How to tell what wheels will fit?

[fungo45]

I'm looking to get a set of 17" wheels to put my existing winter tires on, and I would prefer to just put them onto a set of used wheels. I don't want to limit myself to just looking for used Genesis wheels, and I'm sure there are cheaper options out there. I was looking at bolt patterns, and it looks like there are a ton of cars out there with the 5x114.3 patterns - including a Sonata. Looking on Tirerack for more info, there wheels that come up for the Sonata that don't for the Genesis. I'm assuming it's the offset? It looks like those are the only thing that differs, at least to my untrained eye. The wheels on tirerack for the Genny range from 30-38mm and the Sonata are 42-45mm. Not sure what the OEM rims for the Sonata are.

Reading around the forums, it looks like the brakes I have on my 09 3.8 are smaller, so 17 inchers should fit fine. I also read that wheels from Ford Escapes and Fusions should fit. If they do, will the TPMS work, or are they Hyundai specific?

 

[TEF]

I was told that Nissan and Ford wheels had the same-sized bolt pattern as the Genesis and that's true. But watch out for the bore diameter - the large hole in the center of all wheels that fits around hub center. In the case of 17-inch Nissan wheels (from 350z), the center bore was slightly too small and one cannot get wheel to fit flush to the hub. While I am not saying that Fords will have the same problem, just be careful that you're not stuck with four wheels that don't fit. If your just going to use these rims for snows, try getting the 17's intended for the base model of Genesis. Mine came from ebay and were virtually brand new for a little over $100 each with shipping. They will also fit perfectly as they're designed for your car.

 

[fungo45]

Thanks for the reply - forgot about bore size. I assume that you can get wheels with a larger bore diameter and use hub centric rings though - right?

I guess I'll keep looking for the OEM rims for cheap - still have some time before winter starts.

 

[TEF]

I know that vendors selling custom alloys offer hub centric adapters to customers depending on their vehicle, but I don't know where one gets these if trying to fit say, a Ford wheel to a Hyundai hub. Moreover, from what I've read, it's important that the center bore snugly fits the hub for reasons of safety, so as to not stress the wheel studs. I am not trying to throw cold water on your posting, but these are the issues I had when considering various wheels for snows on my Genesis.

 

[Southern Boy]

Here’s a data base that you can search to find what OEM wheels will fit your car.
Read how to access the data base and scroll down to enter your Lug Count, Stud Spread in Inches: or Millimeters. The data base will give you all the OEM wheels that will fit those criteria’s.
You need to pay attention to the hub dimensions. The 17” Genesis ha a hub dimension of 67 mm.

http://www.roadkillcustoms.com/hot-...ttern-Cross-Reference-Database.asp?LugCount=5

See the attachment for a complete cross reference of information on TPMS that will work on your car and fit the wheels you buy.

In case the attachment doesn’t work try their web site www.orangetpmsusa.com or call them at 1-888-407-8767

Good luck and remember to check twice and buy once.

 

[krazyfiend]

I assume that you can get wheels with a larger bore diameter and use hub centric rings though - right?

Correct, that's why you will see aftermarket manufacturers of cast (and some forged) wheels make rims with one bore size that usually is in the mid to upper 70's in diameter, so that hub centric rings make the bore size a non-factor (less specific to produce for ie lower cost) since you can see from the post & link above (very helpful, thanks!) how many cars run 5x114.3 and other various bolt patterns.

 

[fungo45]

Here’s a data base that you can search to find what OEM wheels will fit your car.
Read how to access the data base and scroll down to enter your Lug Count, Stud Spread in Inches: or Millimeters. The data base will give you all the OEM wheels that will fit those criteria’s.
You need to pay attention to the hub dimensions. The 17” Genesis ha a hub dimension of 67 mm.

http://www.roadkillcustoms.com/hot-...ttern-Cross-Reference-Database.asp?LugCount=5

See the attachment for a complete cross reference of information on TPMS that will work on your car and fit the wheels you buy.

In case the attachment doesn’t work try their web site www.orangetpmsusa.com or call them at 1-888-407-8767

Good luck and remember to check twice and buy once.

wow - this is great. So I assume that it only makes sense to get wheels with a bore size the same or bigger than 67mm since you can get rings to make them fit.

Looking at the list, it seems that all Hyundai wheels are 5x114.3 with a 67.1 bore. They don't list the Genesis in the database, so it it safe to assume that when you say the Genesis is 67, it's really 67.1, and therefore any Hyundai 17" wheels will fit the Genesis?

 

[fungo45]

Took a leap of faith that the Azera wheels would fit. Found a deal for an OEM chrome set that I couldn't pass up.

Now just need to find a deal on TPMS.

 

[Southern Boy]

Took a leap of faith that the Azera wheels would fit. Found a deal for an OEM chrome set that I couldn't pass up.

Now just need to find a deal on TPMS.

Try this vendor:

SOUTHWEST AUTO PART
#3EAST STATE STREET
LEHI, UTAH 84043
801-664-2514

I purchased four TPMS from this vendor for $85.

Be aware that you still will need new nuts and valves for the TPMS. I got the kits containing these parts from Wal-Mart tire service center for under $3 apiece.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

While we are on the topic of TPMS, I am going to run my winters without TPMS. Other than the light on in the cluster, will I run into any other problems? I am assuming not....

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[fungo45]

While we are on the topic of TPMS, I am going to run my winters without TPMS. Other than the light on in the cluster, will I run into any other problems? I am assuming not....

You won't have any issues that I know of except for the annoying reminder on dash. I ran them that way in my old car, and had no issues, though on the Genny, I am going to get some as it annoyed me.

Another potential issue now is that it's apparently law (at least in IL) where tire shops won't put on tires without them if the car is equipped with the monitoring system. I was working with two different shops about getting new wheels and neither of them would mount my existing snow tires without TPMS. These were both national chains, so they might have more rules to follow, so you might have better luck if you have a local guy mount the tires.

In the end, I found a set of used OEM TPMS on ebay that I'm going to use. If they work, great. If not, then at least I should be able to get the tire shops to mount them.

 

[Philth]

You won't have any issues that I know of except for the annoying reminder on dash. I ran them that way in my old car, and had no issues, though on the Genny, I am going to get some as it annoyed me.

Another potential issue now is that it's apparently law (at least in IL) where tire shops won't put on tires without them if the car is equipped with the monitoring system. I was working with two different shops about getting new wheels and neither of them would mount my existing snow tires without TPMS. These were both national chains, so they might have more rules to follow, so you might have better luck if you have a local guy mount the tires.

In the end, I found a set of used OEM TPMS on ebay that I'm going to use. If they work, great. If not, then at least I should be able to get the tire shops to mount them.

(Sarcasm) Only in Illinois....

I cant stand this state.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

I do have a local guy to mount my tires. Me

 

[Zerkfitting]

I wanted to get a set of 17" wheels and a smaller tire (which is better for snow) but the Tire Guy (name of shop) said there are very few 17" wheels that fit the brakes on the 4.6. I ended up getting a set of 18" wheels and snow tires.

I got Dunlop Graspic DS-3 for this season (I wanted to try Continental snow tires (the tread pattern looks interesting but they don't offer an 18" tire). I've had experience with Dunlop Wintersport M2 and M3 snow tires over the last 10 years and Blizzaks before that. I think the Dunlops are a better handling snow tire then the Blizzaks (but they have probably improved over the years).

In the Minneapolis area the roads are typically plowed quickly during and after snow storms so I don't have to deal with a lot of snow except some side roads and driveways. If there is more than 4" I just don't go out since the Genesis and my last car have low clearance. Black ice is just as much a problem as snow.