Do you suppose the Genesis designers liked the Audi A7?

[amartz]

Who said I won't be driving a G80? I likely will be as I think the G80 will address any shortcomings I have with my G2. However, if I don't go that route, I definitely won't be lurking those forums just to typically add negative comments about those cars, unlike some...

Other than stating they are ugly, I'm usually responding to the notion that the G1 is not worthy, rather than slamming the G2. There's a difference. When somebody says I'm just "settling" for the G1 because it's what I own, I'm going to point out they've got it backwards. I could trade mine in on a G2, if I wanted one. I certainly wouldn't be so arrogant about how much better it was than a G1. Primarily because it isn't all that. Some things better, sure. Some things not better, definitely. For the price jump with the G2, not worth it in my book.

 

[Nikgen]

Other than stating they are ugly, I'm usually responding to the notion that the G1 is not worthy, rather than slamming the G2. There's a difference. When somebody says I'm just "settling" for the G1 because it's what I own, I'm going to point out they've got it backwards. I could trade mine in on a G2, if I wanted one. I certainly wouldn't be so arrogant about how much better it was than a G1. Primarily because it isn't all that. Some things better, sure. Some things not better, definitely. For the price jump with the G2, not worth it in my book.

Who said you were just settling for your G1? If your G1 is working for you, then that's all that matters - it would make little sense to trade it in for a G2 that you obviously don't like. But you're not going to find much support for the G1 being better in any way in the G2 forum.

Unless you live under a rock, you already know that the consensus in the automotive world is that the G2 is considered a significant step forward from the G1 for Hyundai - that doesn't make the G1 a bad car, just like the G80 won't make the G2 a bad car, even though I expect it to be a nice improvement.

 

[srobak]

To actually answer the question and confirm what an earlier poster mentioned - YES...

Peter Schreyer is one of the designers at Hyundai and is directly responsible for some of the design influence on the G2 and upcoming models. He was responsible for the design modern language used on the A3, A4 and A6 just to name a few.

Additionally - they got Albert Biermann and Chris Chapmann from BMW - which explains a lot of the interior design queues on the G2 and both interior and exterior influences on the upcoming G90. You will notice strong similarities and influences from the recent 5, 7, M and X series - which they were instrumental on during their time there.

 

[amartz]

Who said you were just settling for your G1? If your G1 is working for you, then that's all that matters - it would make little sense to trade it in for a G2 that you obviously don't like. But you're not going to find much support for the G1 being better in any way in the G2 forum.

Unless you live under a rock, you already know that the consensus in the automotive world is that the G2 is considered a significant step forward from the G1 for Hyundai - that doesn't make the G1 a bad car, just like the G80 won't make the G2 a bad car, even though I expect it to be a nice improvement.

Who said?... It's been said and strongly implied numerous times that the only reason I prefer the G1 is because I own a G1, and if I were fortunate enough to actually own a G2, then I'd be just as strongly supportive of the G2. I have listed before numerous ways the G1 is better than the G2, and some of the corners cut on the G2 to keep the ever growing price down. I'm certainly not saying the G2 is a bad car, far from it. There are definitely some things it has I wish were on my G1. If I could cherry-pick G2 features added to a G1, that would be about ideal in my book. As far as correspondent consensus, meh, it's what they get paid to say.

 

[Nikgen]

As far as correspondent consensus, meh, it's what they get paid to say.

And many new cars get panned by the automotive press - not the case with the G2, and for good reason, but stay in denial on their broad consensus if it works for you. As I said, the improvements in the G2 do not make a perfectly good G1 a bad car that needs to be ditched.

 

[ahearn]

The A7 is a 4-door coupe with hatchback and flowing roof line. I wish it were so but I see no similarity at all to the Genesis. The profile of the Genesis is similar to many other sedans these days, but definitely not the 4-door coupes like the A7, Mercedes CLS550, Porsche Panamera, and BMW 6 Gran Coupe.

 

[Genentec]

bottom line, you can now actually buy beautiful european styling that's actually reliable.

wow just think, no need to worry about engine seals and gaskets failing in the first 12 months, or even the first 48 months.

no need to worry about lame basic electronic components failing within the first 12 months of ownership, or even the first 48 months of ownership.

wow a company that will actually issue true recall once it is clear that a problem is proven a common occurrence....something bmw will never do.

 

[LandoAWD]

However, if I don't go that route, I definitely won't be lurking those forums just to typically add negative comments about those cars, unlike some...

Actually, I provide other help as I have a wide berth of knowledge that exists outside of consumer reports, my own mind, and model specific ego stroking, but you've become a pet project due to your salty nature.

I will read my "new threads" and comment as I see fit. I'll even help you with technical advice, should you ever care to extend your mod list past a build date, or need help choosing anything beyond a base model.

 

[Nikgen]

Actually, I provide other help as I have a wide berth of knowledge that exists outside of consumer reports, my own mind, and model specific ego stroking, but you've become a pet project due to your salty nature.

I will read my "new threads" and comment as I see fit. I'll even help you with technical advice, should you ever care to extend your mod list past a build date, or need help choosing anything beyond a base model.

No one said you could not comment as you see fit - it's a public forum. I just find it amusing that there are some G1 owners that seem so insecure in their older model that they now seem driven to come to the G2 forum to talk down the new model. You won't find me in your G1 forum as the car is irrelevant to me and posting about the G2 there would be of little use to anyone.

I did not care to extend my mod list past the addition of the OEM fog lights. I really have no interest in modding - hence why I really don't participate in the modding sub-forums. And if you bothered to read, you'd see that my current car is not a base model (not that it really matters) - so your last comment makes no sense... as is the case with your "pet project" comment. This is all just an amusing distraction for me 99% of the time, though I have gotten useful info from other G2 owners to help with issues I have had with mine as well as the fog light add-on - so I put my, money where my mouth is and support the forum as well (helps provide a place for you to share your "advice"). I don't actually take any of this stuff with complete strangers in an internet forum seriously...

 

[LandoAWD]

No one said you could not comment as you see fit - it's a public forum. I just find it amusing that here are some G1 owners that are so insecure in their older model that they now seem driven to come to the G2 forum to talk down the new model.

There goes your mistake again. I don't have to dislike my car to dislike yours, or any other Fusion clone.

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[Huddleston]

I always find it interesting that people claim Hyundai copies design elements from other cars. In todays market its almost impossible to design something total original - something will always look like something else to a certain degree. What these people forget or don't know is the personal nature of a car designers work and how that can carryover from company to company if they happen to move. Certain design elements, cues, and styling characteristics are what seems to follow a designer as they change manufacturers. It much less a function of the brand and much more about the name of the person designing the car. Obviously some brands have elements that are always present in the appearance of the car but the individual design element if often overlooked.

 

[Nikgen]

There goes your mistake again. I don't have to dislike my car to dislike yours, or any other Fusion clone.

Yawn... keep posting in the G2 forum... just reinforces my point.

 

[LandoAWD]

I always find it interesting that people claim Hyundai copies design elements from other cars. In todays market its almost impossible to design something total original - something will always look like something else to a certain degree. What these people forget or don't know is the personal nature of a car designers work and how that can carryover from company to company if they happen to move. Certain design elements, cues, and styling characteristics are what seems to follow a designer as they change manufacturers. It much less a function of the brand and much more about the name of the person designing the car. Obviously some brands have elements that are always present in the appearance of the car but the individual design element if often overlooked.

I don't think anyone can deny that. The Merc cues on the G1 are noted on the front end.

Yawn... keep posting in the G2 forum... just reinforces my point.

Would that be the one about not knowing how post reply notifications work, how to use the "new Posts" feature, general automotive knowledge not being so general, or how not owning a Ford Fusion precludes me from being able to comment? You have so many good points, I want to make sure I key in on the important ones!

 

[Nikgen]

Would that be the one about not knowing how post reply notifications work, how to use the "new Posts" feature, general automotive knowledge not being so general, or how not owning a Ford Fusion precludes me from being able to comment? You have so many good points, I want to make sure I key in on the important ones!

Wow - such useful information that is relevant to the G2. Thanks so much for making this a better place for us! Without your incessant blathering about the G2 looking Ford Fusion, we would have no idea that you have eyesight issues. I'm sorry that I can not help you with that, but go ahead and respond one more time as you seem to like to have the last word - I can help you with that...

 

[LandoAWD]

Wow - such useful information that is relevant to the G2. Thanks so much for making this a better place for us! Without your incessant blathering about the G2 looking Ford Fusion, we would have no idea that you have eyesight issues. I'm sorry that I can not help you with that, but go ahead and respond one more time as you seem to like to have the last word - I can help you with that...

My opinion is as relevant as yours on this topic regarding the G2. True story!

One day, we can hope, life on the Internet and using a dated technology (forums) will click for you. Until then, don't forget your Geritol!

 

[Huddleston]

keep it up and neither of you is invited to my birthday party this year.

 

[LandoAWD]

Sorry, dad.

Like I needed another blow to my ego after being forced to stick with this Gen1...

 

[amartz]

I just find it amusing that there are some G1 owners that seem so insecure in their older model that they now seem driven to come to the G2 forum to talk down the new model.

I'm going to assume that was directed largely at me. As I've said repeatedly, I'm not trolling just for opportunities to slam the new model. I am responding to snide and arrogant comments about the G1 model, which seems for some to be a prerequisite to show how good the G2 is. I really do respect the opinions of those who have owned both models. Since this is way beyond the point of any return, I'll just be a largely passive bystander. All Hail the G2. At least until the G3.

 

[srobak]

Can you guys cut it out? Seriously. All this penis waving is not impressing anyone and is only scrolling what would have been a nice discussion to have.

 

[srobak]

The A7 is a 4-door coupe with hatchback and flowing roof line. I wish it were so but I see no similarity at all to the Genesis. The profile of the Genesis is similar to many other sedans these days, but definitely not the 4-door coupes like the A7, Mercedes CLS550, Porsche Panamera, and BMW 6 Gran Coupe.

See - other than the sloped tail I actually see a LOT of similarity in the exterior design between the A7 and the G2. I even see similarity to the BMW 6 GC - particularly the side profile with the long hood deck and the short but still defined trunk deck.