

Thanks for the reply....

I'll look at the manual and see what it says...

Any above and beyond or things Hyundai says should be done but doesn't necessarily need done?

Looking for experiences other have had with their maintenance too.

Thanks,

 

[ASHDUMP]

Well after doing a quick glance at the Hyundai recommended maintenence this is what I should do up to now:

1.) Fuel Filter
2.) Air Cleaner Filter
3.) Spark Plugs Soon 100,000mi
4.) Fuel Tank Air Filter
5.) Coolant Flush/Replace
6.) CLIMATE CONTROL AIR FILTER (FOR EVAPORATOR AND BLOWER UNIT)
7.) Replace Rear Axle Oil

Anything else? I'm going to call a couple Hyundai dealers and get some quotes for all of this.

UPDATED: As recommended by others (Still looking for other items people are completing as well!)

8.) Replace Brake Fluid
9.) Replace Transmission Fluid
10.) TBD...

 

[Mark_888]

So I've owned a new/used Genesis since Oct '09. When I purchased the car it had 3500mi on her. Since then, I've now reached 90K on the odometer and all I've done to the car is oil changes. I use synthetic oil and change every 7k/9k.

Since I purchased this Genesis via private sale, I have never received any Hyundai maintenance mailings etc. I'm not even sure what I should do now at this point.

Does anyone have suggestions on maintenance that I could do? Brakes are still in good shape. Plugs and wires will go when they go I guess...

Should I get my fluids flushed out?

Please shed some light on this for me!!! I'd like to maintain the car and hopefully get 200K out of her!

I purchased my 2009 Genesis new and have never received any maintenance reminders. Hyundai does not do that, although some dealers may choose to do it (dealers are independently owned and separate from Hyundai). You are supposed to look in the Owners Manual for the service intervals.

As you probably noticed, in addition to oil changes, you should change out the air filter and cabin filter on a regular basis. You can do these yourself without much problem. You can get the filters at the parts department of a dealer, or you can get after-market versions from an auto-parts store or Walmart. The cabin filter change is a little tricky, but there are several threads in this forum about how to do it (inside the glove compartment).

 

[homeofstone]

Do a transmission fluid and filter change before 100k so if something is found in fluid or if the tech screws something up and it shows up in 5k miles then it is covered by the 100k warranty.

 

[Mark_888]

Do a transmission fluid and filter change before 100k so if something is found in fluid or if the tech screws something up and it shows up in 5k miles then it is covered by the 100k warranty.

I believe that he purchased the car used in a private sale, hence the extended drive-train warranty would not be valid.

 

[Rey]

Transmissions seem to be the weakest link in the drive train. Modern motors will run well in excess of 200K with recommended oil change intervals.

However, transmissions are a different story. Many mfg., including BMW, tout their transmission as having a "lifetime fill", which I guess depends on the measuring life. However, I think it is a good bet to change transmission fluids every 60K miles.

Also, would change coolant and brake fluid. In the old days before ABS brake systems we would keep brake fluid for life, maybe changing just the fluid in the master cylinder. Nowadays dirty brake fluid can damage sensitive ABS components, so change brake fluid.

There are two schools of thought respecting maintenance:
1. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think BP Petroleum practiced this with the Gulf oil spill.
2. Fix it before it breaks. Airlines and Air Forces usually follow this method.

 

[Mark_888]

Transmissions seem to be the weakest link in the drive train. Modern motors will run well in excess of 200K with recommended oil change intervals.

However, transmissions are a different story. Many mfg., including BMW, tout their transmission as having a "lifetime fill", which I guess depends on the measuring life. However, I think it is a good bet to change transmission fluids every 60K miles.

Also, would change coolant and brake fluid. In the old days before ABS brake systems we would keep brake fluid for life, maybe changing just the fluid in the master cylinder. Nowadays dirty brake fluid can damage sensitive ABS components, so change brake fluid.

There are two schools of thought respecting maintenance:
1. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think BP Petroleum practiced this with the Gulf oil spill.
2. Fix it before it breaks. Airlines and Air Forces usually follow this method.

The reason why BMW says their transmissions are lifetime fill is because they now use synthetic transmission oil. They certainly didn't claim that before synthetic was used.

Brake fluid also needs to changed because after awhile it absorbs moisture from various sources and needs to be replaced. Moisture is the death kneel of brake fluid.

I don't think the BP oil spill had anything to do with a philosophy of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." BP ignored the advice of their contractors and took short cuts in order to try and complete the well and get it producing as soon as possible since it was costing them a few hundred grand every day for the drilling platform rental.

On 9 November 2010, a report by the Oil Spill Commission said that there had been "a rush to completion" on the well and criticized poor management decisions. The also said that there was a "last‐minute changes to plans" that contributed to the disaster.

 

[PMCErnie]

90,000 miles and no brake parts replacements? Difficult to believe.

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[homeofstone]

90,000 miles and no brake parts replacements? Difficult to believe.

96k on my 2011 4.6 and no brake work has been needed and pads still have about 1/4" left. Still brakes smooth and quiet.

 

[Mark_888]

90,000 miles and no brake parts replacements? Difficult to believe.

There is no direct correlation between miles driven and number of times brakes were applied (and at what speed they were applied). I know that is hard to believe in parts of the country where freeways are often parking lots, but some people can rack up mega-miles with only rarely applying the brakes.

 

[homeofstone]

96k on my 2011 4.6 and no brake work has been needed and pads still have about 1/4" left. Still brakes smooth and quiet.

The car my Genesis replaced was an Acura driven on same roads, same routes, same drivers and the Acura was getting its third brake job by 100k.

 

[ASHDUMP]

There is no direct correlation between miles driven and number of times brakes were applied (and at what speed they were applied). I know that is hard to believe in parts of the country where freeways are often parking lots, but some people can rack up mega-miles with only rarely applying the brakes.

I work in the suburbs of Boston.... I live in highway parking lots....

I also believe the 4.6 has larger breaks than the 3.8? If people with the 3.8 aren't getting long life out of the break pads that could be the culprit.

Also see and contribute to this thread... I think its an interesting one.
http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=6990&highlight=brake

 

[WowCool]

Hi All,
well if Hyundai tell you what you need to do - Do It..
It's a big high end vehicle & most of all you invested a lot of money. Why look for shortcuts.. Life could be as stake..
Over the years I've seen people take shortcuts, miss this, miss that & generally in the end it costs a whole lot more hard earned dough!!
If you cannot plonk the whole lot down at once do it over a few weeks or maybe a few months.....That is if you are going to keep the vehicle..
Otherwise "shortcuts" till you move it On........

 

[Mark_888]

Hi All,
well if Hyundai tell you what you need to do - Do It..
It's a big high end vehicle & most of all you invested a lot of money. Why look for shortcuts.. Life could be as stake..
Over the years I've seen people take shortcuts, miss this, miss that & generally in the end it costs a whole lot more hard earned dough!!
If you cannot plonk the whole lot down at once do it over a few weeks or maybe a few months.....That is if you are going to keep the vehicle..
Otherwise "shortcuts" till you move it On........

Hyundai and its dealers are two different entities. The dealers are independent businesses that can tell you anything they want so that they can more money. If Hyundai tells you to do maintenance in their Owner's Manual, then you should do it. If your dealer tells you something different than what is in your Owner's Manual, you should just chalk that up to caveat emptor (buyer beware).

 

[Mark_888]

I work in the suburbs of Boston.... I live in highway parking lots....

I also believe the 4.6 has larger breaks than the 3.8? If people with the 3.8 aren't getting long life out of the break pads that could be the culprit.

Also see and contribute to this thread... I think its an interesting one.
http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=6990&highlight=brake

The 4.6/5.0 V8 has larger front brakes because there are 200 lbs extra weight on the front end. I don't recall seeing posts on this forum that would suggest that 3.8 owners are seeing more brake wear than the V8 (but please correct me if I am wrong about that).

 

[Potty_Pants]

There is no direct correlation between miles driven and number of times brakes were applied (and at what speed they were applied). I know that is hard to believe in parts of the country where freeways are often parking lots, but some people can rack up mega-miles with only rarely applying the brakes.

just food for thought, brake wear (in some cases) doesn't have anything to do with bumper to bumper highways.

My G35 @30K had less then 1/2 meat on rear pads and fronts looked brand new. Same goes for my BMW 3 series. Computer showed 18K left on fronts and <10K on rears.

Traction control tends to apply the brakes at certain times resulting in higher wear.

ppp

 

[mlinzz]

I just recently went in for an oil change and the dealership did a once over of all the components normally listed for replacement around 60K - The only recommended replacement was the air filter. Also have abnormal wear on the front passenger tire, but my alignment looks good. Think this has been a common issue with the tires used on these cars. While my car is a 2011, it's been probably 75/35 city/highway driving in some serious traffic. My brakes were rated on a scale of 1-8 by the technician and pads and rotors both came in at 7/8 all around and calipers were 8/8. My old maxima would need new brake pads every 7,000 miles almost like clockwork under the same conditions of daily driving. So clearly the quality is much higher on these parts. While I think 90K and no other service being done is kind of nuts, most of that is based on owning previous cars that always needed regular maintenance. That said, I had the maxima from 1999 (brand new) until 2011 and I never did anything but the pads and oil changes and 1 transmission flush. Total cost of ownership was very minimal since nissan pads were purchased in bulk during an awesome group buy when I used to AutoX the thing.

 

[Mark_888]

I just recently went in for an oil change and the dealership did a once over of all the components normally listed for replacement around 60K - The only recommended replacement was the air filter. Also have abnormal wear on the front passenger tire, but my alignment looks good. Think this has been a common issue with the tires used on these cars. While my car is a 2011, it's been probably 75/35 city/highway driving in some serious traffic. My brakes were rated on a scale of 1-8 by the technician and pads and rotors both came in at 7/8 all around and calipers were 8/8. My old maxima would need new brake pads every 7,000 miles almost like clockwork under the same conditions of daily driving. So clearly the quality is much higher on these parts. While I think 90K and no other service being done is kind of nuts, most of that is based on owning previous cars that always needed regular maintenance. That said, I had the maxima from 1999 (brand new) until 2011 and I never did anything but the pads and oil changes and 1 transmission flush. Total cost of ownership was very minimal since nissan pads were purchased in bulk during an awesome group buy when I used to AutoX the thing.

Most likely your Maxima transmission was not designed for use with synthetic fluid (and did not contain synthetic fluid as factory fill), and therefore it is hard to compare with the Genesis transmissions in terms of service intervals.

Not sure what kind of plugs the Maxima used, but my recollection is that with newer plug technology almost all manufacturers have gone from 60K mile plug replacement to 100K miles. Things change, and sometimes for the better.

A front wheel drive car (with about 60/40 weight distribution) is going to need front brakes replaced more often because of the extra weight on the front end (compared to RWD car which is usually about 52/48 weight distribution). However, I do suspect the brake pads on the Genesis are better also.