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What's the point of BlueLink?

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So I have had my car now for a year, and the trial period/first year subscription to BlueLink has ended. I sat down and looked at the price of the package and the benefits they allegedly provide. And I couldn't find anything that would justify the renewal price for me.

The fist package is the Connected Care Package which is offered for $99 after the 1 year trial period is over.

Listed "benefits":
  • Automatic Diagnostic Trouble Code Notification
  • Service Link
  • On-Demand Diagnostics
  • Enhanced Roadside Assistance
  • Genesis Intelligent Assistant App
  • Monthly Vehicle Health Report
  • Driving Information
  • Automatic Collision Notification (ACN)
  • SOS Emergency Assistance

These things are mostly useless. In the one year I had these things available, I have used none of this information to my benefit. Just an example:

Service Link - Conveniently schedule a Car Care Appointment with your preferred service dealer right from your vehicle.

Basically, it calls the number of your preferred dealer service department. Or, you can program that number into your cell phone once and say "Call Service Department" for free.

Enhanced Roadside Assistance - Blue Link provides your vehicle's location and account information automatically so you don't have to worry about knowing where you are when you need assistance.

Or, you look at your Navigation system/Google Maps/Apple Maps for free and tell the roadside assistance operator where you are located because your navigation system / cell phone has the same exact information.

Automatic Collision Notification (ACN) and SOS Emergency Assistance seem somewhat useful if you have an accident in a less populated area, otherwise someone will call emergency services if you can't do that yourself. I have had no opportunity to try these features (knock on wood), but this seems to be designed for people who are scared that help won't come if they have an injury accident - not a very likely event in my opinion, but for some it may be worth for peace of mind. It remains to be seen how good the BlueLink coverage would be in areas with low population density, where this would be the most useful.


The next package is the Remote Package, which also costs $99 per year, and requires the Connected Care Package. If you don't care about the Connected Care Package, you still have to pay the $99 to be able to get access to the Remote Package, so the real cost is $198.

This package has a long list of benefits:

  • Remote Door Lock
  • Remote Door Unlock
  • Remote Vehicle Start**
  • Remote Horn & Lights
  • Car Finder***
  • Stolen Vehicle Recovery
  • Stolen Vehicle Slowdown
  • Stolen Vehicle Immobilization
  • Curfew Alert †
  • Valet Alert †
  • Panic Notification
  • Alarm Notification
  • Geo-fence †
  • Speed Alert †

Some of the remote features are slightly useful, i.e. if you forgot to lock your car or if you would like to start the vehicle to heat up/cool down the interior prior to getting to the car. In my experience, more than 50% of the times I tried to use any of the remote features they simply failed. In some locations I got a 100% failure rate (Austin, TX airport, parked on an outside lot) when attempting to try the remote start feature. I felt like buying a lottery ticket every time the feature actually worked as advertised.

I have a lot of these messages in my email inbox:

Your request for Remote Start with Climate Control on XX/XX/201X at XX:XX pm CST was not processed. The feature is currently unavailable. Please try again later.

I have many fewer messages like this:

Your request for Remote Start with Climate Control on XX/XX/201X at XX:XX pm CST was successful. Your vehicle ignition is now on. Please ensure it is in a well ventilated area.

Overall, every successful remote start probably cost me over $5, if I take the $99 yearly fee and divide it by the number of successful remote start attempts (less than 20). The remote start feature is frustrating difficult to use, as it requires you to start an app on your phone (I have a pretty common Galaxy S6 Android phone), which frequently forgets my user name and password. So I have to type in both user name and password almost every time I want to use the app., even though I checked the "Keep me logged in" box in the start screen. Once inside the app, you have to push a small "Remote" button on the bottom of the screen, then the "Start" button. Which usually results in the Your request for Remote Start with Climate Control on XX/XX/201X at XX:XX pm CST was not processed. The feature is currently unavailable. Please try again later. message. With a > 50% failure rate this is just not worth the hassle.

OK, so what about the other features. Any "Stolen vehicle stuff" doesn't really interest me. First off, I have never had a vehicle stolen, secondly, I have insurance and probably wouldn't want my vehicle back after it was stolen for a joy ride, to remove parts or had been used by people unknown to me for whatever purpose they stole the vehicle for. Once the car is stolen, it becomes a police/insurance issue, both of which I already pay for. The nanny features (Curfew alert, Speed alert) have zero value to me, since I don't have anyone that I need to monitor driving my car. Maybe if you have a driving teenager in your family, but for me this is useless... I wouldn't let anyone I don't trust drive this car anyway, so if I had a teenager they'd get a 10 year old Honda Civic with the smallest engine or something along those lines (my first car had 60 non Turbo Diesel HP, and I did just fine).

Which leads us to the final package, the Guidance Package, for another $99 (but requires the two previous packages, so really only available if you pay $297

  • Turn-by-turn Navigation
  • Destination Search Powered By Google®
  • Poi Web Search And Download

This seems to be the most useful package, but anyone who has Android Auto or Apple Car Play has similar features for free, instead of paying $297 per year for this convenience. Basically, anyone but the drivers of the highest end Genesis models (Ultimate) get this as a free update, the people who paid $50,000+ for their cars get the privilege to pay an additional fee to get this luxury. My phone already does all this at no extra charge, so having this feature is kind of redundant. The advantage of having this integrated in the vehicles Navigation system is the larger screen, center console display and the HUD integration. For $297 per year, I'll pass.

Maybe my logic is flawed or I am not seeing something of value? What's your opinion on the value of BlueLink???
 
I came to the same conclusion. My service is up for renewal in April. I tried to cancel the service and/or the renewal on the Bluelink website, but they won't allow that. You must call them directly to cancel.
 
You can call them by hitting the button on the mirror and if you express that you feel like you don't see any value and it's too much money they will negotiate with you. I was able to get a one year package with all of the services for a little less than half of what the listed price is. I also have found a few of the features to be very useful, ie the send directions to the car, the google search, and especially the remote start.

Mat
 
i find all the features useless except for the remote start, unlock/lock, and horn. i use the remote start nearly everyday. on my iphone there is a widget available. i can start the car in about 10 seconds and have a very high sucess rate. like 90%. i would prefer it to be free and part of the keyfob. i would trade the distance the app provides for free and on my key fob.
 
I agree 100%. Plus, whenever someone requires my credit card number in order for me to try their "free" service, I usually will not participate because I anticipate a hard-sell when I don't want to continue the service. (Do a web search on cancelling Sirius radio for some horror stories of cancelling a service once they have your card number.)
 
I agree that it's a bit pricey, but I like the remote start, and the send to car from Google. That works great from the web, the app, or voice recognition in the car.
If there is a deal on renewal as listed above, I'll keep it.

I know that the G80 and G90 come with 3 years of service. Not sure if that's all 3 packages, but if so, that helps a lot.
 
Which leads us to the final package, the Guidance Package, for another $99 (but requires the two previous packages, so really only available if you pay $297

  • Turn-by-turn Navigation
  • Destination Search Powered By Google®
  • Poi Web Search And Download

This seems to be the most useful package, but anyone who has Android Auto or Apple Car Play has similar features for free, instead of paying $297 per year for this convenience. Basically, anyone but the drivers of the highest end Genesis models (Ultimate) get this as a free update, the people who paid $50,000+ for their cars get the privilege to pay an additional fee to get this luxury. My phone already does all this at no extra charge, so having this feature is kind of redundant. The advantage of having this integrated in the vehicles Navigation system is the larger screen, center console display and the HUD integration. For $297 per year, I'll pass.

Maybe my logic is flawed or I am not seeing something of value? What's your opinion on the value of BlueLink???

I purchased my Ultimate used and have the navigation in there. I haven't signed up for BlueLink simply because I detest that I would need to pay a subscription for the only feature I found useful (remote start) when a Chevy Cruze i once rented had it built into the keyfob. Are you saying that I need a subscription for the navigation in my Ultimate to work, and that I have it because the previous owner's sub is still running? That would really be disgusting of Hyundai.
 
I purchased my Ultimate used and have the navigation in there. I haven't signed up for BlueLink simply because I detest that I would need to pay a subscription for the only feature I found useful (remote start) when a Chevy Cruze i once rented had it built into the keyfob. Are you saying that I need a subscription for the navigation in my Ultimate to work, and that I have it because the previous owner's sub is still running? That would really be disgusting of Hyundai.

Hello zeez,

The Navigation system in the Ultimate spec Genesis works without any additional fees. But (big BUT) based on my knowledge/experience:

  1. The map information is outdated the day you get the car, as it comes off of the SD card in the SD card slot in the dash. Map updates cost US$169 (download, and you transfer the data to the car yourself using the original SD card) or $229 (new SD card shipped to you). This fee is not for a subscription, it's for a one-time map update, so you pay that every time you want a newer version of the map (for the Genesis that's twice a year).
  2. The traffic information in your Navigation system requires an active SiriusXM subscription with an add on package. That's independent of the map updates. It also doesn't work anywhere near as well as the free Google Maps application on my phone, as I just experienced 30 minutes ago while driving home.
  3. Using the Genesis voice control in my 2015 car (button on the steering wheel) has an extremely high failure rate (I would guess more than 80%) for addresses and phone numbers. Using the BlueLink feature, which uses Google services to find your destination works almost all of the time, but requires the $297 BlueLink subscription I mentioned in my original posting. People claim that the voice recognition feature has gotten better with subsequent updates to the map software, but I am not paying a minimum of US$169 to find out that the car can approach the level of voice recognition that would make this a useful feature

In other words - to make full use of the Navigation system you need to subscribe to an advanced SiriusXM package (with traffic), and update your maps on a regular basis (unless there isn't much construction going on where you live and drive to). The Austin, TX area seems to change constantly, with new roads, new neighborhoods and tons of new POIs (points of interest) weekly.

If you have a non Ultimate spec car, you get Google Maps (actually Android Auto) as a free update to your navigation system, and you get up-to-date Google Map POI's, maps, traffic and voice integration at no charge. Springing for the "Ultimate" version of the Genesis seemingly makes Hyundai think that they can milk the owners by adding three additional subscriptions (SiriusXM, BlueLink, and regular map updates) for the same abilities ...

TL;DR: You will not lose access to your current map version, but any additional features (traffic, map updates, better voice integration) will cost you in the form of three additional charges.
 
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Here is why I have Blue Link. I am a retired Deputy Sheriff. Over the last ten years I worked, I or someone in my department responded to a number of emergency calls initiated mostly by On-Star, which is similar to Blue Link. We responded to accidents, heart attack calls and just about everything you can imagine in the way of emergencies. But, one call stands out and is one of the main reasons I have kept an active subscription to On-Star or of late, Blue Link. My partner and I were working the overnight shift and we were dispatched to call from On-Star reporting an accident with airbag deployment. We were told that On-star was not able to make contact with anyone from the vehicle. We proceeded to the area of the call, a rural county road (the County I worked is very rural) in an attempt to locate the accident. We got the location from On-star, but could not locate the accident, or any sign of an accident. A short time later, additional emergency personal arrived in the area. We continued to go up and down this stretch of road attempting to locate the accident. About 20 minutes later, one of the other officers assisting, who got out of his cruiser and was walking the roadway shoulder found signs were a car had gone off the road and down into a deep ravine. We found the car and the two occupants, both of whom were unconscious but would survive. Without the use of On-star, no one would have located this accident for days or even weeks, if at all. Those two people owe their life to On-star. There are other similar stories I can tell similar to this, but this one definitely was a life or death situation. Now, I understand the odds of this ever happening to one of us is nearly non-existent, but if it ever did, Blue Link or On-star could save you life. Being that 90% of the driving I do is on these same rural roads, Blue Link is something I will subscribe to as long as I own my Genesis and in whatever car I own next.
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Here is why I have Blue Link. I am a retired Deputy Sheriff. Over the last ten years I worked, I or someone in my department responded to a number of emergency calls initiated mostly by On-Star, which is similar to Blue Link. We responded to accidents, heart attack calls and just about everything you can imagine in the way of emergencies. But, one call stands out and is one of the main reasons I have kept an active subscription to On-Star or of late, Blue Link. My partner and I were working the overnight shift and we were dispatched to call from On-Star reporting an accident with airbag deployment. We were told that On-star was not able to make contact with anyone from the vehicle. We proceeded to the area of the call, a rural county road (the County I worked is very rural) in an attempt to locate the accident. We got the location from On-star, but could not locate the accident, or any sign of an accident. A short time later, additional emergency personal arrived in the area. We continued to go up and down this stretch of road attempting to locate the accident. About 20 minutes later, one of the other officers assisting, who got out of his cruiser and was walking the roadway shoulder found signs were a car had gone off the road and down into a deep ravine. We found the car and the two occupants, both of whom were unconscious but would survive. Without the use of On-star, no one would have located this accident for days or even weeks, if at all. Those two people owe their life to On-star. There are other similar stories I can tell similar to this, but this one definitely was a life or death situation. Now, I understand the odds of this ever happening to one of us is nearly non-existent, but if it ever did, Blue Link or On-star could save you life. Being that 90% of the driving I do is on these same rural roads, Blue Link is something I will subscribe to as long as I own my Genesis and in whatever car I own next.

Hello mjbuck,

Thank you for responding and describing your experience. I think this is a great example of where On-Star or BlueLink are extremely beneficial.

One thing to keep in mind is that BlueLink will only work where there is Verizon 3G cell phone coverage (there are plans to update to 4G LTE apparently, I doubt the Genesis has that tech yet though), at least that's my understanding based on my research about the technology behind BlueLink. I just pulled up a current map of Verizon's cell phone coverage in the US, and there are some huge geographical holes in the map of the US areas that are covered. There are probably very low population areas, but that's where your BlueLink use case would provide the biggest benefit in the first place. Having BlueLink or On-Star will not help in remote areas without cell phone coverage. I just wanted to point that out so people don't have a false sense of security when driving into a National Park or other area with no cell phone coverage.

And also, thank you for being out there helping people - I did a ride along with a local deputy a while ago, and I am glad people like you (and other emergency response service employees) were and are out there going the extra mile to make sure many of us are safely back at home after incidents like the one you described.
 
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I use the remote start all the time, you do realize if you have an android the genesis app comes with a widget. I have it on my homescreen, I just hit the start button, type in my passcode and boom it sends the signal to start. I don't have the best signal around my area so I've found that it takes it abotu 30-40 seconds to start, but it has been 100% success unless my car is not locked (in that case it sends a msg saying your car is unlocked or a door is open). This in itself to me personally (during the winter) is worth the money.
 
Hyundai should have put remote start in the Key IMHO. Bluelink is just a grab for more revenue and tying remote start to the highest package illustrates that.
 
I like it for the Google Search function on the mirror. Works every time
 
I like it for the Google Search function on the mirror. Works every time

I didn't even know this was a feature until the other day, I'm living in a relatively new area and this will come in handy so much!
 
re BLUELINK....the only thing I found useful was the ability to send NAVIGATION info to the car.....Since I have never been successful at giving a voice Navigation command to the car....not one time [and I have updated the map/Nav].
For all of the good features of the car I find the voice recognition for Nav completely useless. I have not renewed BLLUELINK....I would do so if the entire package were $150 / yr or less.
Mike
2015 AWD Ultimate
 
All of the features they offer are worth it for different people in different ways however it is the nickel and diming on a constant basis that is ridiculous! $200 a year so you can use remote start, give me a break. 98% of the people would have been fine with it incorporated into the remote even though the range becomes limited and this is free. How much more to add the Onstar type portion?

Bought a Honda Ridgeline last fall and guess what, it has Hondalink. In a nutshell it cost 0 and does the same as Onstar or Bluelink plus a bunch of other stuff including apps and Car play. Why is it free? Because it automatically uses your bluetooth connection from your phone to dial in the emergency and location such as air bag deployment or whatever. The remote start is built into the remote like they all should be. Heck I can even use my display to surf the web. All those safety features found on the Genesis are found on the Ridgeline and even more. I am very surprised at the amount of features these newer cars/truck contain and they are not even luxury/premium. The navigation system is Garmin based and offers 5 years of free updates whereas we need to pay a couple hundred or more for each one! Checked out the new 2017 CRV for my wife. Has all the features of the Ridgeline and some more. Heck it even has heated and cooled rear seats. Right now it is on my short list. I sometimes wonder why we pay so much for so little and can honestly say if it were not for my V8 AWD I would be swapping sooner than later. Just love that V8. :D
 
Did you guys get the entire Blue Link package for free for the 1st year? My Sonata was free for the 1st year but I just went into myhyundai.com account and noticed they charged me for remote start and my navigation says it expires next month when I just bought the car.
 
Did you guys get the entire Blue Link package for free for the 1st year? My Sonata was free for the 1st year but I just went into myhyundai.com account and noticed they charged me for remote start and my navigation says it expires next month when I just bought the car.

Ryan -
IIRC, it's 1YR on the Connected Care, but 90 days for the NAV and REMOTE features.
 
Hello zeez,

The Navigation system in the Ultimate spec Genesis works without any additional fees. But (big BUT) based on my knowledge/experience:

  1. The map information is outdated the day you get the car, as it comes off of the SD card in the SD card slot in the dash. Map updates cost US$169 (download, and you transfer the data to the car yourself using the original SD card) or $229 (new SD card shipped to you). This fee is not for a subscription, it's for a one-time map update, so you pay that every time you want a newer version of the map (for the Genesis that's twice a year).
  2. The traffic information in your Navigation system requires an active SiriusXM subscription with an add on package. That's independent of the map updates. It also doesn't work anywhere near as well as the free Google Maps application on my phone, as I just experienced 30 minutes ago while driving home.
  3. Using the Genesis voice control in my 2015 car (button on the steering wheel) has an extremely high failure rate (I would guess more than 80%) for addresses and phone numbers. Using the BlueLink feature, which uses Google services to find your destination works almost all of the time, but requires the $297 BlueLink subscription I mentioned in my original posting. People claim that the voice recognition feature has gotten better with subsequent updates to the map software, but I am not paying a minimum of US$169 to find out that the car can approach the level of voice recognition that would make this a useful feature

In other words - to make full use of the Navigation system you need to subscribe to an advanced SiriusXM package (with traffic), and update your maps on a regular basis (unless there isn't much construction going on where you live and drive to). The Austin, TX area seems to change constantly, with new roads, new neighborhoods and tons of new POIs (points of interest) weekly.

If you have a non Ultimate spec car, you get Google Maps (actually Android Auto) as a free update to your navigation system, and you get up-to-date Google Map POI's, maps, traffic and voice integration at no charge. Springing for the "Ultimate" version of the Genesis seemingly makes Hyundai think that they can milk the owners by adding three additional subscriptions (SiriusXM, BlueLink, and regular map updates) for the same abilities ...

TL;DR: You will not lose access to your current map version, but any additional features (traffic, map updates, better voice integration) will cost you in the form of three additional charges.

Hello AustinTX, thank you for explaining all that to me. I'm in Houston, so there is construction here as well ! I can tell that some of the speed limit postings are different than what the Genesis thinks they are, but overall have not had problems with navigation. I don't think I could justify constantly updating the maps (maybe once every couple of years or ever year). I honestly haven't tried the voice controls at all.

From what I gather on this thread, the only two things I've heard of that I would like are:

1) Genesis navigation to account for traffic (Requires Sirius XM .. even though I don't care about their radio)

2) OnStar type emergency stuff. Urban Legend or not, a family member told me they heard a story of someone who was murdered and supposedly the police found the OnStar button had been pushed by the victim earlier but due to no subscription no alert was sent.


Subscriptions are the future for a lot of companies, and it makes sense for them because it locks in a stable cashflow that can be projected, plus small tickets (paper cuts that bleed you to death) are easier for people to digest. Even Adobe moved to a subscription model..
 
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