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Tire Pressure

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Just got my winters on and noticed that the dealership had them set to 30 PSI which I find too low. I pumped them up to 40 PSI. Just curious what others use...
 
Just got my winters on and noticed that the dealership had them set to 30 PSI which I find too low. I pumped them up to 40 PSI. Just curious what others use...

I would go with the factory recommended pressures for the OEM tires - 33psi on my car. 40psi sounds way too high, but you may want to set them at 35psi in anticipation of them dropping a little once the cold weather arrives.
 
Just got my winters on and noticed that the dealership had them set to 30 PSI which I find too low. I pumped them up to 40 PSI. Just curious what others use...

The 5.0 is 35 psi all around. You do know recommended tire inflation is on the drivers side door frame right? ;)
 
I don't run winters on my Genesis, but I run them on my Outback. My outback calls for 30 psi, but it is normal to run around 4-5 more psi with winter tires vs summer or all season tires. I run my winter tires at 35. If I ran the Genesis with winter tires I would run them at 40 psi personally since I usually run my summer tires at 37 since the car handles much better at 37 vs. the factory spec of 33.

From TireRack:

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=168


Several vehicle manufacturer's owner's manuals recommend operating winter tires several psi (typically 3-5) higher than their recommended pressures for summer and all-season tires. While none of them actually provide the reason why, there are several scenarios that would support the practice.

First and foremost is that winter tires feature more aggressive tread designs, softer tread compounds and are often molded with deeper beginning tread depths than summer or all-season tires. While the combination of these design elements allows winter tires to remain more pliable in sub-freezing temperatures to provide more traction in snow and on ice, it often results in tires that have somewhat reduced responsiveness to driver input. The 3-5 psi higher recommended inflation pressures increase tire stability and help offset the reduction in responsiveness.

Additionally ambient air temperatures in winter typically range 40- to 50-degrees Fahrenheit colder than typical summer temperatures for the same location. The lower ambient temperatures allow tires to be more efficient at radiating heat and the tires will run cooler, building up less hot tire pressure. In this case, the 3-5 psi higher recommended inflation pressure increase helps offset the reduced hot tire pressures resulting from less heat buildup.

And finally, all tire pressures are intended to be measured cold, which means when the tires are at the same temperature as the air outside. Unfortunately, unless you park your vehicle outside or in an unheated, detached garage, and measure its tire pressures first thing on dark, cold mornings, the influence of attached garages or higher ambient air temperatures later in the day often means that drivers are actually measuring tires that are not completely cold. In this case the 3-5 psi higher recommended inflation pressure increase helps offset the reduced tire pressures associated with the conditions in which the tire pressures are typically measured.
 
I don't run winters on my Genesis, but I run them on my Outback. My outback calls for 30 psi, but it is normal to run around 4-5 more psi with winter tires vs summer or all season tires. I run my winter tires at 35. If I ran the Genesis with winter tires I would run them at 40 psi personally since I usually run my summer tires at 37 since the car handles much better at 37 vs. the factory spec of 33.

From TireRack:

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=168



Well now you opened a can of worms.:rolleyes: Honestly I live in severe winter conditions. My best friend owns a tire shop and I have never heard of putting in 5 psi more because it's winter and cold. Only way this rings true is if you measure them in your heated garage and then go out in -25 temps.

If I were to follow this recommendation I would use 40 psi but guess what, it still gets over 70F + this time of year so basically I am running around over inflated until it gets very cold outside. Handling has more to do with what winter tire you put on and believe me there is a difference in handling as the price and speed ratings increase. I put on the only tire that fits the 5.0 Genesis which is the LM32 and I must say my oh my it handles very well however the price is way way up there. I think it was $1700 installed for all 4.

Only way to really get it right is to adjust as then winter months progress which is a recommended once a month and do this outside in the morning.

Here is what the official Canadian site recommends. http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehicl...ign=Twitter-eng&WT.mc_id=g5q2x&WT.mc_id=0g81f
 
If I were to follow this recommendation I would use 40 psi but guess what, it still gets over 70F + this time of year so basically I am running around over inflated until it gets very cold outside.

Max PSI is 50. Recommended is 35. 40 psi may be "over inflated" for you but it certainly is well within the specs for the tires.
 
Max PSI is 50. Recommended is 35. 40 psi may be "over inflated" for you but it certainly is well within the specs for the tires.

When I say overinflated this is the recommended inflation for the car which is 35 psi. Running above or below this pressure will affect tire wear and handling. Put it this way. Lets say the Jaguar sports sedan has the same tires but weighs much less. The recommended tire pressure for that application will not be the same as our Genesis. The 50 psi max is only what the tire will endure for extended running however it has nothing to do with application. If you run 50 psi on the Genesis the tire will be like a balloon so to say and wear in the prematurely in the centre only.

It really amazes me throughout my internet travels to see how little people understand what tire pressure is really all about. I have seen several instances where people fill up to the max tire pressure on the tire and think this is what needs to be done. Good grief, have the dealership take care of it if this is how you think it should be done. This is not directed at you by the way. ;)
 
If you are driving on a snowy/icy road, you probably don't want to exceed the recommended tire pressure (the one in door jamb), even if you have snow tires on. The reasons for this are obvious.

On dry pavement, a little over-inflation is OK, so long as you don't over do it. I usually drive at about 1.5-2 PSI over recommended pressure.
 
I live and drive my 2013 Genesis 3.8L sedan with the original Michelin Energy Saver A/S 235/50/18's in central florida. I keep the tires consistently at 37.5 psi. I like the ride a little on the stiff side. I don't make many highway only trips but a recent one with minimal air conditioning necessary I averaged between 30-31 mpg doing 65-75mph.
 
What I haven't seen mentioned above is the effects of over-inflation of your tires. The Car Manufacturer recommends the published tire-pressures for a reason. The number is based upon the type and size of the OEM tire and the weight of the vehicle (amongst many other factors). The inflation pressure chosen will inflate the tire to a level that is a compromise of ride/handling/fuel-economy/safety, but if chosen correctly, it will also keep the profile of the tire at its optimum for tread contact with the road and sidewall stiffness.

When you increase the tire pressure it will change the tire profile and decrease the tread contact patch as well as stiffening the sidewall. This may appear to improve initial turn-in to a corner, but the actual grip level is reduced. A change of 1 or 2 psi won't make much difference, but 5-7psi would definitely be noticable.
 
What I haven't seen mentioned above is the effects of over-inflation of your tires. The Car Manufacturer recommends the published tire-pressures for a reason. The number is based upon the type and size of the OEM tire and the weight of the vehicle (amongst many other factors). The inflation pressure chosen will inflate the tire to a level that is a compromise of ride/handling/fuel-economy/safety, but if chosen correctly, it will also keep the profile of the tire at its optimum for tread contact with the road and sidewall stiffness.

When you increase the tire pressure it will change the tire profile and decrease the tread contact patch as well as stiffening the sidewall. This may appear to improve initial turn-in to a corner, but the actual grip level is reduced. A change of 1 or 2 psi won't make much difference, but 5-7psi would definitely be noticable.

This discussion reminds me of the oil change discussions.

Car manufacturers have armies of engineers testing every aspect before coming up with recommendations that the company supports with its warranties. The tire manufacturers have their own army of engineers that collaborate in the determination. Sorry CanukV6, this isn't aimed at you, I agree with your post.

But then a guy sitting in his living room says, "no, I think more pressure (or less) feels right to me."

Why would you think you know better than all the engineers who have done the actual testing?
 
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Why would you think you know better than all the engineers who have done the actual testing?

Because I prefer a stiffer ride?

They also recommend premium fuel but it is okay to not use premium fuel.

It is a recommendation. It is not a requirement and I prefer the ride at 40 PSI compared with 30 PSI.
 
Because I prefer a stiffer ride?

They also recommend premium fuel but it is okay to not use premium fuel.

It is a recommendation. It is not a requirement and I prefer the ride at 40 PSI compared with 30 PSI.

I agree, its your choice. I was just pointing out that a higher pressure also equals less contact patch between tire and road, which adversely affects handling and braking.
 
I also run at 40 but not because I intentionally chose that. When my car was delivered the pressure was at 40. I deflated them to 35 and actually didn't like the ride and handling as much. I went back to 40 and that is where they will stay. Never thought I'd notice the difference but I did.
 
If you are involved in an accident which there is a tire failure, the investigation will identify that the cause was likely caused by the failure of the tire due to overinflation as the three undamaged tires were overinflated as well. There is several reasons for proper tire pressure, i.e. fuel economy, handling, braking and ride. Your changes may cause the blame of a failure to be directed to you the owner. Research the Saudi tire failure problem with the Genesis and you maybe inclined to follow the manufactures suggested specs.
Just my opinion.
 
I also run at 40 but not because I intentionally chose that. When my car was delivered the pressure was at 40. I deflated them to 35 and actually didn't like the ride and handling as much. I went back to 40 and that is where they will stay. Never thought I'd notice the difference but I did.

Your car was delivered with over inflated tires because that is how they are shipped over on the boat. They (dealers) are suppose to deflate the tires to the correct settings...
 
Because I prefer a stiffer ride?

They also recommend premium fuel but it is okay to not use premium fuel.

It is a recommendation. It is not a requirement and I prefer the ride at 40 PSI compared with 30 PSI.

Of course you have a choice, its your car. People often choose to do the wrong thing.

Tire pressure is a safety issue.
 
Your car was delivered with over inflated tires because that is how they are shipped over on the boat. They (dealers) are suppose to deflate the tires to the correct settings...

Well I'm kind of glad they didn't as I like 40 psi. I have 6500 miles on it and tire wear is even across the tire and going into winter I am even less concerned with being 5 psi over (hot reading).
 
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