Winter tires?

[GenesisRZ]

Has anyone used their coupe with the stock tires in winter conditions? I am not sure weather or not the stock tires are rated for all weather conditions. Does anyone plan on buying winter tires and if so, which ones? Thanks.

 

[anurbas]

I just bought a set of Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D. I wanted the Blizzacks, but not one place had them in the size I wanted.

I mounted them on a set of aftermarket rims.

 

[MissAdema]

My GC came with all weather tires. I haven't haven't had to try them out yet since the weather here hasn't changed into winter. I had all weather tires on my Tiburons and I was fine. That's the one thing that turned me off about the track. They came with summer/performance tires and I'd have to spend another $800 at least on winter tires.

 

[Waki]

Yes...winter tires. This vehicle will go nowhere in snow/ice and at times will take your breath away. You can get by with two GOOD quality snow tires on the rear. ( Some dealers won't sell you two )
Don't even think about 'all season' tires if you are in a snow area !

 

[GenesisRZ]

Yes...winter tires. This vehicle will go nowhere in snow/ice and at times will take your breath away. You can get by with two GOOD quality snow tires on the rear. ( Some dealers won't sell you two )
Don't even think about 'all season' tires if you are in a snow area !

So are you saying that you don't think the all season tires that the base model comes with will perform well in the snow? Are you basing this on experience?

 

[dtreter]

I just put on Blizzaks on my coupe. I was lucky and got them (4) for $670 and was one of the last sets sold trough Tirerack.

My Genesis sedan did not perform well last winter with the mud/snow tires that came on it. This year, I bought four tires for it through Costco. I am already for our first snow!

Real wheel drive vehicles need snow tires. On front wheel drive cars, all the weight is on the front tires for traction. With rear wheel drive, the weight is more equally distributed so you need snow tires. I drove in the 60's where most cars were rear wheel drive and needed snow tires (2). For liability problems, dealers will only sell four tires because of the traction control.

 

[crhbobby]

I am jealous that you go the Blizzaks at Tirerack.. I tried a month ago but they were sold out of 235/50/18 of the discontinued ones. I should have bought them when I saw them for 122 at tire 3 months ago.

I ordered the Blizzaks LM60s...not here yet. Costing $990 installed with a 4 wheel alignment at a local tire shop. (I always like to align regardless with the purchase of new tires.) The tires are $201 from tire rack, plus shipping.

 

[anurbas]

I went and bought a set of cheap after market rims (17") and bought the below tires. I had them shipped to NTB and it cost me about $80 to have them mounted and balanced.

Tirerack 225/45-17 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D $147.00 $294.00
Tirerack 245/45-17 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D $166.00 $332.00

Shipping $46.49
Rebates $50.00
Total $622.49

 

[Franknspeed]

Pressure sensors needed?

would i need those sensors if I were to get a set of wheels with winter tires? they are 380.- a set alone...
thanks,
Frank

 

[anurbas]

No, technically you don't need the sensors. Although, you will have the tpms light on constently.

I thought about getting them and figured, for an extra $300, I'll pass on them for this year and think about getting them put in for next year.

I believe that you would need to have a garage reset the computer to recognize the sensors. I'm not sure if there is a tool that can be purchased to do this yourself or not.

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[RonP]

Has anyone used their coupe with the stock tires in winter conditions? I am not sure weather or not the stock tires are rated for all weather conditions. Does anyone plan on buying winter tires and if so, which ones? Thanks.

I guess it all depends on what part of the country you live in, city/country, etc. Over the years I owned several rear wheel drive cars,before the days of MS tires, (I live in Milwaukee WI., city) I have never bought snow tires,put weights in the trunk, etc. never felt I needed them. Since I am retired, and don't have to go out untill the plows go through, I am going to try it with out on the Genesis sedan this year.

 

[wild willy]

Drove a GTO in the snow belt for 2 years every day on All-seasons. More power, more torque than the little Genny Cp. If you know how to drive I see no issues. Use your head

 

[Franknspeed]

i drove a 95 Roadmaster Wagon (Lt1, posi rear) for several years in Michigan. The fairly expensive Michelin M+S tires didn't get me up my driveway , which has only a slight grade, nothing steep. No matter how careful, just not enough grip. Thats with 3 bags of salt in the back. stopping on snow was the same, it just slid , very slowly, but just no traction. Maybe those tires weren't the best M+S. But the Coupe's stock R92A's already suck in wet conditions, so I can't imagine them in the snow.
Putting on snowtires made the car absolutely driveable in all conditions, never got stuck , stop and go with plenty of traction. I live in the sticks, hilly gravelroads , not plowed. No problem to get through fresh or compacted snow.
So for me snow's are a must, even though its a lease car. 17's are just so much cheaper than 18's...

Frank

 

[jlevine]

The new Michelin xice x2 are supposedly the best winter tire on the market right now from what I read. Although it is not a high performing winter tire they pretty much beat every other winter tire without studs or chains. I'm thinking of getting a set.

 

[Phil_Collins]

Nokian Hakkapelitas are the snow tires to get. Best snows out there hands down.

 

[Franknspeed]

Agreed, used to have them on my 2.5 RS Subaru. Amazing grip.
You can get them in 18" at about 250-260 each.
Snowtires are money well spent, mostly less than you'd pay as deductible on your car insurance in case of a crash...

 

[UVBINSKUNKD]

I bought a set of Firestone Winterforce tires for the Genesis. I didn't buy the sensors, I figured it was a waste of money. To my surprise, I didn't need them anyhow, the car isn't equipped with them (TPMS Sensors).

I bought the tires online from TireRack.com out of the US. I paid $1350 CDN including all shipping to my door, mounted and balanced. These came mounted on 6 spoke Aluminum rims.

They've been decent and driving with them gives me a lot more confidence in the snow even though I still get a fair bit of wheel spin.

 

[wild willy]

I bought a set of Firestone Winterforce tires for the Genesis. I didn't buy the sensors, I figured it was a waste of money. To my surprise, I didn't need them anyhow, the car isn't equipped with them (TPMS Sensors).

I bought the tires online from TireRack.com out of the US. I paid $1350 CDN including all shipping to my door, mounted and balanced. These came mounted on 6 spoke Aluminum rims.

They've been decent and driving with them gives me a lot more confidence in the snow even though I still get a fair bit of wheel spin.

Let's see a pic

 

[AlaskaGenesis Coupe]

As long as you don't have a Track or R-Spec model, you absolutely DO NOT need winter tires.

I live in Alaska and commute 55+ miles a day one way to work, in mixed driving conditions. I have driven the coupe in 5" of fresh powder, 3" of recently melting slush on top of a base of ice, black ice covered roads, cold pavement, and anything else you can think of.

The stock tires on the car, in conjunction with the traction and stability control keep the car very well composed. Since the launch control cuts power so radically in really slippery stuff, though, it is sometimes necessary to turn it off to actually go anywhere.

The only time I have ever been dead in the water as a result of the conditions was on a steep hill, stopped at a stoplight, and amidst lightly falling snow on top of glazed ice road conditions. I don't think anything short of studs would have helped in that situation anyways.

So I would recommend not wasting money on those winter tires and spending that hard earned money on turbos, exhaust systems, etc.

 

[Disaster]

The new Michelin xice x2 are supposedly the best winter tire on the market right now from what I read. Although it is not a high performing winter tire they pretty much beat every other winter tire without studs or chains. I'm thinking of getting a set.

Nokian Hakkapelitas are the snow tires to get. Best snows out there hands down.

I've run Blizzak LM60's, Michelin XIce2's and General Altimax Artic. All performed beautifully on snow and Ice. Nokian doesn't use the a silica formula like the others, which wears out a little faster, therefore they are supposed to last longer and perform better toward the end of their life. They do, however, have a huge price premium over the others.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=125

As long as you don't have a Track or R-Spec model, you absolutely DO NOT need winter tires.

I live in Alaska and commute 55+ miles a day one way to work, in mixed driving conditions. I have driven the coupe in 5" of fresh powder, 3" of recently melting slush on top of a base of ice, black ice covered roads, cold pavement, and anything else you can think of.

The stock tires on the car, in conjunction with the traction and stability control keep the car very well composed. Since the launch control cuts power so radically in really slippery stuff, though, it is sometimes necessary to turn it off to actually go anywhere.

The only time I have ever been dead in the water as a result of the conditions was on a steep hill, stopped at a stoplight, and amidst lightly falling snow on top of glazed ice road conditions. I don't think anything short of studs would have helped in that situation anyways.

So I would recommend not wasting money on those winter tires and spending that hard earned money on turbos, exhaust systems, etc.

There is more to driving in the winter than going launching from a start and moving in a generally straight line. When things get hairy, real snow tires will steer you around and stop you MUCH faster than all seasons. The difference is night and day.

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