What would be the reasons someone may have changed out the wheels?

[WiffleBallHero]

Hi,

New member here, and hopefully an owner of a Genesis soon. I am currently looking at buying a 2012 Hyundai Genesis 4.6, with 29,000 miles from a dealer. I took it for a test drive yesterday and found that it was all around a fantastic car.

I noticed, however, that the wheels on the this particular car were not the original Hankook Venus tires, but actually Michelin ones. On top of this, the Michelin tires were nearly bald, especially the rear wheels (which may have meant that the tires were recently rotated). I was seeking some advice on what may have prompted the previous owner to change the tires at such low mileage.

Should I be worried about an accident or else having caused this tire replacement? I was under the impression that most tires are rated at around 50k miles, and even if the previous owner did not want the stock Hankook tires, the Michelin ones should not be this bald at this mileage. Would someone please shed some light on this?

 

[amartz]

V8, with nearly bald rear tires?? Imagine that....

 

[Huddleston]

Hi,

New member here, and hopefully an owner of a Genesis soon. I am currently looking at buying a 2012 Hyundai Genesis 4.6, with 29,000 miles from a dealer. I took it for a test drive yesterday and found that it was all around a fantastic car.

I noticed, however, that the wheels on the this particular car were not the original Hankook Venus tires, but actually Michelin ones. On top of this, the Michelin tires were nearly bald, especially the rear wheels (which may have meant that the tires were recently rotated). I was seeking some advice on what may have prompted the previous owner to change the tires at such low mileage.

Should I be worried about an accident or else having caused this tire replacement? I was under the impression that most tires are rated at around 50k miles, and even if the previous owner did not want the stock Hankook tires, the Michelin ones should not be this bald at this mileage. Would someone please shed some light on this?

I wouldn't over think it especially if the other maintenance items have been taken care of. owners could have changed tires for any number of reasons. just be sure if you are buying from a dealer they factor new tires into the deal.

 

[WiffleBallHero]

V8, with nearly bald rear tires?? Imagine that....

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Is the V8 that much heavier to cause such drastic wear? Or are you saying that someone with this car may have driven hard, causing the wear? Either way, while I was planning on replacing the wheels anyway, I didn't know if I should be cautious of buying this vehicle based on this fact.

 

[Huddleston]

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Is the V8 that much heavier to cause such drastic wear? Or are you saying that someone with this car may have driven hard, causing the wear? Either way, while I was planning on replacing the wheels anyway, I didn't know if I should be cautious of buying this vehicle based on this fact.

he is saying someone that purchased the v8 may be more prone to driving the car in a spirited manner causing the tires to wear out a bit early.

have a PPI done by a qualified mechanic and check the maintenance history.

 

[WiffleBallHero]

he is saying someone that purchased the v8 may be more prone to driving the car in a spirited manner causing the tires to wear out a bit early.

have a PPI done by a qualified mechanic and check the maintenance history.

Ah okay, that would make sense in that case. Because the nearest Hyundai dealer (from which I would be getting a PPI) from the dealership is 35 miles away, the dealer would not allow me to take it there. However, we have agreed to make a condition in the contract saying that if there is any damage not covered by the warranty, and differed from the carfax, requiring repairs above $500, then the contract would be invalid. Which basically would mean that I would be able to return the car. Now to word that into the contract...

Is there any particular thing to look for in these used Genesis? I'm guessing there is no quick and easy way to check for rust or water damage.

 

[PMCErnie]

Wheels and tires are two different things.

It's very easy to have a car inspected by a third party expert near the dealer. Or, you can ask the dealer to put it up on a lift for your inspection. Your call.

 

[Huddleston]

Ah okay, that would make sense in that case. Because the nearest Hyundai dealer (from which I would be getting a PPI) from the dealership is 35 miles away, the dealer would not allow me to take it there. However, we have agreed to make a condition in the contract saying that if there is any damage not covered by the warranty, and differed from the carfax, requiring repairs above $500, then the contract would be invalid. Which basically would mean that I would be able to return the car. Now to word that into the contract...

Is there any particular thing to look for in these used Genesis? I'm guessing there is no quick and easy way to check for rust or water damage.

35 miles doesn't seem like an unreasonable distance to drive the car for a PPI. If the dealer is serious about you buying it I would think they'd allow this.

Maybe I am crazy but I would push to have the PPI done at the Hyundai dealer - I think this would be far easier to deal with then having to go back and spend time in court over a contract issue.

 

[jlindh]

My 2012 4.6 came with Michelin tires new. I suspect that you're looking at the original set of tires on the car.

 

[guybo]

Sounds like the former owner beat the hell out of the car. Any bald tires (esp rears) after only 29k miles means that the person drove it hard and used the tires up.

I'd avoid that car myself- at very least have it inspected thoroughly stem to stern and have all the codes read. The former owner drove it hard and may have neglicted the extra maintenance that requires. If you beat on a car but put the money and time into maintaining it, you're getting a boat load of hidden problems.

But if the former owner was an obsessive car person and took care of it and drove it hard too, it may actually be a better car than your normal vehicle is because those sorts of cars are driven hard and very well maintained. So that car sounds to me like a bit of gamble.

Does the car have any after-market parts? Of course, often those parts are removed and resold and OEM parts re-installed before trade in.

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[Mark_888]

My 2012 4.6 came with Michelin tires new. I suspect that you're looking at the original set of tires on the car.

That is correct. Only the 2015 came with Hankook's (but later recalled and replaced with something else).

I believe that all 2009-2011 came with Dunlop's, but there may be some exceptions. Also, the 2012-14 5.0 R-Spec may come with summer tires such as Continentals, but not sure the details on this.

But definitely no Hankook's until 2015.

 

[LandoAWD]

You have a coupe, right Guy?
I believe you said this to me yesterday:

You have a sedan anyway moron, go away and enjoy your grocery getter.

I think you may have stumbled into the wrong forum. I mean, if you had a sedan prior to your coupe...

Also, the 2012-14 5.0 R-Spec may come with summer tires such as Continentals, but not sure the details on this.

Contis were the tire of choice on the CPO and listed as OE.

 

[WiffleBallHero]

Sounds like the former owner beat the hell out of the car. Any bald tires (esp rears) after only 29k miles means that the person drove it hard and used the tires up.

I'd avoid that car myself- at very least have it inspected thoroughly stem to stern and have all the codes read. The former owner drove it hard and may have neglicted the extra maintenance that requires. If you beat on a car but put the money and time into maintaining it, you're getting a boat load of hidden problems.

But if the former owner was an obsessive car person and took care of it and drove it hard too, it may actually be a better car than your normal vehicle is because those sorts of cars are driven hard and very well maintained. So that car sounds to me like a bit of gamble.

Does the car have any after-market parts? Of course, often those parts are removed and resold and OEM parts re-installed before trade in.

That's what I was thinking until I drove a similar mileage Genesis sedan 3.8. The 4.6 just seemed to be quieter and more well maintained from my impression, but that could just be the bigger engine. The only after-market parts is the wheel caps, hood and trunk badge have all been replaced with the Genesis wing symbol.

 

[amartz]

he is saying someone that purchased the v8 may be more prone to driving the car in a spirited manner causing the tires to wear out a bit early.

I have followed closely somebody driving a V8 thru a corner, watching the rear-end kick out as he stabbed it, followed by some countering steering wheel to get it back in line. I'm not at all surprised at more wear on the rear tires. BTW, my V6 was much more composed, following on his bumper. Wasn't until we had enough straight road that he could put his V8 to work and get out of my way. At least until the next corner...

 

[Dawg]

I personally would not sweat it.. If those tires were not rotated then yes they would be eat up by 29K miles. I did a poor job rotating my last set of tires (Nittos) and they were eat up at 35K...well, two at least were eat up which prompted me to replace all four and do a better job rotating the tires every 5K miles. Even the tire shop guy told me it was imperative to rotate the tires on this vehicle. I have Hankooks now after 20K miles they are wearing very well..