tire rotattion

[circuitest1]

Took my car to the dealer yesterday for oil change and tire rotation. When i checked the car I saw that the dealer moved front passenger side tire to rear passenger side ( I can tell because front rim had a small nick)

I have always changed my tires in an X pattern. Is it correct for Genesis 3.8 RWD tires to be moved from front to back on same side? I would appreciate your input before I take the car back to the dealer.

 

[homeofstone]

Do you have the standard tires or the optional staggered setup? Also the tech may have not paid attention and thought you had staggered set up even if you don't.

 

[xsolara]

He has a 3.8L and they have standard tires...check the manual it shows how it should be done

 

[Mark_888]

I think it is a big mistake to have a dealer do tire rotations, unless it is free. Take it to a tire expert (like Discount Tires, or Costco Tires) where their techs are tire experts.

 

[Midnightsun]

Took my car to the dealer yesterday for oil change and tire rotation. When i checked the car I saw that the dealer moved front passenger side tire to rear passenger side ( I can tell because front rim had a small nick)

I have always changed my tires in an X pattern. Is it correct for Genesis 3.8 RWD tires to be moved from front to back on same side? I would appreciate your input before I take the car back to the dealer.

Many tires are directional today so you can only change from front to back on the same side. If they are not directional then a cross pattern can be done.

 

[circuitest1]

Re: tire rotation

Many tires are directional today so you can only change from front to back on the same side. If they are not directional then a cross pattern can be done.

Thanks for the input. I did not know that some of the new car tires are directional. I have the factory replacement Michelin. I will check the specifications for my Michelin tires.

If tires are directional i do not think that the cost of rotating them from front to back will be justified. In such a case it seems to me that making sure that the wheels are correctly aligned would be a better investment.

 

[lobsenza]

The rotation should be a modified X. Fronts cross to the rear, rear straight to the front. All lug nuts should be hand torqued to the same torque spec.

 

[Mark_888]

Re: tire rotation

Thanks for the input. I did not know that some of the new car tires are directional. I have the factory replacement Michelin. I will check the specifications for my Michelin tires.

If tires are directional i do not think that the cost of rotating them from front to back will be justified. In such a case it seems to me that making sure that the wheels are correctly aligned would be a better investment.

If tires are directional, they usually have an arrow on the sidewall showing the direction they should be mounted for. Or you can get the exact model and size of the tire from the sidewall and check the manufacturer website. Some tires are directional, but most are not.

 

[kn5owa]

Re: tire rotation

If tires are directional i do not think that the cost of rotating them from front to back will be justified. In such a case it seems to me that making sure that the wheels are correctly aligned would be a better investment.

Warning: Directional or otherwise, if you buy tires from Costco, they WILL NOT honor the after sale warranty unless they are rotated pursuant to their rather strict instructions. They now specify on the bill of sale the exact mileage when they expect the car back for tire rotation. This includes free tire rotation under the warranty if you exceed their mileage specification. They will not do it.

Costco, Michelin, & Walmart got hit with huge, unpublished lawsuits involving tires a few years ago. And when you see something like Costco's policy, there's usually a lawsuit in the background. By way of example, Ikea just yesterday got hit with a $50 Million judgement, which was actually publicized. But no tires involved there.

 

[Mark_888]

Re: tire rotation

Warning: Directional or otherwise, if you buy tires from Costco, they WILL NOT honor the after sale warranty unless they are rotated pursuant to their rather strict instructions. They now specify on the bill of sale the exact mileage when they expect the car back for tire rotation. This includes free tire rotation under the warranty if you exceed their mileage specification. They will not do it.

As you noted, Costco does free rotations every 7500 miles for tires purchased from them. They fill with nitrogen also, which helps reduce loss of tire pressure over time.

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[glennk]

Discount Tire recommended against rotating the tires on my staggered set-up. I do have the replacement certificates and was told that rotation wasn't required.

 

[mcginnpm]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=43

 

[digmyGenesis]

in the manual it says "The wheel lug nut should be tightened to 65~79 lb.ft (9~11 kg.m)."

what should I do? 65? 79?

I have 2015 Genesis Sedan 3.8 AWD Tech Pkg (Canada)
18 Inch factory rims with Continental tires.

 

[Mark_888]

in the manual it says "The wheel lug nut should be tightened to 65~79 lb.ft (9~11 kg.m)."

what should I do? 65? 79?

I have 2015 Genesis Sedan 3.8 AWD Tech Pkg (Canada)
18 Inch factory rims with Continental tires.

Try the middle. Torque wrenches are not as accurate as you think.

 

[BARRYW]

Re: tire rotation

If they are not directional, it does not make any difference. My vehicles over the years are all wheel drive. I have rotated and not rotated and the tire wear is about the same for each vehicle. If you pay for rotation at each specified interval you will have more than paid for one tire by the time they need replacement, providing you use a quality tire. So I just leave them alone now.

 

[need4spd]

Depends on the car, I know for sure of several that we own absolutely need it as some tires wear faster than others, for example a XC90 awd that wears through the fronts, and my Genny 3.8 AWD that had 2/32nd more wear on the rear than the front at 6k miles (I would expect that in a rear driver, like a car I used to have). It all depends on how the car is set up to pull (ie front vs rear most of the time) how you drive too, including if mostly city vs mostly highway. For mostly city, the passenger front takes a beating with all the turns you make. Highway is always best for tire wear (and other wear items)

Most AWD systems are not equal torque to all 4 wheels, including the genny,