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Hyundai Denies Warranty Claim TWICE!

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Nov. 28 2014, I pick up my brand new Ibiza Blue 3.8 R-Spec Coupe! Five days later I'm back at the dealer with a clunking noise coming from the rear end. The tech and I go for a drive and I show him the noise it is making. After putting the car on the lift, the tech determines the noise is coming from the rear end possibly moving around on its mounts. So he proceeds to tighten the three differential mounting bolts and the noise goes away.

Everything is going great with the car until Tuesday morning, Sept. 15 2015. I am pulling out of Chick-Fil-A in first gear. I get on it to about 5k RPM, push the clutch in, shift to 2nd, let the clutch out and BANG! So I push the clutch in and let it out two more time to try and determine what had happened. From this I deduced that a mount must broken on the rear differential. Luckily this happened up the hill from work. I coast the car into work with the transmission in neutral. I call Hyundai and have it towed to the dealer where I bought the car and had the first repair done on the rear differential. I call the dealer and ask about a loaner vehicle. The service associate tells me that they don't have any loaners and that they get them from the Nissan dealer next door. Unfortunately, the Nissan dealer is out of loaners and Hyundai won't give me or pay for a loaner until it is determined if the repair is covered under warranty. She also informs me that they will try to get to my car that day to determine what the problem is.

Later that day I receive a call from the dealer. The service advisor proceeds to tell me that they have never seen what happened to my car before and that they are going to call for a Hyundai rep and engineer to come and look at my car. I asked her what the problem is and she tells me that the rear mounting bolt is broke and my yokes are bent! A couple days go by and I receive a call late afternoon (Sept. 17, 2015) from the dealer. The service advisor tells me that Hyundai has denied my claim under warranty, stating that there were no defects in workmanship or craftsmanship. Being stunned at the news, all I could do was laugh. I politely told the adviser that I would call her back.

The next morning (Sept. 18,2015) I go to the dealer ask to look at the car. While the service manager was getting my car on the lift I asked the service advisor to see the "broke" bolt and ask how much it would be out of pocket to fix the car. The total was over $4600! I asked for a number I could call to dispute the decision to deny my warranty claim. I was given a number to Hyundai Customer Connect. About that time, service manager came in and escorted me to look at my car. Upon my inspection, the service manager tried to explain to me that the bent yokes were from twisting force! He also suggested that I could call my insurance and have my adjuster come out and that maybe we could only change out only the parts that were damaged instead of replacing everything the dealer wanted to. At that time I took pictures of the damage, thanked the associates for their help and left. That afternoon I called Hyundai Customer Connect and spoke with a representative who assigned me a case number. I told her the story of what happened and that I was displeased with the outcome of the investigation. She told me that there wasn't much I could do other than contact the Alternative Dispute Resolution Division Counsel of the BBB. You can imagine my disappointment in how all of this has unfolded.

On Monday or Tuesday the next week I decided to call the customer connect number again in the hopes of speaking to another representative. I was luckily enough to get a different rep. and was informed that the previous rep had pushed my case number to the regional office for further review and that I should hear something by the end of the week. At that time I was allowed to add additional information to my case. I told him that the bolt looked like it was broke where the threads and the shank meet and that there was a gouge in sub frame directly above the rear diff where it looked like the bolts on the yokes contacted the sub frame after the rear mounting bolt failed. That Friday (Sept. 25, 2015) I received a call from a District Parts and Service Manager informing me that Hyundai had denied my claim again. So I asked her if she looked at the bolt, she said NO. I then asked her if she had read the notes from when I brought the car in a week after purchase. Again, she said NO. That's when it came to me that the dealer might be trying to cover their butt! So I told her that I would go back to the dealer that evening and get a picture of the bolt and a copy of the techs notes that did the original repair and email them to her on Monday.

On Monday (Sept. 28, 2015) I e-mail her all the pictures I have along with a revision of my position about the rear mounting bolt. The bolt didn't look broke, rather it looks like one of those automotive bolts that has more shank than threads. I suggested that the tech had over tightened the bolts causing the threads in the aluminum diff cover to fail. I also told her that I believed the service manger that she was dealing with also happened to be the same person that tightened the mounting bolts the first time I brought the car in. I didn't hear anything back that week. On the 5th or 6th of October I called and left a message asking if there had been any update since my email. As of today (Sept. 12, 2015) I have heard nothing. All the while I was left without a loaner and was forced to borrow a beat up, barely running truck from a neighbor to ferry my kids to school and get myself to work.

This has been the absolute worst experience I have ever had dealing with warranty work. I am at a loss as to what to do. I am considering having it towed to another dealer. After this experience, I don't know that I would buy a Hyundai again, or even suggest one to a friend.

All I want is my car to be fixed!

I rotated the drive line to take three different pictures of the yoke.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0uEAN5iNsxFYTZlR09CUjY2cGc
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0uEAN5iNsxFN2I3cGpuVjFpem8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0uEAN5iNsxFaTUxeXhKakF3RkU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0uEAN5iNsxFTnVHUVVISlF4Smc
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0uEAN5iNsxFOXBMeEk2T0VCQ28
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0uEAN5iNsxFM0l3cXJodU9MNjQ
 
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If you must know, I had a chicken biscuit with tater tots and a coffee.
 
UPDATE!!!!

I received a call from the new service manager on Tuesday. And guess what, yep you guessed it - denied again!!!! I mean come on. This time an actual Hyundai Engineer came to look at my car. The reason he gave for the failure is almost comical! He said " To much acceleration to often". I was like excuse me. That is the most lame excuse I have ever heard. So I called my district parts and service manager to ask for a copy of the engineers report. She told me no, that it was an internal document and that she would call and go over it with me when she got it.

So now I am really angry! Where do I go from here?
 
UPDATE!!!!

I received a call from the new service manager on Tuesday. And guess what, yep you guessed it - denied again!!!! I mean come on. This time an actual Hyundai Engineer came to look at my car. The reason he gave for the failure is almost comical! He said " To much acceleration to often". I was like excuse me. That is the most lame excuse I have ever heard. So I called my district parts and service manager to ask for a copy of the engineers report. She told me no, that it was an internal document and that she would call and go over it with me when she got it.

So now I am really angry! Where do I go from here?

If your car is stock with no modifications then the Hyundai engineer is full of BS. No manufacturer should engineer and build a car and then deny a warranty claim due to parts failing when the car has not been modified.
 
If your car is stock with no modifications then the Hyundai engineer is full of BS. No manufacturer should engineer and build a car and then deny a warranty claim due to parts failing when the car has not been modified.

No modifications. The engineer mentioned something about an OBD2 reader being attached to the car. I told the service manager, yeah there was one. It was a reader I used to run the torque app on my phone. Nothing was done to any of the cars systems, other than clear a low tire pressure code from when I got a nail in a tire. The engineer also said that there may have been other tires on it. I was like, the only time any tire was off was when I had the one with the nail changed because it was in the side wall.

All of what was said to the service manager sounds way to much like a cover up before the new generation comes out in 2017.
 
Where do you go from here? Either fix it or find a lawyer

I refuse to pay for the repairs. Doing so would assume that I am to blame for the part failure and damage. More than likely I will aquire a lawyer and go from there. In all honesty, with the trouble I've had with this, I don't think want the car anymore. My neighbor doesn't care, but I feel bad for having his truck this long .
 
It looks as if some members scoffed at your plight. I am watching closely, as I bought a pre-owned 2013 which thankfully, has had no issues. Having said that, Hyundai has a previous bad track record with reliability. In fact, they made trash just a decade ago or more. They have definitely pushed on and have come up in standards, but that also comes with fit & starts.

As for your case? You outlined your issue quite well (kudos!). This model is sold as a sports car...and should live up to its selling model. If you'll look it up, Hyundai had major issues with transmissions in just the past 5 years.

Get a lawyer!

Best Regards,

Dbx
 
I'm following as well. I'm curious about how this plays out...
 
Good news! I did get my car back last weekend. Basically, the engineer that looked at my car couldn't disprove my theory or prove theirs. So they decided to fix the car under warranty with the stipulation that if i brought it in again with the same problem that it wouldn't be fixed under warranty.
 
Good news! I did get my car back last weekend. Basically, the engineer that looked at my car couldn't disprove my theory or prove theirs. So they decided to fix the car under warranty with the stipulation that if i brought it in again with the same problem that it wouldn't be fixed under warranty.

Glad to hear it! Now let's hope you never need to bring it in again with the same problem...
 
Congrats man, sucks you had to go through all of that though.
 
Thanks for the congrats. It's been about a month since I was on here last. I have been giving myself time to get used to the car again. I know it sounds funny, but I didn't have it for almost 2 months. And from the get go I didn't think something was right, so I said that I would give it some time. Since then I have come to conclusion that the shifter never used to vibrate this bad above 4k rpm, the exhaust does sound different and it just doesn't feel as peppy as I remember. In regard to the peppy part, I know that we get used to the way a car runs so the newness wears off.

However, a series of events today has reaffirmed my suspicions. The car is most definitely not as peppy or fast as I remember and I had a friend send me a link from autoblog.com today about a recall that is starting next month, that vilified my ending hypothesis on the possible cause for the initial malfunction which cause the bolt failure. In addition, this article from autoblog.com may also be the reason I am receiving the unwanted feedback through the shifter.

Link to the article: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/13/hyundai-genesis-coupe-differential-recall/

So now, I am at a quandary. Is Hyundai going to give me grief if I take my car in for this recall? Because, the new differential was installed by a service tech. Did this service tech reinstall the new diff according to the specs of the recall, or was it done to the old specs? Are they going to try and blame the vibration on me ( beating ) on my car making me fight with them again about this problem coming to light because of the old damage or the new install?

All of these problems or worries have seriously diminished my delight in owning this car. Maybe I should have just stuck to my roots and went with the blue oval!!!! In the end though, it doesn't matter. I will still be stuck with this thing until my lease is up. I highly doubt that I will be able to yell "Lemon"!
 
I'd not speculate, and simply call the dealership. This has happened on a few BK2s now, and the tech's opinion(s) are trumped by data collected that led to the recall.
 
What state do you live in? If MN or WI, my law firm can help you out on this issue. The sheer number of days out of service will qualify you under the lemon law for a cash settlement or a repurchase at no cost to you as the manufacturer pays atty fees. We work in MN and WI. Thanks!
 
Thanks for the congrats. It's been about a month since I was on here last. I have been giving myself time to get used to the car again. I know it sounds funny, but I didn't have it for almost 2 months. And from the get go I didn't think something was right, so I said that I would give it some time. Since then I have come to conclusion that the shifter never used to vibrate this bad above 4k rpm, the exhaust does sound different and it just doesn't feel as peppy as I remember. In regard to the peppy part, I know that we get used to the way a car runs so the newness wears off.


The following from NHTSA may be of interest to you:

NHTSA Campaign ID Number : 15V756
Manufacturer : Hyundai Motor America
Make / Model Years : HYUNDAI / 2013-2015
Subject : Rear Suspension Bolts may be Loose
 
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