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Pedestrian Detection Works!

bigdaveinomaha

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Driving to the gym early this morning before any hint of sun was up. The road is a simple two lane road with no shoulder. and it's on the edge of town so no street lights. Some guy was walking along the side of the road (with the flow of traffic) in dark blue jeans and a black jacket. I absolutely did not see him and the Genesis applied the brakes heavily suddenly such that it shocked me and I wondered what the hell was going on. I did not see him until as I was going by. I don't know what the outcome would have been had the car not alerted me, but honestly I don't even want to think about it.
 
I didn't realize the 2015s had pedestrian protection, I thought it was only the later models.
 
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The 2015s don't have pedestrian detection.
 
I'd sure like to know what the hell that was then.
When I first got my '15 sedan I was driving down a road where a bunch of cyclists were on the right hand shoulder. One of them suddenly weaved out a few feet over the line and my Genny slammed on the brakes and gave me all the warning bells. So while I can't say that it has a particular pedestrian detection feature, it sure picked that guy up.

I just think it needs to be something big and solid enough to reflect the radar beam. Perhaps a dog is too low to the ground for it to accurately detect.

Post from another'15 owner. Although mine this time was a single person, not a group of cyclists.
 
Has anyone had the car stop completely for a car completely stopped in the road way. They say the Tesla cannot do this, but there is a commercial of the 2015 Genesis with Technology package doing this with a semi truck slamming on its brakes and a long line of Genesis in a row doing the stop. But I think it was following the truck right before it stopped. The detection systems don't work as well if they did not measure the object moving before it suddenly stops.
 
Has anyone had the car stop completely for a car completely stopped in the road way. They say the Tesla cannot do this, but there is a commercial of the 2015 Genesis with Technology package doing this with a semi truck slamming on its brakes and a long line of Genesis in a row doing the stop. But I think it was following the truck right before it stopped. The detection systems don't work as well if they did not measure the object moving before it suddenly stops.

Suddenly? I have not had this situation happen to me (knocks on wood). If I have Smart Cruise enabled and I am going with traffic, it will bring the car to a stop. I have to engage cruise again for the car to start moving. I hesitate to try a full blown cruise control to a light that has a car stopped at it. I do not have the balls to see if it starts to slow down before I have my left foot engaged (I'm sure there are some standard drivers still out there).

It slows be down heavily if I am coming up to traffic fairly quickly and don't feel like engaging myself but its a bit too harsh.
 
This is not a pedestrian detection/collision warning system. This is simply collision mitigation. Sometimes the system can pick up bicyclists but I've never had a pedestrian trigger it. I'm not sure I like this. I'm assuming that you were in no danger of actually hitting him?
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My 2015 Ultimate "saw" a young man on a skateboard crossing the road at dusk. There was no danger of collision as he finished crossing well before I passed him.
 
Suddenly? I have not had this situation happen to me (knocks on wood). If I have Smart Cruise enabled and I am going with traffic, it will bring the car to a stop. I have to engage cruise again for the car to start moving. I hesitate to try a full blown cruise control to a light that has a car stopped at it. I do not have the balls to see if it starts to slow down before I have my left foot engaged (I'm sure there are some standard drivers still out there).

It slows be down heavily if I am coming up to traffic fairly quickly and don't feel like engaging myself but its a bit too harsh.
The ACC will not see a stopped vehicle. Look to see if you have a car at the top of your AAC display in your MID or HUD. If you are following a car with ACC on it will come to a complete stop when the lead car stops. It stays active for 35-45 seconds then disengages unless the lead car moves. You can reactivate the ACC by the resume button on the steering wheel or by tapping the gas peddle once.
 
The ACC will not see a stopped vehicle. Look to see if you have a car at the top of your AAC display in your MID or HUD. If you are following a car with ACC on it will come to a complete stop when the lead car stops. It stays active for 35-45 seconds then disengages unless the lead car moves. You can reactivate the ACC by the resume button on the steering wheel or by tapping the gas peddle once.

I’m hesitate to believe it won’t see a stopped object. If it reads a moving car in front, it’d have to see a stopped car. It warns me if I get too close to a vehicle that is slowing in front.

***This is ONLY with SCC activated.
 
I’m hesitate to believe it won’t see a stopped object. If it reads a moving car in front, it’d have to see a stopped car. It warns me if I get too close to a vehicle that is slowing in front.

***This is ONLY with SCC activated.
I have come up behind a car stopped at a light. SCC brought me to a dead stop in a very controlled fashion. Disregard that statement that it cannot see a stopped car. Ridiculous.
 
I have come up behind a car stopped at a light. SCC brought me to a dead stop in a very controlled fashion. Disregard that statement that it cannot see a stopped car. Ridiculous.

That makes two of us.
 
I’m hesitate to believe it won’t see a stopped object. If it reads a moving car in front, it’d have to see a stopped car. It warns me if I get too close to a vehicle that is slowing in front.

***This is ONLY with SCC activated.
From the owners manual, pg. 5-68
"The Smart Cruise Control
System cannot recognize a
stopped vehicle, pedestrians
or an oncoming vehicle.
Always look ahead cautiously
to prevent unexpected and
sudden situations from occurring."
The ACC display shows a car at the top of the image when it "sees" a car ahead. the bottom car is yours.

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From the owners manual, pg. 5-68
"The Smart Cruise Control
System cannot recognize a
stopped vehicle, pedestrians
or an oncoming vehicle.
Always look ahead cautiously
to prevent unexpected and
sudden situations from occurring."
The ACC display shows a car at the top of the image when it "sees" a car ahead. the bottom car is yours.

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And yet the manual also says
In traffic, your vehicle will stop if the vehicle ahead of you stops. Also, if the vehicle ahead of you starts moving, your vehicle will start as well. However, if the vehicle stops for more than 3 seconds, you must depress the accelerator pedal or push up the toggle switch (RES+) to start driving.
 
From another 2015 5.0 Ultimate driver, I've had my Genny stop behind stopped cars as well. My last car was a 2015 Grand Cherokee Summit and it never saw stopped cars, especially in the situation where you're following a car that's slowing down and then just before reaching stopped traffic at a stoplight, the lead car jumps over into a left turn lane, thus the car has to change which car it's looking at. Again, the Jeep would punch the gas in that situation (which would really piss my fiance off) and I'd have to manually and aggressively hit the brakes myself. The Genesis in the same situation will "refocus" on the new lead vehicle (assuming you aren't closing too quickly at that point) and apply the brakes harder to bring me to a stop. ALSO, I don't think it's as sensitive depending on which distance setting you're using. Mine won't stop behind slightly aggressive drivers in the closest following distance, but at the second, it's much smoother and seems to "see" more. I always drive mine in the second closest distance setting unless it's raining.

Also I read an article where someone was speaking with a Hyundai engineer about the technology in the car. One portion was specifically about adaptive cruise and why, when competing with the Germans, they would leave out a feature that's becoming increasingly common. The engineer's response basically stated that the hardware is all there for pedestrian/large animal detection just like with the Germans, but they lacked the additional development time to work through it all on the software side. Since, in this litigious age we live in, manufacturers have to over-validate a safety system like that in order to make claims in writing, they can't say that it is a feature because it's not been validated. But in actual practice, most of the time, it will work just like the other systems and react to pedestrians. It sort of blows my mind that this has happened to some members while others try to tell them it didn't. They experienced it with their own car! That means it's a thing!

Something I'm not as familiar with, that maybe some of you can provide input on: The AEB feature. Mine is 'on' in the dash settings, but I've never had the brakes apply automatically. I've had a few instances where, while using SCC the lead car has braked hard enough that the SCC system didn't think it could apply the brakes hard enough to avoid kissing their bumper and began flashing a red highlighted car in the HUD with "Caution!" underneath it at which point I applied more brake force myself. My Jeep (having "Forward Collision Warning with Brake Assist", not "Automatic Emergency Braking") would constantly see a car that was slowing to turn right off the roadway and JAB the brakes while beeping crazily and flashing a red BRAKE! warning on the dash display. Then if it decided I still wasn't paying attention (to the car I knew would be out of my way by the time I was at their location) it would apply 20% of total brake force (since that was all the system had a available to it) until the warning went away or I hit the brakes with my foot. I assume I just haven't been in a situation where the car thought a collision was imminent and went into full AEB. What happens on the HUD/DIC in an AEB situation?
 
From another 2015 5.0 Ultimate driver, I've had my Genny stop behind stopped cars as well. My last car was a 2015 Grand Cherokee Summit and it never saw stopped cars, especially in the situation where you're following a car that's slowing down and then just before reaching stopped traffic at a stoplight, the lead car jumps over into a left turn lane, thus the car has to change which car it's looking at. Again, the Jeep would punch the gas in that situation (which would really piss my fiance off) and I'd have to manually and aggressively hit the brakes myself. The Genesis in the same situation will "refocus" on the new lead vehicle (assuming you aren't closing too quickly at that point) and apply the brakes harder to bring me to a stop. ALSO, I don't think it's as sensitive depending on which distance setting you're using. Mine won't stop behind slightly aggressive drivers in the closest following distance, but at the second, it's much smoother and seems to "see" more. I always drive mine in the second closest distance setting unless it's raining.

Also I read an article where someone was speaking with a Hyundai engineer about the technology in the car. One portion was specifically about adaptive cruise and why, when competing with the Germans, they would leave out a feature that's becoming increasingly common. The engineer's response basically stated that the hardware is all there for pedestrian/large animal detection just like with the Germans, but they lacked the additional development time to work through it all on the software side. Since, in this litigious age we live in, manufacturers have to over-validate a safety system like that in order to make claims in writing, they can't say that it is a feature because it's not been validated. But in actual practice, most of the time, it will work just like the other systems and react to pedestrians. It sort of blows my mind that this has happened to some members while others try to tell them it didn't. They experienced it with their own car! That means it's a thing!

Something I'm not as familiar with, that maybe some of you can provide input on: The AEB feature. Mine is 'on' in the dash settings, but I've never had the brakes apply automatically. I've had a few instances where, while using SCC the lead car has braked hard enough that the SCC system didn't think it could apply the brakes hard enough to avoid kissing their bumper and began flashing a red highlighted car in the HUD with "Caution!" underneath it at which point I applied more brake force myself. My Jeep (having "Forward Collision Warning with Brake Assist", not "Automatic Emergency Braking") would constantly see a car that was slowing to turn right off the roadway and JAB the brakes while beeping crazily and flashing a red BRAKE! warning on the dash display. Then if it decided I still wasn't paying attention (to the car I knew would be out of my way by the time I was at their location) it would apply 20% of total brake force (since that was all the system had a available to it) until the warning went away or I hit the brakes with my foot. I assume I just haven't been in a situation where the car thought a collision was imminent and went into full AEB. What happens on the HUD/DIC in an AEB situation?

I had the AEB apply the brakes on my G90 in the first week...you're just not trying hard enough :)

I timed the car in front of me who was turning right with his being a couple of feet off of my right side as I passed, but as he turned right, the car jammed on the brakes
 
I wonder if it’s software that adds the pedestrian detection it still uses the same camera or a different one
 
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