Got the Genesis Blues and Don't Like it?

[HEY GURL]

A Chevy Vega would feel better than that rental

That is hilarious!

 

[nfetterly]

They replaced my sensors in the front bumper last week - they gave me a 2014 Genesis for a loaner, with 250 miles on it. It was clean - and the brown was dark dark dark. I thought it was black at first - nice color and CLEAN.

 

[Mark_888]

Otoh, in 2012 - 54% of Yaris sold went to fleet.

Compare that w/ 13% for the Accent and 10% for the Rio and both outsold the Yaris w/ Hyundai outselling the Yaris by a 2:1 margin (and by retail sales - closer to a 4:1 margin).

That's hardly talking out of both sides.

You forgot to mention how many Genesis sedans have been sold as rentals. Hertz alone has over 250 Genesis sedans for sale right now, Enterprise rental has over 40 for sale, and I know there more rentals for sale in other channels. The bottom line is that a lot of Genesis sedans have been to rental car companies and/or fleet sales.

That doesn't make the Genesis a bad car. Many of the best cars in their class have been sold as rental/fleet sales. Whether or not a car is sold to rental companies simply has nothing to do with whether a car is decent or not.

Comparing an 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate, which acecert paid about $55K for, with a Yaris with MSRP of about $14K (I am sure the rental car company paid south of $12 for the car) is a little ridiculous, and I don't think acecert meant to seriously compare the cars the way you are apparently doing.

 

[CLASSYRSPEC]

I wouldn't wash it. Don't need to stand out like a fire engine. Yaris drivers are the worst. So slow. Never know where they are going, and downright scared to drive.

 

[Motegi]

I wouldn't wash it. Don't need to stand out like a fire engine. Yaris drivers are the worst. So slow. Never know where they are going, and downright scared to drive.

Agreed. Was forced out of my lane today by an inattentive Yaris driver doing a slow lane change without looking. They ended up pulling into the same movie theater parking lot that my wife and I were headed to. Unbelievably 4 morbidly obese adults and a child got out of the Yaris. Must be fairly roomy inside.

 

[Motegi]

They replaced my sensors in the front bumper last week - they gave me a 2014 Genesis for a loaner, with 250 miles on it. It was clean - and the brown was dark dark dark. I thought it was black at first - nice color and CLEAN.

Lucky. We need to find a dealer with Genesis service loaners...

 

[YEH]

You forgot to mention how many Genesis sedans have been sold as rentals. Hertz alone has over 250 Genesis sedans for sale right now, Enterprise rental has over 40 for sale, and I know there more rentals for sale in other channels. The bottom line is that a lot of Genesis sedans have been to rental car companies and/or fleet sales.

That doesn't make the Genesis a bad car. Many of the best cars in their class have been sold as rental/fleet sales. Whether or not a car is sold to rental companies simply has nothing to do with whether a car is decent or not.

Comparing an 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate, which acecert paid about $55K for, with a Yaris with MSRP of about $14K (I am sure the rental car company paid south of $12 for the car) is a little ridiculous, and I don't think acecert meant to seriously compare the cars the way you are apparently doing.

Again - Hyundai did that on purpose in order to get more driver to test drive the Genesis sedan (did not do it w/ the Equus, however).

But what does that have to do w/ the near 55% fleet rate of the Yaris?

Do you think Toyota needs to get drivers to test drive their vehicles?

In contrast the Accent and Rio have much, much lower fleet rate percentages (and if anything, H/K still need more prospective buyers to test drive their vehicles to banish pre-existing and outdated perceptions).

So there you go again - bringing up something that has little to do w/ the point at hand.

 

[Mark_888]

Again - Hyundai did that on purpose in order to get more driver to test drive the Genesis sedan (did not do it w/ the Equus, however).

But what does that have to do w/ the near 55% fleet rate of the Yaris?

Do you think Toyota needs to get drivers to test drive their vehicles?

In contrast the Accent and Rio have much, much lower fleet rate percentages (and if anything, H/K still need more prospective buyers to test drive their vehicles to banish pre-existing and outdated perceptions).

So there you go again - bringing up something that has little to do w/ the point at hand.

Since you have repeatedly said that you have no connection (direct or indirect) to Hyundai, can you cite a published source where you got the information about "Hyundai did that on purpose in order to get more driver to test drive the Genesis sedan"? If you know someone who is connected to Hyundai, then you do have a indirect connection and should mention that.

The Genesis rentals have all been Base Trim models which are a little over 1/2 the MSRP of the Equus, so you reference to Equus rentals seems to be a non sequitur . But the whole idea that Hyundai decided to make the Genesis a rental car (apparently without any input from Hertz or Enterprise who paid for them) seems a bit off base. Also, if they wanted people to test drive a Genesis, I don't think they would prefer people to drive a Base Trim model.

I agree with one thing--this whole discussion about the Yaris in comparison to the Genesis "has little to do w/ the point at hand." In fact, it is nothing but a cheap shot at Toyota, below the belt.