Tesla -> GV60 transition tips?

[ELNJ]

In my opinion, the same could be said of the GV60 when in I-pedal. It will be interesting to see what @ELNJ's opinion is once he gets the car.

It’s arriving tomorrow, so I’ll report back with my impressions!

 

[ideutsch]

The EPA allows mfrs. to decide which calculation method to use to finalize their range ratings.
Tesla chooses to average the range ratings across all drive modes, which then allows the cars to retain any drive mode after an ignition cycle.

Some other mfrs (including H/K/G) choose to quote a specific mode’s range, presumably to get slightly higher numbers.

While I understand the impetus, those additional ~10 miles of range are meaningless most of the time, and I prefer to drive in Sport, so I have to switch modes every time I start the GV60.

If you regularly drove a Tesla back to back with the GV60 like I do, you’d understand the difference.

I don't know what driving a Tesla back to back with the GV60 has to do with this, but I do understand how it can be annoying to change the drive mode every time.

Like I mentioned, every vehicle I've owned for the past 30+ years has worked this way, so it's not at all uncommon. Also, Tesla isn't known for being accurate for their EPA range estimates.

 

[dipseydo]

I don't know the answer to the double profile question. The display location on the Tesla, along with the company's refusal to offer a HUD are two of the many reasons why I would never buy a Tesla. First the company puts it on the side and then it refuses to offer a HUD option which would at least put some of the info directly in front of the driver.

And Tesla "minimalism" is another reason. I call it "cheapism" as that is what it really is. It is less expensive to put all the control on the info screen. I can understand doing it on a mainstream model but not on something marketed as a luxury vehicle. Like you I used to be a Prius driver but I hated the display in the middle of the car. I have Tom Lehrer (Songs and Lyrics by Tom Lehrer) on a USB stick. One button activates the radio; another activates the USB stick. If I am listening to the radio and want to see a map, there is a button for that. I think there are 22 seat adjustments and they can be made from switches on the side of the seat, where they belong, not on the info screen.

I confidentially predict that you will love the GV60.

I do have a couple of complaints: (1) I wish that the adjustable suspension were more adjustable for handling purposes; and (2) I will the car came with ultraperformance summer tires. I bit the bullet and replaced them all with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S HL rated tires and now the car feels planted to the road.

My car is now a year and a half old. In the interim many more EVs have been released. But if mine were totaled tomorrow, I would likely replace it with another. I would be tempted by the Porsche Electrified Macan but I don't think it is worth the many tens of thousands of extra dollars to purchase it compared to what I get on my GV60P.

One more comment: I have a friend who is 6'10". When he and his wife decided that they wanted a truck for retirement, they had to get rid of his wife's beloved Lexus NX because he couldn't fit in it. They replaced it with an X3. My friend tried sitting in the driver's seat of my GV60 and he said it fitted very well. So I don't know how the automatic seating function will work on a tall individual (I used to be 5'8") but you won't have any trouble fitting in.

Automatic seat function is for 6’5 and under. I’m just over that and did not like the auto seat function. However this car is fantastic for tall folks

 

[Zcd1]

…unless I put the GV60 in sport mode.

This may be key, because I almost always drive the GV60 in Sport mode. Does the drive mode change the rate of regenerative deceleration?

Sport is the only mode that provides the accelerator responsiveness I’m expecting from a “performance” EV.

 

[ideutsch]

This may be key, because I almost always drive the GV60 in Sport mode. Does the drive mode change the rate of regenerative deceleration?

Sport is the only mode that provides the accelerator responsiveness I’m expecting from a “performance” EV.

I find that sport mode does feel more aggressive with regen braking.

There is also a setting for Brakes under Drive Mode that can be set to Comfort or Sport and under EV Settings there’s a setting for Smart Regeneration that has three levels of regen ranging from faster to slower/smooth.

Maybe try setting a custom drive mode and see how that works?

 

[Zcd1]

I find that sport mode does feel more aggressive with regen braking.

There is also a setting for Brakes under Drive Mode that can be set to Comfort or Sport and under EV Settings there’s a setting for Smart Regeneration that has three levels of regen ranging from faster to slower/smooth.

Maybe try setting a custom drive mode and see how that works?

I thought I had, but I’ll double check those settings. Thx.

 

[Lexigen]

I drive my Tesla (2024 model 3 dual motor) and 2023 GV60P 60/40 split. A few random thoughts.

-The most jarring thing will be the app. With the Tesla app, everything command you send to the car is in real time once the car is awake, and it takes seconds to wake the car from the app. With the Genesis, every command takes probably 20-30 seconds, not to mention the Genesis app is very limited in functionality.

-You will love auto wipers that actually work in the GV60. I've owned 3 Teslas (2018, 2023, and now 2024) and the auto wipers simply do not work and never will.

-In the Genesis, you can engage lane keep (auto steer in Tesla speak) separately from the adaptive cruise control. I like driving the car this way on the highway, being able to keep my hand relaxed while manually maintaining speed. When lane keep is enabled, when you signal a lane change with the turn signal, it temporarily disengages lane keep and reenables itself after the lane change is complete. I highly prefer the way the GV60 operates over Tesla.

-I like to keep my cars clean, and I wash them myself. I clean the door jambs with every wash. On the Tesla there is no seals around the doors and it gets absolutely filthy after driving in the rain. On the GV60, there are seals all around the doors and the jambs stay very clean.

-For some reason the windshield on the Tesla fogs up constantly, and they constantly get dirty from offgasing. The 2024 seems to have improved. No such issues on the GV60. The fogging issue in the Tesla may have to do with the inability to let in outside air unless the climate control is on. In the GV60 you can operate the recirculate button with the climate control off. Speaking of buttons, yes I absolutely love all the physical buttons in the Genesis.

-I scanned through the last few posts. Yes in the Tesla it is much easier to bring the car to a complete stop limo style. Once you get the hang of easing off the throttle, it is easy as pie to bring the car to a limo stop every time. You don't feel a thing. In the GV60, about half the time, there's a slight jolt right before it comes to a complete stop when iPedal (required to bring the car to a complete stop without touching the brake pedal). Even on regen 1-3, which requires using the brake pedal to bring the car to a complete stop, that jolt right before the car comes to a complete stop is still present about half the time.

-That jolt from above can also happen when accelerating from a stop. After nearly 3yrs of GV60 ownership I still haven't figured out how to avoid the jolt. It may be that it's releasing the friction brakes abruptly? Not sure. This can also happen on the Tesla. However, on the Tesla at a complete stop, if you lift off and get back on the brake pedal, it will disengage the brake hold and allow you to start accelerating very smoothly.

-On the Tesla, you've probably noticed that regen is limited in the morning. Even now when it's around 60F in the morning there are still a few dots in the morning. The colder the weather the more limited. In the middle of winter it can be no regen at all. Tesla did introduce a function to let it use the friction brakes when it's limited, but I don't use it. I rarely ever feel regen being limited in the GV60, although there's no indication for it like you have with the dots on the Tesla.

I'm sure there are other points. Will update.

 

[steveinarizona]

I like our GV60, but I miss many Tesla-isms when driving it...

I am sure you do. There is no such thing as a perfect car for everyone. Each manufacturer chooses which features to implement, how much to charge, and how they will operate. Whether a Tesla, a Mach-E, a GV60, a Taycan, a Lucid Air, etc. there are features that you want but it doesn't have, features that were implemented in a way you don't favor, Etc. As a customer one has to decide which features and implementations are important to you and then choose the vehicle that comes closest to your desires.

For me, the Genesis GV60P was a unicorn when I bought it a year and a half ago and I think it pretty much still is. The closest equivalent IMO is the Porsche Electrified Macan. I was parked next to one a few weeks ago and it was amazing how similar they look. I fully expect that the Porsche will handle better than my GV60P but once you start hitting the infamous Porsche options chart to create a Macan similar to the GV60P, the cost starts moving into the $100s. I don't think it is that much better. If my GV60P were totaled today, I would likely replace it with another.

 

[gvjim]

This is really weird - I didn't write that. I went back and found the post you quoted and it was written by ZCD1.

Post in thread 'Tesla -> GV60 transition tips?'

Jun 1, 2025

You'll need to get used to the clumsy transition from acceleration to coasting/braking.

You'll need to get used to OTA updates being a real pain in the a**, IF they ever come.

You'll need to get used to regen braking not being able to bring the car to a complete stop, and to a clumsy transition from regen to physical braking in the last 5 mph of deceleration.

You'll need to get used to the car's NAV being truly awful when it comes to trip-planning for trips beyond the car's range.

I like our GV60, but I miss many Tesla-isms when driving it...

• Zcd1

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[steveinarizona]

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This is really weird - I didn't write that. I went back and found the post you quoted and it was written by ZCD1.

Post in thread 'Tesla -> GV60 transition tips?'

Jun 1, 2025

You'll need to get used to the clumsy transition from acceleration to coasting/braking.

You'll need to get used to OTA updates being a real pain in the a**, IF they ever come.

You'll need to get used to regen braking not being able to bring the car to a complete stop, and to a clumsy transition from regen to physical braking in the last 5 mph of deceleration.

You'll need to get used to the car's NAV being truly awful when it comes to trip-planning for trips beyond the car's range.

I like our GV60, but I miss many Tesla-isms when driving it...

• Zcd1

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Almost like we are living in Roswell, NM. I am pretty sure I did the copy function to show what I was commenting on and it is the only way I know of to have the source shown like it was in my post. How it attributed it to you I don't know. Perhaps I inadvertently ran it through an AI machine and got a hallucination out of it.

Thanks for correcting my post.

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[ELNJ]

Car arrived this week! I've really been enjoying it so far. A few observations and questions:

• I've been using iPedal, and it seems pretty functional for me. Compared to the Tesla, it's not as aggressive, so I've had to recalibrate. In particular, it's not as good at completely stopping from higher speeds. For stop-and-go traffic it's fine, but if I'm going above 35 mph or so, I find I can't stop in a reasonable time without applying the brake.
• It's nice to have all of the physical buttons. It will take me a while to learn where all of them are, though, to be able to use them without looking much.
• I charged the car, unplugged the charger, and then got in to start it. After starting, I got the message "The charge door is open." Shouldn't it close automatically? The manual indicates that the door should close when the charger is unplugged. Is there another setting that affects this?
• When using the cruise control in stop-and-go traffic, I was surprised to find that it wouldn't start up again on its own if the car came to a complete stop. This is different behavior from Tesla, and adds a little extra effort to managing stop-and-go.
• I assume that there's no way to disable the warning message on the screen at start up that has to be dismissed. But there is a second message, about the latest software update ("click here to learn more about the latest audio update"). Whether I view that or dismiss it, it still comes up every time I start the car. Shouldn't a software update notification come up only once? Any way to get rid of it?
• Is there a mode with actual maps? (Other than using CarPlay.) The "map" display is very abstract and not all that useful. Do you only get real maps when navigating? Note that I don't have Connected Services set up yet, if that matters.

Thanks for all of the help so far, and any thoughts about the above.

 

[ideutsch]

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Car arrived this week! I've really been enjoying it so far. A few observations and questions:

• I've been using iPedal, and it seems pretty functional for me. Compared to the Tesla, it's not as aggressive, so I've had to recalibrate. In particular, it's not as good at completely stopping from higher speeds. For stop-and-go traffic it's fine, but if I'm going above 35 mph or so, I find I can't stop in a reasonable time without applying the brake.
• It's nice to have all of the physical buttons. It will take me a while to learn where all of them are, though, to be able to use them without looking much.
• I charged the car, unplugged the charger, and then got in to start it. After starting, I got the message "The charge door is open." Shouldn't it close automatically? The manual indicates that the door should close when the charger is unplugged. Is there another setting that affects this?
• When using the cruise control in stop-and-go traffic, I was surprised to find that it wouldn't start up again on its own if the car came to a complete stop. This is different behavior from Tesla, and adds a little extra effort to managing stop-and-go.
• I assume that there's no way to disable the warning message on the screen at start up that has to be dismissed. But there is a second message, about the latest software update ("click here to learn more about the latest audio update"). Whether I view that or dismiss it, it still comes up every time I start the car. Shouldn't a software update notification come up only once? Any way to get rid of it?
• Is there a mode with actual maps? (Other than using CarPlay.) The "map" display is very abstract and not all that useful. Do you only get real maps when navigating? Note that I don't have Connected Services set up yet, if that matters.

Thanks for all of the help so far, and any thoughts about the above.

Congrats on the new vehicle!

A few quick notes:

The charge door will close automatically if left open or you start to drive away.

Cruise control should come to a complete stop and start again once traffic begins to move. I use this feature all the time and you can even keep your hands off the wheel until speeds exceed 30mph or so.

The software update message should not continue to appear, especially once you view the notification.

There are two types of maps. One is the 3D view that’s not very detailed and the other is the more traditional style. Neither will look as detailed as Google or Apple Maps though. The built in navigation does use Google for navigation search results though.

 

[gvjim]

The charge door will close automatically if left open or you start to drive away.

Really? I didn't know that. Now that I do know it, I don't plan to rely on it. It's pretty easy to pull out the cable and tap the button to close the door, and I like seeing that it is closed.

Cruise control should come to a complete stop and start again once traffic begins to move.

It will only do that on limited access highways (i.e. freeways). On a surface street, you have to tap the cruise control resume button just as the car ahead of you begins to move. It's slightly annoying, but the car has me trained at this point. And most of my stop-and-go driving is on the freeway, so it works great for that. I almost enjoy traffic jams now.

I assume that there's no way to disable the warning message on the screen at start up that has to be dismissed.

I don't know how it got disabled, but I've never had to dismiss a warning message at start. Maybe that is related to the fact that I tap on the fingerprint sensor every time I start the car. That's all I do, there's no message to dismiss.

The "map" display is very abstract and not all that useful.

I think you are being generous. My 2006 Prius had vastly superior maps to this car. I don't understand how anyone looked at the maps in this car and decided "yeah, that's good, ship it." To me this is way worse than failing to deliver a NACS adapter that I can buy myself anyway.

My solution is that I just use CarPlay., which works great. I've only used the native maps twice - both times for preconditioning. My biggest gripe is that I can't manually turn on battery conditioning and then use CarPlay for navigation. Or let me navigate with both the native maps (for preconditioning) AND Apple Maps at the same time. But it's one or the other. If you use Apple Maps, it disables preconditioning.

Does your car have the software that allows CarPlay to use the cluster screen and the HUD. Just wonderful.

 

[ELNJ]

I don't know how it got disabled, but I've never had to dismiss a warning message at start. Maybe that is related to the fact that I tap on the fingerprint sensor every time I start the car. That's all I do, there's no message to dismiss.

I figured out that by setting up and switching to a named user profile (instead of the default "Guest" profile) then neither of these messages comes up. So I think it's not about the fingerprint, but probably the fact that it's linked to a profile. One small step forward!

 

[Zcd1]

• Is there a mode with actual maps? (Other than using CarPlay.) The "map" display is very abstract and not all that useful. Do you only get real maps when navigating? Note that I don't have Connected Services set up yet, if that matters.

This goes back to my comment about the Genesis’ NAV being sub-optimal for trip planning. After 7+ years of Google Maps satellite view navigation in our Teslas, the GV60’s is a huge letdown.

I use (corded) CarPlay with Google Maps, but as has been mentioned, this eliminates battery pre-conditioning for DC fast charging, and THAT really sucks.

 

[Jusanotherguy]

I drive my Tesla (2024 model 3 dual motor) and 2023 GV60P 60/40 split. A few random thoughts.

-The most jarring thing will be the app. With the Tesla app, everything command you send to the car is in real time once the car is awake, and it takes seconds to wake the car from the app. With the Genesis, every command takes probably 20-30 seconds, not to mention the Genesis app is very limited in functionality.

-You will love auto wipers that actually work in the GV60. I've owned 3 Teslas (2018, 2023, and now 2024) and the auto wipers simply do not work and never will.

-In the Genesis, you can engage lane keep (auto steer in Tesla speak) separately from the adaptive cruise control. I like driving the car this way on the highway, being able to keep my hand relaxed while manually maintaining speed. When lane keep is enabled, when you signal a lane change with the turn signal, it temporarily disengages lane keep and reenables itself after the lane change is complete. I highly prefer the way the GV60 operates over Tesla.

-I like to keep my cars clean, and I wash them myself. I clean the door jambs with every wash. On the Tesla there is no seals around the doors and it gets absolutely filthy after driving in the rain. On the GV60, there are seals all around the doors and the jambs stay very clean.

-For some reason the windshield on the Tesla fogs up constantly, and they constantly get dirty from offgasing. The 2024 seems to have improved. No such issues on the GV60. The fogging issue in the Tesla may have to do with the inability to let in outside air unless the climate control is on. In the GV60 you can operate the recirculate button with the climate control off. Speaking of buttons, yes I absolutely love all the physical buttons in the Genesis.

-I scanned through the last few posts. Yes in the Tesla it is much easier to bring the car to a complete stop limo style. Once you get the hang of easing off the throttle, it is easy as pie to bring the car to a limo stop every time. You don't feel a thing. In the GV60, about half the time, there's a slight jolt right before it comes to a complete stop when iPedal (required to bring the car to a complete stop without touching the brake pedal). Even on regen 1-3, which requires using the brake pedal to bring the car to a complete stop, that jolt right before the car comes to a complete stop is still present about half the time.

-That jolt from above can also happen when accelerating from a stop. After nearly 3yrs of GV60 ownership I still haven't figured out how to avoid the jolt. It may be that it's releasing the friction brakes abruptly? Not sure. This can also happen on the Tesla. However, on the Tesla at a complete stop, if you lift off and get back on the brake pedal, it will disengage the brake hold and allow you to start accelerating very smoothly.

-On the Tesla, you've probably noticed that regen is limited in the morning. Even now when it's around 60F in the morning there are still a few dots in the morning. The colder the weather the more limited. In the middle of winter it can be no regen at all. Tesla did introduce a function to let it use the friction brakes when it's limited, but I don't use it. I rarely ever feel regen being limited in the GV60, although there's no indication for it like you have with the dots on the Tesla.

I'm sure there are other points. Will update.

Oh my god, Ive had the car for a year and a half now, and im going crazy trying to properly accelerate when stopped , whether from ipedal or using the paddle to complete stop. No matter what I do the jolt remains, and I thought it was just me, so im glad someone else mentioned it. I very recently stopped using ipedal and am back to using auto regen. I noticed the jolt is much less prominent when using auto stop. But even with it enabled, if I use the paddle to come to a complete stop, the jolt remains. I know its not a friction brake or whatever issue, cause if I use cruise control, and it stops because of traffic , and I start it up again when traffic gets moving, its completely fine.

I'm going nuts about it. its a small thing I cant stop noticing!

 

[ideutsch]

Oh my god, Ive had the car for a year and a half now, and im going crazy trying to properly accelerate when stopped , whether from ipedal or using the paddle to complete stop. No matter what I do the jolt remains, and I thought it was just me, so im glad someone else mentioned it. I very recently stopped using ipedal and am back to using auto regen. I noticed the jolt is much less prominent when using auto stop. But even with it enabled, if I use the paddle to come to a complete stop, the jolt remains. I know its not a friction brake or whatever issue, cause if I use cruise control, and it stops because of traffic , and I start it up again when traffic gets moving, its completely fine.

I'm going nuts about it. its a small thing I cant stop noticing!

You’re having a hard time with accelerating smoothly from a stop? The only time I’ve noticed that is when Auto Hold is engaged. Otherwise it should be very smooth to begin moving.

 

[Jusanotherguy]

You’re having a hard time with accelerating smoothly from a stop? The only time I’ve noticed that is when Auto Hold is engaged. Otherwise it should be very smooth to begin moving.

Yeah, whenever I accelerate from a stop, whether or from ipedal or paddle stop, even if im lightly tapping the accelerator, there'd be a jolt forward, kinda like releasing the handbrake while accelerating.

 

[gvjim]

Otherwise it should be very smooth to begin moving.

Same here - super smooth. In fact sometimes at a stoplight I realize I'm causing the car to creep with no sensation at all.

 

[ideutsch]

Yeah, whenever I accelerate from a stop, whether or from ipedal or paddle stop, even if im lightly tapping the accelerator, there'd be a jolt forward, kinda like releasing the handbrake while accelerating.

There might be something wrong. I occasionally notice a jolt when stopping, but not with starting.