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What's the point of BlueLink?

By the way, we came through Austin TX in April 2012 on our way to California. Great state in April, not sure about August.

Austin was a nice place when I moved here. Now it's overrun by hipsters and start-ups, traffic gets worse every day, property prices and rents are through the roof. Between June and September you just hope for some heat relief ... still 90's at midnight ... definitely not a great place in August.

Winter and Spring sis allergy season here - my girlfriend is out at her dad's 400 acre ranch with the kids - I stayed at home because I'll be suffering for three days if I spend 30 minutes outside at the ranch (or at home) - Oak, Cedar, mold and grass pollen - we must be the allergy medicine sales capital of the world.

Fall is the best time here, no allergy problems, decent temperatures, less visitors (except F1).

My next move will be to Scotland, I found property there in a village with 350 inhabitants - on the coast, quiet, no traffic (well, they DO drive on the wrong side of the road) and 80F is a very, very hot day. Shopping is 60 miles away, unless you use the little village store for groceries. I can't wait to move there when I'm able to retire ... of course, the damn English want to Brexit, so who knows what mess that all gets into over there ... By the time I'm ready to move Scotland might be it's own country ...

Not sure they have Genesis dealers up there, but it's Land Rover country anyway ... or Subaru I guess ...
 
Like I mentioned before, BlueLink only works when you are within a cell phone reception area. If you crash in the boonies (plenty of boonies here in Texas - lots of areas with no cell phone coverage), BlueLink is worth nothing.

If you crash in a more populated area, your chances of getting help through someone who witnessed your crash and called 911 or probably pretty fair.

BlueLink doesn't help where it would be the most useful - in areas with little traffic and this limited or no cell phone coverage.

I'm not trying to discourage people from having extra protection, I just want to make sure people understand that having BlueLink may give you a false sense of security. If you just went off the road somewhere in West Texas at 3 am in the morning with no traffic around, BlueLink is not going to help anymore than you also useless cell phone ...

My 2 cents, worth as much as your 2 cents ...

Considering original Blue Link uses the nation's largest 3G network and updated Blue Link uses the nation's largest 4G LTE network, the chances that you're covered are pretty good.

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Would my 2016 Base model have the "Original Blue Link" or the "Updated Blue Link"? Just curious.

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Just got done with my 90 day Blue Link trial. I really only cared about or needed remote start, but I went in with an open mind. The remote start only worked about 85% of the time (I was diligent about following the rules of engagement). I guess I'm old school in that I like my remote start on my key fob. Just didn't see the value so I cancelled. All it took was a phone call and they were very nice about it. Didn't try to keep or upsell me. I'm looking to trade my Genesis in a couple of years for another or possibly a G90. Unless they start putting remote start on the key fob it might be a deal breaker though.
 
All of these comments make me wonder about the inability of Hyundai to provide an Apple CarPlay upgrade to the Ultimate package. My iPhone has great mapping ability and cheaper music options. I didn't realize that Sirius was needed for Genesis maps.
 
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"Unless they start putting remote start on the key fob it might be a deal breaker though."

I guess I am not understanding what you are using remote start for. I usually use it to cool down my car before I leave a store where I am shopping. I am almost never within key fob range for this yet my iPhone app works every time no matter the range. Furthermore it only works when the car is locked. If there is a problem it messages me on the app. I can't see the key fob handle this level of sophistication.
 
All of these comments make me wonder about the inability of Hyundai to provide an Apple CarPlay upgrade to the Ultimate package. My iPhone has great mapping ability and cheaper music options. I didn't realize that Sirius was needed for Genesis maps.

Are you sure about that? My Sirius expired months ago and I still have traffic data.
 
The dynamic info (construction sites, incidents, closures, speed limits, etc.) on Genesis maps is from the Telematics link (BlueLink). Interesting to see what would happen if basic bluelink were cancelled, i suppose.
Location (GPS) is provided by the car's hardware and the GPS antenna is probably located in the Sirius XM antenna assembly on the car (sharkfin).
 
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So I have had my car now for a year, and the trial period/first year subscription to BlueLink has ended. I sat down and looked at the price of the package and the benefits they allegedly provide. And I couldn't find anything that would justify the renewal price for me.

The fist package is the Connected Care Package which is offered for $99 after the 1 year trial period is over.

Listed "benefits":
  • Automatic Diagnostic Trouble Code Notification
  • Service Link
  • On-Demand Diagnostics
  • Enhanced Roadside Assistance
  • Genesis Intelligent Assistant App
  • Monthly Vehicle Health Report
  • Driving Information
  • Automatic Collision Notification (ACN)
  • SOS Emergency Assistance

These things are mostly useless. In the one year I had these things available, I have used none of this information to my benefit. Just an example:

Service Link - Conveniently schedule a Car Care Appointment with your preferred service dealer right from your vehicle.

Basically, it calls the number of your preferred dealer service department. Or, you can program that number into your cell phone once and say "Call Service Department" for free.

Enhanced Roadside Assistance - Blue Link provides your vehicle's location and account information automatically so you don't have to worry about knowing where you are when you need assistance.

Or, you look at your Navigation system/Google Maps/Apple Maps for free and tell the roadside assistance operator where you are located because your navigation system / cell phone has the same exact information.

Automatic Collision Notification (ACN) and SOS Emergency Assistance seem somewhat useful if you have an accident in a less populated area, otherwise someone will call emergency services if you can't do that yourself. I have had no opportunity to try these features (knock on wood), but this seems to be designed for people who are scared that help won't come if they have an injury accident - not a very likely event in my opinion, but for some it may be worth for peace of mind. It remains to be seen how good the BlueLink coverage would be in areas with low population density, where this would be the most useful.


The next package is the Remote Package, which also costs $99 per year, and requires the Connected Care Package. If you don't care about the Connected Care Package, you still have to pay the $99 to be able to get access to the Remote Package, so the real cost is $198.

This package has a long list of benefits:

  • Remote Door Lock
  • Remote Door Unlock
  • Remote Vehicle Start**
  • Remote Horn & Lights
  • Car Finder***
  • Stolen Vehicle Recovery
  • Stolen Vehicle Slowdown
  • Stolen Vehicle Immobilization
  • Curfew Alert †
  • Valet Alert †
  • Panic Notification
  • Alarm Notification
  • Geo-fence †
  • Speed Alert †

Some of the remote features are slightly useful, i.e. if you forgot to lock your car or if you would like to start the vehicle to heat up/cool down the interior prior to getting to the car. In my experience, more than 50% of the times I tried to use any of the remote features they simply failed. In some locations I got a 100% failure rate (Austin, TX airport, parked on an outside lot) when attempting to try the remote start feature. I felt like buying a lottery ticket every time the feature actually worked as advertised.

I have a lot of these messages in my email inbox:

Your request for Remote Start with Climate Control on XX/XX/201X at XX:XX pm CST was not processed. The feature is currently unavailable. Please try again later.

I have many fewer messages like this:

Your request for Remote Start with Climate Control on XX/XX/201X at XX:XX pm CST was successful. Your vehicle ignition is now on. Please ensure it is in a well ventilated area.

Overall, every successful remote start probably cost me over $5, if I take the $99 yearly fee and divide it by the number of successful remote start attempts (less than 20). The remote start feature is frustrating difficult to use, as it requires you to start an app on your phone (I have a pretty common Galaxy S6 Android phone), which frequently forgets my user name and password. So I have to type in both user name and password almost every time I want to use the app., even though I checked the "Keep me logged in" box in the start screen. Once inside the app, you have to push a small "Remote" button on the bottom of the screen, then the "Start" button. Which usually results in the Your request for Remote Start with Climate Control on XX/XX/201X at XX:XX pm CST was not processed. The feature is currently unavailable. Please try again later. message. With a > 50% failure rate this is just not worth the hassle.

OK, so what about the other features. Any "Stolen vehicle stuff" doesn't really interest me. First off, I have never had a vehicle stolen, secondly, I have insurance and probably wouldn't want my vehicle back after it was stolen for a joy ride, to remove parts or had been used by people unknown to me for whatever purpose they stole the vehicle for. Once the car is stolen, it becomes a police/insurance issue, both of which I already pay for. The nanny features (Curfew alert, Speed alert) have zero value to me, since I don't have anyone that I need to monitor driving my car. Maybe if you have a driving teenager in your family, but for me this is useless... I wouldn't let anyone I don't trust drive this car anyway, so if I had a teenager they'd get a 10 year old Honda Civic with the smallest engine or something along those lines (my first car had 60 non Turbo Diesel HP, and I did just fine).

Which leads us to the final package, the Guidance Package, for another $99 (but requires the two previous packages, so really only available if you pay $297

  • Turn-by-turn Navigation
  • Destination Search Powered By Google®
  • Poi Web Search And Download

This seems to be the most useful package, but anyone who has Android Auto or Apple Car Play has similar features for free, instead of paying $297 per year for this convenience. Basically, anyone but the drivers of the highest end Genesis models (Ultimate) get this as a free update, the people who paid $50,000+ for their cars get the privilege to pay an additional fee to get this luxury. My phone already does all this at no extra charge, so having this feature is kind of redundant. The advantage of having this integrated in the vehicles Navigation system is the larger screen, center console display and the HUD integration. For $297 per year, I'll pass.

Maybe my logic is flawed or I am not seeing something of value? What's your opinion on the value of BlueLink???
Thank you, very helpful! I was debating to purchase BlueLink or not, - and not anymore after your post.
 
Is BlueLink even available anymore?
It is the backbone of Genesis Connected Services. Just a different wrapper on the app.
 
I never activated mine. Still have messages coming to remind me of the free service.
 
All of these comments make me wonder about the inability of Hyundai to provide an Apple CarPlay upgrade to the Ultimate package. My iPhone has great mapping ability and cheaper music options. I didn't realize that Sirius was needed for Genesis maps.
The 2015 head unit will handle it - it's a software thing. There was a big thread about it. One member actually got it to function but the newer model software didn't recognize the older model amp. So, there was no sound.
 
Is BlueLink even available anymore?
It may be a moot question soon - 2015-16's at least, only have a 3G modem. All the cell carriers will be dropping 3G service in the near future...
 
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