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Tire Issues - Problems, Longevity, etc.

CEFFYL

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I have a 2012 Ultimate with Continental tires. The car was purchased late April 2012, and I currently have just under 25,000 miles on the clock, or about 1,400 miles per month.

Today, I replaced a second rear tire. The first succumbed to an unrepairable sidewall puncture. The second had an unspecified defect. In recent week, it was losing a couple of lbs. of air pressure a week, until the rate jumped to 1 lb. of air pressure per hour last night and this morning.

It seems that the dashboard warning light does not come on until air pressure drops to about 22 lbs. That is slightly more than 25% of the recommended pressure of 30 lbs. Because of the relatively low profile of these Continental tires, and because the tire in question is the rear right which is out of view when I enter the driver's seat, a pressure problem can be difficult to spot until well advanced. Yes, I know that tire pressure should be tested periodically, and probably more frequently than I have been doing. Nevertheless, the dashboard warning doesn't alert until it is almost too late and it is otherwise difficult to notice when a tire is slack.

Added to this tale of woe, my car has been pulling to one side. I had the alignment checked. The right front tire has apparently had its belts warped and needs to be replaced. This area has had a lot of construction work on the local interstate highways, and my tires have been taking a pounding.

Question. Now that Equus models have been on the road in fairly good numbers, and miles are piling up on the clock, have Continental tires, in general, proved to be a good choice for you, or are they becoming problematic? In the past, on my Lexus LS 430, I was pleased with the performance of Michelin (the Dunlops that came on the car wore out very quickly). I don't want to perpetuate a problem and keep replacing tires of the same brand and type one at a time. If the Continentals are just not robust enough, I would rather replace them all with a better tire at one time and be done.

Any thoughts that you may wish to share would be appreciated.
 
I have a Genesis sedan, but when one of my OEM Dunlop tires went bad at about 20K miles due to very uneven wear, I replaced all four Dunlop tires with Michelin's even though the other tires had some decent tread on them. Then I immediately had an alignment done at a suspension shop where they test drive the car multiple times until the alignment is right, and don't just solely rely on "specs."

In my experience it is almost impossible to align the wheels unless you do it right after installing brand new tires on both sides of the axle where the alignment is being done.
 
The Cont suck. I had the same problem. Low rim over a curb busted tire. Had to buy two the busted one and the other at 16K. the other was almost worn out and the computer will screw up if they are off.
 
I have a Genesis sedan, but when one of my OEM Dunlop tires went bad at about 20K miles due to very uneven wear, I replaced all four Dunlop tires with Michelin's even though the other tires had some decent tread on them. Then I immediately had an alignment done at a suspension shop where they test drive the car multiple times until the alignment is right, and don't just solely rely on "specs."

In my experience it is almost impossible to align the wheels unless you do it right after installing brand new tires on both sides of the axle where the alignment is being done.

Alignment equipment attaches to the wheels and/or to other suspension components depending on the vehicle. Tire wear does not effect the measurements and calibrations of the geometry of the suspension when preforming an alignment service. Installing other than OEM size tires may require adjusting the suspension geometry away from OEM specs.
 
I have a 2012 Ultimate with Continental tires. The car was purchased late April 2012, and I currently have just under 25,000 miles on the clock, or about 1,400 miles per month.



Today, I replaced a second rear tire. The first succumbed to an unrepairable sidewall puncture. The second had an unspecified defect. In recent week, it was losing a couple of lbs. of air pressure a week, until the rate jumped to 1 lb. of air pressure per hour last night and this morning.



It seems that the dashboard warning light does not come on until air pressure drops to about 22 lbs. That is slightly more than 25% of the recommended pressure of 30 lbs. Because of the relatively low profile of these Continental tires, and because the tire in question is the rear right which is out of view when I enter the driver's seat, a pressure problem can be difficult to spot until well advanced. Yes, I know that tire pressure should be tested periodically, and probably more frequently than I have been doing. Nevertheless, the dashboard warning doesn't alert until it is almost too late and it is otherwise difficult to notice when a tire is slack.



Added to this tale of woe, my car has been pulling to one side. I had the alignment checked. The right front tire has apparently had its belts warped and needs to be replaced. This area has had a lot of construction work on the local interstate highways, and my tires have been taking a pounding.



Question. Now that Equus models have been on the road in fairly good numbers, and miles are piling up on the clock, have Continental tires, in general, proved to be a good choice for you, or are they becoming problematic? In the past, on my Lexus LS 430, I was pleased with the performance of Michelin (the Dunlops that came on the car wore out very quickly). I don't want to perpetuate a problem and keep replacing tires of the same brand and type one at a time. If the Continentals are just not robust enough, I would rather replace them all with a better tire at one time and be done.



Any thoughts that you may wish to share would be appreciated.


This tire has received extraordinary reviews. I know only one person who has them ( they're very new), but he says they are like no tire he's ever owned.

http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/1305_michelin_pilot_sport_as_3/
 
Haha ... before even clicking that link I was thinking "Just go buy some Michelin Pilot Sports" and be happy :D


I have serious tire anger issues right now, and it's really impossible to go anywhere without passing a tire retailer. My OEM Continentals easily have another 15,000 miles left on them and I absolutely hate them. My Dunlop Wintersport 3D, another 10,000+ miles, and I hate them too.

I should just do it:

The Pilot Sport A/S 3s on my 19" rims and some Blizzaks or X-Ice-3s on dedicated 18s!
:D
 
With 3,000 miles on my 2014 Equus Ultimate, my experience with the stock tires has been fairly good.

I purchased this car for its comfortable highway ride and it hasn't disappointed. However, my only complaint with the tires is that after the car rests in the garage overnight, it takes about ten miles of driving for them to deliver a smooth ride. The first ten miles or so is less than desirable, but as stated, it smooths out fairly quickly.

This tire problem is not unique as Mercedes S-Class owners report similar issues when equipped with these tires.

In reality, there is no such thing as a perfect product...everything has trade offs. While it would be nice if the tires performed better the first few miles, the highway driving experience, in my opinion, is the best for any car in this price range.
 
My 2012 Equus Ultimate with 14,000 miles has the same issue for the first few miles; they feel like square tires until they warm up.

Have had them road force balanced twice after 6,000 miles.

The RF tire has had a very slow leak, about 1/2 pound per week.

I will replace these with another brand when they are worn out. They're not terrible, but I have had better tires.
 
With 3,000 miles on my 2014 Equus Ultimate, my experience with the stock tires has been fairly good.

I purchased this car for its comfortable highway ride and it hasn't disappointed. However, my only complaint with the tires is that after the car rests in the garage overnight, it takes about ten miles of driving for them to deliver a smooth ride. The first ten miles or so is less than desirable, but as stated, it smooths out fairly quickly.

This tire problem is not unique as Mercedes S-Class owners report similar issues when equipped with these tires.

In reality, there is no such thing as a perfect product...everything has trade offs. While it would be nice if the tires performed better the first few miles, the highway driving experience, in my opinion, is the best for any car in this price range.

Flat spotting overnight happens somewhat with all tires. Tires that have more nylon cord in their construction will flat spot worse and it takes a while for them to warm up and to flex. Polyester cord flat spots less and warms faster. If you research tire construction you will find that manufacturers use various combinations of rayon, polyester, aramid, nylon, and steel cords.
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