Dealer maintenance schedule question

[dakwonhee]

Within a month, I will have 24,000 km service in the dealer shop..
To follow their maintenance schedule, I have to spend more than $300 for this...

In their chart, even they will do "4 Wheel alignment" every year....Is it make a sense?
In owner's manual (Canadian version), it doesn't mention it....

I have no idea...should I spend money to keep the warranty?

I am a Korean-Canadian... I never been in Hyundai Service for the maintenance in South Korea....

Please give me your idea!

Cheers!

 

[xsolara]

I would just follow what is required in the Hyundai owners manual... The charges are overkill and as far as I know this is highway robbery....
I have owned several Hyundai models and if you follow the manuals requirment you will find it's one of the cheapest cars to maintain ..

 

[Mark_888]

The purpose of operating an automobile dealership is to make as much money as possible. Hyundai dealers in the USA and Canada are not owned by Hyundai, they are independent businesses. Dealers can (and often do) try to get you to have service performed that is not required by your Hyundai maintenance schedule as documented in the owner's manual.

The general recommendation is to ignore xx,xxx km service packages, and only request those things that must be done according to the owner's manual. I am not sure about the 24K km interval for Canada, but that probably only includes an oil change. Maybe tire rotations if they have never been done before. Ignore all the "inspection" stuff in the owner's manual.

If the cabin air filter or engine air filter needs to be changed according to the schedule, you can purchase the part from the parts department and do it yourself. There are videos on YouTube that show how to do it. If you not sure about doing these, ask a friend for help.

 

[CanukV6]

To answer your question regarding the 4-Wheel Alignment, I would say this is optional and not a requirement to keep your warranty. That said, I would recommend an annual Alignment in the late Spring, since driving on our winter ravaged roads can easily change the factory alignment. If your wheels are not correctly aligned, then you may get abnormal tire wear and in extreme cases it can affect the handling (e.g. pulling to one side). Hold off on the alignment until after the winter and they have had time to fix most of the potholes.

 

[Mark_888]

To answer your question regarding the 4-Wheel Alignment, I would say this is optional and not a requirement to keep your warranty.

An alignment is definitely not required to maintain the warranty, since the alignment only has a one year warranty and I believe he is past that (or will be shortly). Failure to perform service on one item (alignment) does not affect the warranty on other things (such as the engine).

 

[dakwonhee]

To answer your question regarding the 4-Wheel Alignment, I would say this is optional and not a requirement to keep your warranty. That said, I would recommend an annual Alignment in the late Spring, since driving on our winter ravaged roads can easily change the factory alignment. If your wheels are not correctly aligned, then you may get abnormal tire wear and in extreme cases it can affect the handling (e.g. pulling to one side). Hold off on the alignment until after the winter and they have had time to fix most of the potholes.

I see what you said..
But the dealer never indicate what is essential and what is only for recommendation..

I better send a complaint to Hyundai Canda Head quarter for indicating what is essential. Also send a file to Korean Hyundai Motors' oversea sales to supervise this kind of things..

Thanks



Cheers!

 

[dakwonhee]

I would just follow what is required in the Hyundai owners manual... The charges are overkill and as far as I know this is highway robbery....
I have owned several Hyundai models and if you follow the manuals requirment you will find it's one of the cheapest cars to maintain ..

Thank you...

I will have to study a lot for the manual....it is not clear....normal condition, severe...mud..salty...what the hell..!!

 

[dakwonhee]

The purpose of operating an automobile dealership is to make as much money as possible. Hyundai dealers in the USA and Canada are not owned by Hyundai, they are independent businesses. Dealers can (and often do) try to get you to have service performed that is not required by your Hyundai maintenance schedule as documented in the owner's manual.

The general recommendation is to ignore xx,xxx km service packages, and only request those things that must be done according to the owner's manual. I am not sure about the 24K km interval for Canada, but that probably only includes an oil change. Maybe tire rotations if they have never been done before. Ignore all the "inspection" stuff in the owner's manual.

If the cabin air filter or engine air filter needs to be changed according to the schedule, you can purchase the part from the parts department and do it yourself. There are videos on YouTube that show how to do it. If you not sure about doing these, ask a friend for help.

Thank you!

I will try to change my engine air filter by myself....and will keep the receipt of the air filter....cabin air filter is not a problem...

Cheers..

 

[Mark_888]

Thank you!

I will try to change my engine air filter by myself....and will keep the receipt of the air filter....cabin air filter is not a problem...

Cheers..

The engine air filter is not usually changed after only one year (2 years or 48K km according to owner's manual). But I would take it out and vacuum it of any debris, and if it doesn't look too dirty after that, it is probably OK.

I am not sure which model year you have, but the air filter on the 2009-2014 is actually easier for most people to replace than the cabin filter (it's a little tricky, but consult the videos on YouTube).

 

[dakwonhee]

The purpose of operating an automobile dealership is to make as much money as possible. Hyundai dealers in the USA and Canada are not owned by Hyundai, they are independent businesses. Dealers can (and often do) try to get you to have service performed that is not required by your Hyundai maintenance schedule as documented in the owner's manual.

The general recommendation is to ignore xx,xxx km service packages, and only request those things that must be done according to the owner's manual. I am not sure about the 24K km interval for Canada, but that probably only includes an oil change. Maybe tire rotations if they have never been done before. Ignore all the "inspection" stuff in the owner's manual.

If the cabin air filter or engine air filter needs to be changed according to the schedule, you can purchase the part from the parts department and do it yourself. There are videos on YouTube that show how to do it. If you not sure about doing these, ask a friend for help.

BTW, Mark_888 ;

If I do tire rotation at home, what about the tpms sensors? Does it do location sensing automatically as per the new location?

Cheers!

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[Mark_888]

BTW, Mark_888 ;

If I do tire rotation at home, what about the tpms sensors? Does it do location sensing automatically as per the new location?

Cheers!

Yes, it will automatically register. At worst, you may have to drive it for about 10 minutes to register.

 

[dakwonhee]

Yes, it will automatically register. At worst, you may have to drive it for about 10 minutes to register.

Thanks for the info!

Cheers!

 

[dakwonhee]

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I have made a chart only for the replacement items of maintenance schedule from owner's manual (Canadian version).

Some reason, all the dealers here in Southern Ontario(GTA), they follow the maintenance under severe usage condition...so I made it same as theirs.
Now, I have decided I will follow my own chart for the maintenance.

Only a concern about the "Inspection items"..
"Ignore all the "inspection" stuff in the owner's manual" as per Mark_888's comment, I didn't summarize for it.
I am not sure, is it ok to ignore? or should I ask the dealer to do "33 point inspections"( I have no idea what they do for this) every 6,000km?

Please give me your opinions...

Cheers!

 

[Mark_888]

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I have made a chart only for the replacement items of maintenance schedule from owner's manual (Canadian version).

Some reason, all the dealers here in Southern Ontario(GTA), they follow the maintenance under severe usage condition...so I made it same as theirs.
Now, I have decided I will follow my own chart for the maintenance.

Only a concern about the "Inspection items"..
"Ignore all the "inspection" stuff in the owner's manual" as per Mark_888's comment, I didn't summarize for it.
I am not sure, is it ok to ignore? or should I ask the dealer to do "33 point inspections"( I have no idea what they do for this) every 6,000km?

Please give me your opinions...

Cheers!

Any time I take it to a dealer for any reason, they do an inspection for free, looking for other things they can service if needed.

If you can inspect the radiator fluid and brake fluid levels yourself, you don't need to pay for an inspection.

The reason the dealer wants to use severe service, and charge you for inspections, is so they can make money. If you want to give it to them, then go ahead.

 

[Maikeru]

There is no reason to do a 4 wheel alignment at the low mileage you have.

I have 3 cars in the driveway..the oldest one has 260,000 km on it, and it might have had one wheel alignment in all that time (and not even sure about that). No tire problems or unusual wear patterns in all that time.. Sometimes an alignment is OK if you are replacing all the tires when the first set wear out, especially if they wore out faster than they should

2nd car has 40,000 km, and again, never an alignment.

3rd car is too new.

Only time you need an alignment is if you start to experience unusual tire wear problems or vibration issues. Dealer is just trying to get extra $$ from you.

PS-I would just let the dealer rotate the tires. It typically is a small cost item, maybe 20 bucks at most, and for that amount of money, I am not going to start switching tires around.

There's no point to writing Hyundai Canada (or Korea) about a dealer trying to sell extra services. That's the whole game plan with dealers and one of the most important ways they make money and profit. You only need to follow what is in the owner's manual..the dealers recommendations are never "required" to keep warranty in place. The are however a way to remove $$$ from you wallet at a quick rate.

 

[dakwonhee]

Any time I take it to a dealer for any reason, they do an inspection for free, looking for other things they can service if needed.

If you can inspect the radiator fluid and brake fluid levels yourself, you don't need to pay for an inspection.

The reason the dealer wants to use severe service, and charge you for inspections, is so they can make money. If you want to give it to them, then go ahead.

Hi, Mark_888! Thanks for the advice.

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After seeing your reply, I checked my coolant fluid and found it is too low!
Actually, It is quite lower than the "L" mark...the blue line in the photo is the coolant level.... today, my car has been parked for 8 hours...

Should I go to dealer for this or just fill it with distilled water?

Please advise!

 

[Mark_888]

Hi, Mark_888! Thanks for advise.

After seeing your reply, I checked my coolant fluid and found it is too low!
Actually, It is quite lower than the "L" mark...the blue line in the photo is the coolant level.... today, my car has been parked for 8 hours...

Should I go to dealer for this or just fill it with distilled water?

Please advise!

Since you live in Canada, you should probably add a 50-50 mix of coolant and distilled water. People living in the southern US could just add distilled water the first time it is low. Make sure you use OEM coolant from the parts department of a Hyundai dealer. A gallon of Hyundai coolant should cost about $20-$25, and is a special formula not easily available at general auto parts stores. It's perfectly safe to drive the car with the coolant at that level, even though it is low.

I have added coolant to my reservoir several times, so it is nothing to worry about. It's good that you refill it yourself, because I would not trust a dealer to use distilled water.

 

[dakwonhee]

There is no reason to do a 4 wheel alignment at the low mileage you have.

I have 3 cars in the driveway..the oldest one has 260,000 km on it, and it might have had one wheel alignment in all that time (and not even sure about that). No tire problems or unusual wear patterns in all that time.. Sometimes an alignment is OK if you are replacing all the tires when the first set wear out, especially if they wore out faster than they should

2nd car has 40,000 km, and again, never an alignment.

3rd car is too new.

Only time you need an alignment is if you start to experience unusual tire wear problems or vibration issues. Dealer is just trying to get extra $$ from you.

PS-I would just let the dealer rotate the tires. It typically is a small cost item, maybe 20 bucks at most, and for that amount of money, I am not going to start switching tires around.

There's no point to writing Hyundai Canada (or Korea) about a dealer trying to sell extra services. That's the whole game plan with dealers and one of the most important ways they make money and profit. You only need to follow what is in the owner's manual..the dealers recommendations are never "required" to keep warranty in place. The are however a way to remove $$$ from you wallet at a quick rate.

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Cheers!

 

[dakwonhee]

Since you live in Canada, you should probably add a 50-50 mix of coolant and distilled water. People living in the southern US could just add distilled water the first time it is low. Make sure you use OEM coolant from the parts department of a Hyundai dealer. A gallon of Hyundai coolant should cost about $20-$25, and is a special formula not easily available at general auto parts stores. It's perfectly safe to drive the car with the coolant at that level, even though it is low.

I have added coolant to my reservoir several times, so it is nothing to worry about. It's good that you refill it yourself, because I would not trust a dealer to use distilled water.

Thank you, Mark_888!

I will buy it and add it. Now, I am getting more confident to do this kind of sefl maintenance things...

Cheers!

 

[Midnightsun]

Whats the deal with the fuel additives? I understood this is required ONLY if you do not use top tier gas. To my knowledge, all major gas stations in Canada are now top tier so essentially the additive is not required?

Does any one have reference to the manual where it states additive requirements?