Does the V6 Genesis push you into your seat?

[Ernie3647]

My wife has the 2007 G35S and I will confirm that the throttle is that sensitive, and it's so sensitive, that I dislike driving it. I love the looks of her G35S, the asymmetric tires, but the engine/transmission set up is downright uncomfortable for this middle aged man.

My wife likes it, so that's all that matters.

Agreed the throttle response is extremely fast. So fast that that Infiniti actually offered an ECU modification for those who objected to it. I got used to it and like it. I like driving both cars for different reasons.

 

[parpi]

Well here are 5 runs 0 to 60 on the 3.8 and well the results are a bit disappointing, there seems to some hesitation at the very beginning

0-60 mph Test, 2015 Hyundai Genesis on Everyman D…: http://youtu.be/XH67lNCuRAo

 

[MrWesson]

Not to bash the Genesis or anything but..

IMO it has plenty of power.

The market says otherwise.. A 2013 ford mustang V6 will beat a Genesis 4.6 to 60mph and in the 1/4 mile.

Apples to Oranges comparison I know but don't lose track of the point here. Luxury cars require a positive check mark in every category...

IMO much better cars to buy out there if you're just looking for speed/performance.

V6 vs V8 is half of the content on this forum.. Should be able to figure out which to buy or simply go drive one.

 

[LouKango]

If hyundai wanted to make genesis V6 do 0-60 under 6 seconds with 311HP... they could've but they didnt. This is a big heavy luxury car. Smooth acceleration is what they went after and I'm happy with that. That is why our V6s are doing 6-7 seconds. I had nissan altima 3.5 V6 that did 5.9 sec to 60mph but mpg figures on that car was slightly worse than genesis 3.8 which weighs 500-600lbs more. My v6 genesis feels faster on highway acceleration. Simply put our cars are tuned for smooth riding... good highway acceleration. Not record breaking 0-60mph time. With that being said... hyundais 6.3sec claim is a stretch.

Sorry for my bad english. It's my second language

 

[parpi]

My point is the it is about 1 second off the official time published on hyundai's website. I don't like being fed false information...

 

[Ernie3647]

If hyundai wanted to make genesis V6 do 0-60 under 6 seconds with 311HP... they could've but they didnt. This is a big heavy luxury car. Smooth acceleration is what they went after and I'm happy with that. That is why our V6s are doing 6-7 seconds. I had nissan altima 3.5 V6 that did 5.9 sec to 60mph but mpg figures on that car was slightly worse than genesis 3.8 which weighs 500-600lbs more. My v6 genesis feels faster on highway acceleration. Simply put our cars are tuned for smooth riding... good highway acceleration. Not record breaking 0-60mph time. With that being said... hyundais 6.3sec claim is a stretch.

I agree.
If 0 to 60 is your primary concern or one of…..then you’re looking at the wrong car that was not its market target. It is foremost a luxury car. I’ve said that enough times that I was pretty sure the message was out. If a hard core sport sedan is your choice you should be looking elsewhere or maybe when and if the Rspec version comes out you can start arguing 0 to 60 times. I knew what I was buying and am very satisfied with it. It is a well appointed, well natured silent car. Hats off to Hyundai for engineering such clean rebuild with what I consider to be a minimum of problems especially considering all the new technology incorporated. Let’s face it technology reliability hasn’t been its strong suit in the past. In any normal driving situation I’ve never been at need for more power.

 

[jimb100]

My point is the it is about 1 second off the official time published on hyundai's website. I don't like being fed false information...

Not necessarily false information. Different track, different day, 100lb driver, 1 gal of gas in the tank, traction control settings, etc..

They also MAY have messed with the tune and firmed up the shifts, raised the shift points, etc. IF they did that its a little shady.

For comparison, my wife's SL 500 weighed 4200 pounds had about 300hp, and went 0-60 in 6.1-6.5 seconds, measured by numerous road tests.

No reason a Genesis shouldn't produce similar times under similar conditions. 7+ seconds is slow and I'd like to see more independent tests conducted. There are reasons why it could be that slow but we need to see more test results.

I drove a couple of 3.8s and then bought a 5.0, but that's just me.

 

[Penguin]

The 2015 Genesis 3.8 AWD that my wife and I test drove was pretty underwhelming in the power department. The 8 speed transmission does what it can to keep the V6 in it's power band but it still felt merely adequate.

Probably doesn't help that we had literally only 30 minutes prior to that test driven a Chevrolet SS with a 6.2L LS3 that also weighs about 300lbs less. That car was extremely entertaining to drive.

 

[quanva]

I find the power more than enough, and my last vehicle was a2008 Vw Touareg V8..the car feels about as fast as the truck and that knocked out 0-60 in 6.4s

 

[dreamerak]

CAR&DRIVER 2015 Genesis V6 RWD 0-60 5.9, Q-mile 14.4 @ 100 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/genesis


V8 0-60 5.0 Q-mile 13.6 @ 106 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-hyundai-genesis-50-test-review

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[jimb100]

CAR&DRIVER 2015 Genesis V6 RWD 0-60 5.9, Q-mile 14.4 @ 100 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/genesis


V8 0-60 5.0 Q-mile 13.6 @ 106 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-hyundai-genesis-50-test-review

Car and Driver usually beat real world times by a few tenths. Whether its a super sticky track or they get specially "tuned" cars for testing, they beat everyone else by a little.

 

[dreamerak]

Car and Driver usually beat real world times by a few tenths. Whether its a super sticky track or they get specially "tuned" cars for testing, they beat everyone else by a little.

I've seen several instances were they don't get better times. An example would be R&T C7 Corvette times, they were better than C&D. As far as ringer cars, you think if Manufacturers were doing that, only C&D would get them?...

 

[jimb100]

I've seen several instances were they don't get better times. An example would be R&T C7 Corvette times, they were better than C&D. As far as ringer cars, you think if Manufacturers were doing that, only C&D would get them?...

Yes, that's exactly what I think, in part.

You probably don't remember GTO vs Ferrari GTO.

But as I already mentioned, different tracks, different drivers, different weights, etc.

If you don't think there are shenanigans going on, you're naïve.

It wasn't that long ago there were multiple scandals over fake acceleration times.

 

[dreamerak]

Yes, that's exactly what I think, in part.

You probably don't remember GTO vs Ferrari GTO.

But as I already mentioned, different tracks, different drivers, different weights, etc.

If you don't think there are shenanigans going on, you're naïve.

It wasn't that long ago there were multiple scandals over fake acceleration times.

Just to be clear, you think only C&D is getting ringer cars?

 

[italiabrain]

I have to agree if that's what Jim is saying that's a bit crazy.

As far as the video with lackluster 0-60 goes it's very easy to imagine dropping a full second from the time just in terms of legitimate driving and measuring changes. Start with significant brake torque and allow a foot of roll out and it seems you could drop a full second.

 

[dreamerak]

I have to agree if that's what Jim is saying that's a bit crazy.

As far as the video with lackluster 0-60 goes it's very easy to imagine dropping a full second from the time just in terms of legitimate driving and measuring changes. Start with significant brake torque and allow a foot of roll out and it seems you could drop a full second.

I agree. I noticed that the Genesis roll out was in the Phoenix area, about mid April. Having trained and received my Private Pilot license there, I can tell you that density altitude even in relatively mild April weather can have a significant negative impact on acceleration times. I'm betting some of the slower times recorded in the first drives were affected by DA. When full tests were done later in better air near sea level with superior driving techniques , faster times are to be expected.

 

[jimb100]

Just to be clear, you think only C&D is getting ringer cars?

I've never said that.

What I've said I'll repeat. I thought I'd made it clear but for the record.

Some magazines will post numbers just to create controversy and sell magazines. Usually that means posting lower numbers to get the fanboys excited.

Certain venues, with certain drivers, under certain conditions will produce lower numbers than other venues, drivers, conditions. All the magazines don't test in the same place on the same day, etc. I subscribe to all the mags and in general, my impression is the C&D numbers are usually a couple of tenths lower than Automobile, R&T and Motor Trend. Also, C&D have been known in the past to be low.

Some manufacturers will supply handpicked samples that may or may not be massaged. They may be supplied to magazines that usually offer favorable results in testing and can be counted on to not look to closely at the sample they receive.

Honestly, I thought all this was common knowledge but, based on your impression I was wrong.

 

[Nikgen]

I've never said that.

Unfortunately, your response in post #33 suggested you were saying exactly that - you must have misread the question you were answering?

 

[dreamerak]

Unfortunately, your response in post #33 suggested you were saying exactly that - you must have misread the question you were answering?

I'ts like you were reading my mind Nikgen........LOL

 

[jimb100]

Unfortunately, your response in post #33 suggested you were saying exactly that - you must have misread the question you were answering?

Reading comprehension. I did not say that ONLY C&D got ringers. Depending on the manufacturer and the agenda any of the magazines can get a car that has been massaged with a tune, a factory blueprinted engine, etc.

What do you mean by a "ringer?" Upped displacement? Different cam?

How are you defining a ringer?

But back to your post. If Car & Driver is quoting a 5.9 0-60 for the 3.8 they are the only ones I've seen with a sub 6 second time. Even Hyundai doesn't suggest under 6 and the video shows over 7 seconds.

How do you think C&D is beating everyone else? Just lucky?