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Tesla CyberTruck

Regenerative braking does slow the car down...in calm normal situations. However...you will need to apply the brakes in emergency braking or even aggressive situations.
So you go 0-60 so often (thus burning through your rubbers real quick)...this means you need to apply aggressive braking frequently.

When using the brakes...there is friction and wear/tear...so they are NOT "pretty much lifetime". I know you are quoting Musk on this...but all other EV manufacturers that use this same concept admit that brakes need replacing. Just not as often.

So you are wrong here...and misinforming the folks on this board. Just because Musk tweets and brags about stuff does not mean it is true.

This really depends on the driver. I personally don't aggressively drive to the extent of needing to use the brakes much at all - I've gotten used to the regenerative function quite well. I'll gun it from a light or an interstate, and as soon as I step off the pedal, it'll begin slowing down. This is a setting that you can adjust to be really aggressive or not so much at all. I prefer the aggressive setting. I'll still need to make sure the pads are lubricated annually, I don't anticipate my driving style will require a replacement for the life of the car -- not the same can be said for the tires though! Regenerative braking certainly has a learning curve, I've become quite fond of it however.

Their HEPA filters are pretty impressive. I can only imagine the cost...i think like $100 for one filter. Guess what...other cars use HEPA filters !!! Wow. Just because Tesla states that they are good for the apocalypse does not make them any different. HEPA is HEPA. Misinformation/exaggeration again.

$23 on Amazon...

I for one enjoy my defense mode massive HEPA filter that will guard against the zombie apocalypse (maybe I'll have to wait for the cybertruck for this one) and biological warfare, my lungs feel safe. In all seriousness, I have noticed an air quality difference compared to the other vehicles I've had and driven. The response was directed at the fact that there is only one filter I have to change in the vehicle.


There are other manufacturers that are doing autonomous driving tech. Tesla has gone a long way...but by no means should anyone follow their standard. Especially when it Teslas constantly fail at it. Someone was even killed (not sure of others). There are tons of stories of them hitting stuff...or just going out of wack. I am sure that there is other tech out there that Tesla does not use that is better.

Here is a list of several cars and the tech they use. There are others not on the list that are inventing new tech.

Top 3 companies in autonomous tech (Tesla not mentioned)...

Good read...debunks some myths...

So again...you are making it seem like Tesla is the best at it hands down and everyone should copy them. Wrong.

You think Tesla is the only company that can communicate with their cars to analyze data? Wrong. How can you say they will improve quicker than other competitors? That is utter BS. More fanboy information.

This is a great thing that other companies are getting into the game, most of them will be years behind on the overall EV automotive game compared to Tesla. Tesla currently have the market edge (and I think they'll keep it) It certainly isn't perfect as an emerging tech, I haven't seen any other automotive manufacturer push out this grade of technology on a global scale.

I'm a fan of what Waymo is doing (lead by former Hyundai CEO, John Krafcik, which is an incredible gentleman that I've had the pleasure of directly interacting with multiple times), and I hope they continue on their crusade. Why I think Tesla is better here however in a nutshell, is that they presently put in way more miles in monthly learning than Waymo does, by nearly a factor of 750x. This generally will translate to a higher quality autonomy for those fractional situations. Waymo will push for software for the big automotive manufacturers - you can't buy a Waymo car. It will be an additive service to existing vehicles for now. This is a good step for the industry, I personally prefer the full blown vertical integration Tesla presently commands.

AI and machine learning is fascinating to study, these next few years will certainly be exciting in the automotive space.

Lastly...Tesla owners DO look stupid when they go to sleep behind the wheel while their cars are "driving". That is beyond stupidity. It is wreckless...dangerous...and should have their drivers licenses revoked. Has nothing to do with preference of vehicle. It has to do with brain malfunction.

All people that are irresponsible driving look stupid, I agree with that. I'll tell you what though, I feel way safer knowing that if I pass out in a Tesla for whatever reason, the car will automatically slow down and come to a stop with hazards flashing versus barreling into something.

Tesla is made in the USA? Sure. It is also made in China, Germany, etc. And...once again...fanboy information making it seem like all their profits come from USA manufacturing. Trailblazers in vehicle safety? C'mon...do you know how many vehicles have top-notch safety ratings?

The Chinese factory just started production (built in under a year), and the Germany factory is in the early planning/building phases. The company originated here, and is rapidly expanding in the automotive industry to be our #1 domestic brand in value, safety, and technology. You can't expect a successful company not to expand beyond just the US, I'm damn proud that they originated here. With regards to safety, as I explained earlier, there are general safety benchmarks which vehicles have to pass to obtain a top safety pick/5 stars as a safety ranking. Tesla's overall ranking for each one of those categories is safer due to the skateboard design of their vehicles, this provides a lower overall chance of injury compared to other automotive brands. I'm certain that once manufacturers start shifting to the popular skateboard model for their EVs, the rankings will be better as well.

But to add...my issues with Tesla is the CEO...the price gouging of their product...the way the price goes up and down because he f'ing feels like it...the way he manipulates stock (claims he is going private...tells stock owners to ignore the failing price, etc). The shit with Musk and his Tesla company go on and on. There are sooo many other things that are wrong with Tesla as a company. Nobody can deny that.

He's certainly human and made mistakes, he's been at the helm as chief executive longer than any other automotive group currently. They've already hit #3 most valuable automotive brand globally, so they're doing something right. It certainly doesn't deter me personally on owning the car or stock, everyone has their own risk thresholds though.

My neighbor has one. We drink beer. Great guy. But if I ever catch the f$%ker driving down my street reading the paper in one hand and sipping on a coffee with the other...I can guarantee you I will pull him out of his car...hook all the batteries up to his wife's dildo...and shove it soooo far....well...you get the drift...LOL.

You better get those batteries ready, this will happen sooner than you think! I appreciate the conversation and I'm always happy to continue in dialogue about the brand and my experiences with it.

I have generally noticed more of a disdain towards Tesla compared to driving other vehicles. I'm not sure why there is such a high level of that animosity towards the brand. One time at a stoplight a guy told me to take myself and my foreign car (The Model S) back to whatever country I'm from, I laughed and politely told the guy Tesla is an American car.

It is in my opinion a natural evolution to the industry as technology catches up. Lot of times I'll offer a ride along to random people for them to experience it -- and some of the biggest complaints are certainly fit & finish. It's certainly a shock coming from an expected luxury interior like the Genesis or any other luxury brand, it's one trade I've personally been happy to make for the fun, safety, and technology for my most recent purchase.
 
However, Teslas are way over priced. We could have bought two RAV hybrids for the price of one Tesla model S or X. The slight premium of the hybrid over the standard car is easily recouoped with the commute. That same MPG argument doesnt really work with the Teslas because the premium of a $100k car would take forever to recoup.

The X or S doesn't compete in the same segment as the the Rav4 - The Land Cruiser/Sequoia is probably the best product to compare in the price range to the X. The 3 (36kish+) or upcoming model Y (48k+) would be the best comparisons to the Rav4.

Plus, if you can afford $100k for a car, who cares about the MPG costs?
Having a lower cost of ownership lets you have more 100k cars:cigar:
 
Sorry everyone, I didn't intend to start this thread to hate on Tesla. I just wanted to make fun of the CyberTruck, nothing more.

The end. 😬
 
This really depends on the driver. I personally don't aggressively drive to the extent of needing to use the brakes much at all - I've gotten used to the regenerative function quite well. I'll gun it from a light or an interstate, and as soon as I step off the pedal, it'll begin slowing down. This is a setting that you can adjust to be really aggressive or not so much at all. I prefer the aggressive setting. I'll still need to make sure the pads are lubricated annually, I don't anticipate my driving style will require a replacement for the life of the car -- not the same can be said for the tires though! Regenerative braking certainly has a learning curve, I've become quite fond of it however.



I for one enjoy my defense mode massive HEPA filter that will guard against the zombie apocalypse (maybe I'll have to wait for the cybertruck for this one) and biological warfare, my lungs feel safe. In all seriousness, I have noticed an air quality difference compared to the other vehicles I've had and driven. The response was directed at the fact that there is only one filter I have to change in the vehicle.




This is a great thing that other companies are getting into the game, most of them will be years behind on the overall EV automotive game compared to Tesla. Tesla currently have the market edge (and I think they'll keep it) It certainly isn't perfect as an emerging tech, I haven't seen any other automotive manufacturer push out this grade of technology on a global scale.

I'm a fan of what Waymo is doing (lead by former Hyundai CEO, John Krafcik, which is an incredible gentleman that I've had the pleasure of directly interacting with multiple times), and I hope they continue on their crusade. Why I think Tesla is better here however in a nutshell, is that they presently put in way more miles in monthly learning than Waymo does, by nearly a factor of 750x. This generally will translate to a higher quality autonomy for those fractional situations. Waymo will push for software for the big automotive manufacturers - you can't buy a Waymo car. It will be an additive service to existing vehicles for now. This is a good step for the industry, I personally prefer the full blown vertical integration Tesla presently commands.

AI and machine learning is fascinating to study, these next few years will certainly be exciting in the automotive space.



All people that are irresponsible driving look stupid, I agree with that. I'll tell you what though, I feel way safer knowing that if I pass out in a Tesla for whatever reason, the car will automatically slow down and come to a stop with hazards flashing versus barreling into something.



The Chinese factory just started production (built in under a year), and the Germany factory is in the early planning/building phases. The company originated here, and is rapidly expanding in the automotive industry to be our #1 domestic brand in value, safety, and technology. You can't expect a successful company not to expand beyond just the US, I'm damn proud that they originated here. With regards to safety, as I explained earlier, there are general safety benchmarks which vehicles have to pass to obtain a top safety pick/5 stars as a safety ranking. Tesla's overall ranking for each one of those categories is safer due to the skateboard design of their vehicles, this provides a lower overall chance of injury compared to other automotive brands. I'm certain that once manufacturers start shifting to the popular skateboard model for their EVs, the rankings will be better as well.



He's certainly human and made mistakes, he's been at the helm as chief executive longer than any other automotive group currently. They've already hit #3 most valuable automotive brand globally, so they're doing something right. It certainly doesn't deter me personally on owning the car or stock, everyone has their own risk thresholds though.



You better get those batteries ready, this will happen sooner than you think! I appreciate the conversation and I'm always happy to continue in dialogue about the brand and my experiences with it.

I have generally noticed more of a disdain towards Tesla compared to driving other vehicles. I'm not sure why there is such a high level of that animosity towards the brand. One time at a stoplight a guy told me to take myself and my foreign car (The Model S) back to whatever country I'm from, I laughed and politely told the guy Tesla is an American car.

It is in my opinion a natural evolution to the industry as technology catches up. Lot of times I'll offer a ride along to random people for them to experience it -- and some of the biggest complaints are certainly fit & finish. It's certainly a shock coming from an expected luxury interior like the Genesis or any other luxury brand, it's one trade I've personally been happy to make for the fun, safety, and technology for my most recent purchase.
ICE cars arent going anywhere, too much money will be loss and there will be less jobs, we need these things to make our world go round.
 
The X or S doesn't compete in the same segment as the the Rav4 - The Land Cruiser/Sequoia is probably the best product to compare in the price range to the X. The 3 (36kish+) or upcoming model Y (48k+) would be the best comparisons to the Rav4.


Having a lower cost of ownership lets you have more 100k cars:cigar:
but he is trying to say, why spend all that money when you can get same for alot less. and if you have a car that $100k why worry about gas who cares about gas prices? your 10 year ownership with your tesla compare to my 10 year ownership lets say my santa fe my 10 year ownership is not going to exceed $100k so how you figure tesla is lower cost of owner ship? your spending way more. good luck if you get into a accident knock on wood that you dont but your car will be in shop for months and once after that 8 year or 100k miles is up pray that your duracell still holds a charge or that you dont blow your drive motor that repair is over $15k repair.
 
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All people that are irresponsible driving look stupid, I agree with that. I'll tell you what though, I feel way safer knowing that if I pass out in a Tesla for whatever reason, the car will automatically slow down and come to a stop with hazards flashing versus barreling into something.
actually there are a good amount of teslas that barreled into something. i can keep going on with these crashes and you can keep trying to justify how safe your "autopilot" what ever tesla and musk has you thinking you have. and tesla is not the only car that can stop on its own with hazards.
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Sorry everyone, I didn't intend to start this thread to hate on Tesla. I just wanted to make fun of the CyberTruck, nothing more.

The end. 😬
LOL but its not really hating its facts.
 
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The X or S doesn't compete in the same segment as the the Rav4 - The Land Cruiser/Sequoia is probably the best product to compare in the price range to the X. The 3 (36kish+) or upcoming model Y (48k+) would be the best comparisons to the Rav4.


Having a lower cost of ownership lets you have more 100k cars:cigar:
My point of a RAV 4 vs. Tesla was about the MPG argument. If that is a concern and primary reason for a Tesla. In my case (not a rich dude), I'd rather own multiple decent cars including my sunny weather only fun car G70 3.3T Sport than blow all my cash on a Tesla or any other $100k car. Sure, my vehicles add up to over $100k, but they're all paid for and are not just one.
 
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My point of a RAV 4 vs. Tesla was about the MPG argument. If that is a concern and primary reason for a Tesla. In my case (not a rich dude), I'd rather own multiple decent cars including my sunny weather only fun car G70 3.3T Sport than blow all my cash on a Tesla or any other $100k car. Sure, my vehicles add up to over $100k, but they're all paid for and are not just one.
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Sorry everyone, I didn't intend to start this thread to hate on Tesla. I just wanted to make fun of the CyberTruck, nothing more.

The end. 😬
Yeah, C'mon Todd! Lol it started out as a funny, make fun of the cybertrash, but somehow morphed into a Tesla lover's against Tesla haters thread, wtf? :ROFLMAO:

This whole sideshow of a thread should be locked and moved to the off topic, other makes basement.
 
Sorry everyone, I didn't intend to start this thread to hate on Tesla. I just wanted to make fun of the CyberTruck, nothing more.

The end. 😬
Nothing to be sorry about. We all had a good laugh and then it drifted. We are all able to ignore it if we wanted to but. . . .
 
ICE cars arent going anywhere, too much money will be loss and there will be less jobs, we need these things to make our world go round.

Not anytime soon, for sure. The general EV transition will take decades. I also think the general transition away from a middle man (dealerships) is a good thing. More vertical integration by manufacturers will drive higher quality (and retire the companies that don't keep up)

This isn't a bad thing, this is just changing the automotive landscape. In 15 years if we haven't nuked ourselves yet, the majority cars sold here in the states will be EVs. It'll take a bit longer than that to get the majority of cars on the road to be full EVs, probably another 5-10.

actually there are a good amount of teslas that barreled into something. i can keep going on with these crashes and you can keep trying to justify how safe your "autopilot" what ever tesla and musk has you thinking you have. and tesla is not the only car that can stop on its own with hazards.

The definition for autopilot is a system that assists in trajectory without constant manual input - this is a standard feature. It's just a term Tesla uses for their basic features, safety and otherwise. The premium/advanced feature (currently 7k) "Full Self Driving" - is constantly being improved. Nothing prevents dumb drivers from being dumb, these systems can just help mitigate those factors. It's the most advanced mass market system out right now, but it certainly isn't full self driving yet. It will take a few years for that.

why spend all that money when you can get same for alot less. and if you have a car that $100k why worry about gas who cares about gas prices? your 10 year ownership with your tesla compare to my 10 year ownership lets say my santa fe my 10 year ownership is not going to exceed $100k so how you figure tesla is lower cost of owner ship? your spending way more. good luck if you get into a accident knock on wood that you dont but your car will be in shop for months and once after that 8 year or 100k miles is up pray that your duracell still holds a charge or that you dont blow your drive motor that repair is over $15k repair.


My point of a RAV 4 vs. Tesla was about the MPG argument. If that is a concern and primary reason for a Tesla. In my case (not a rich dude), I'd rather own multiple decent cars including my sunny weather only fun car G70 3.3T Sport than blow all my cash on a Tesla or any other $100k car. Sure, my vehicles add up to over $100k, but they're all paid for and are not just one.

In my personal experience, the battery technology was way more expensive years ago (a similar model S would be 140k-150k), it's slowly dropping and efficiency is constantly improving to the point I felt fine with having one. There was nothing more quicker, safer, and fun. That's personal taste though - the torque is addicting.

You want to have an apples to apples comparison, yeah? It can't be a car that's stickers 3x higher (a 35k+ Santa Fe or Rav4 vs a 100k+ Model S). Any comparable ICE vs EV comparison will favor the EV in a cost of ownership comparison -- especially a 10 year one. Here's a decent article that points to the Model 3 cost of ownership cheaper than a Camry.

It's easy to hate an emerging technology, especially by those directly affected by the changing landscape. Certainly reminiscent of the "Get a horse!" movement and skepticism towards the first automobiles.

Happy new years to everyone! Taking bets on who will buy the first EV -- Cgo, MG8, or Beeter. They'll all be owners eventually ;)
 
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Not anytime soon, for sure. The general EV transition will take decades. I also think the general transition away from a middle man (dealerships) is a good thing. More vertical integration by manufacturers will drive higher quality (and retire the companies that don't keep up)

This isn't a bad thing, this is just changing the automotive landscape. In 15 years if we haven't nuked ourselves yet, the majority cars sold here in the states will be EVs. It'll take a bit longer than that to get the majority of cars on the road to be full EVs, probably another 5-10.



The definition for autopilot is a system that assists in trajectory without constant manual input - this is a standard feature. It's just a term Tesla uses for their basic features, safety and otherwise. The premium/advanced feature (currently 7k) "Full Self Driving" - is constantly being improved. Nothing prevents dumb drivers from being dumb, these systems can just help mitigate those factors. It's the most advanced mass market system out right now, but it certainly isn't full self driving yet. It will take a few years for that.






In my personal experience, the battery technology was way more expensive years ago (a similar model S would be 140k-150k), it's slowly dropping and efficiency is constantly improving to the point I felt fine with having one. There was nothing more quicker, safer, and fun. That's personal taste though - the torque is addicting.

You want to have an apples to apples comparison, yeah? It can't be a car that's stickers 3x higher (a 35k+ Santa Fe or Rav4 vs a 100k+ Model S). Any comparable ICE vs EV comparison will favor the EV in a cost of ownership comparison -- especially a 10 year one. Here's a decent article that points to the Model 3 cost of ownership cheaper than a Camry.

It's easy to hate an emerging technology, especially by those directly affected by the changing landscape. Certainly reminiscent of the "Get a horse!" movement and skepticism towards the first automobiles.

Happy new years to everyone! Taking bets on who will buy the first EV -- Cgo, MG8, or Beeter. They'll all be owners eventually ;)
Not anytime soon, for sure. The general EV transition will take decades. I also think the general transition away from a middle man (dealerships) is a good thing. More vertical integration by manufacturers will drive higher quality (and retire the companies that don't keep up)

This isn't a bad thing, this is just changing the automotive landscape. In 15 years if we haven't nuked ourselves yet, the majority cars sold here in the states will be EVs. It'll take a bit longer than that to get the majority of cars on the road to be full EVs, probably another 5-10.



The definition for autopilot is a system that assists in trajectory without constant manual input - this is a standard feature. It's just a term Tesla uses for their basic features, safety and otherwise. The premium/advanced feature (currently 7k) "Full Self Driving" - is constantly being improved. Nothing prevents dumb drivers from being dumb, these systems can just help mitigate those factors. It's the most advanced mass market system out right now, but it certainly isn't full self driving yet. It will take a few years for that.






In my personal experience, the battery technology was way more expensive years ago (a similar model S would be 140k-150k), it's slowly dropping and efficiency is constantly improving to the point I felt fine with having one. There was nothing more quicker, safer, and fun. That's personal taste though - the torque is addicting.

You want to have an apples to apples comparison, yeah? It can't be a car that's stickers 3x higher (a 35k+ Santa Fe or Rav4 vs a 100k+ Model S). Any comparable ICE vs EV comparison will favor the EV in a cost of ownership comparison -- especially a 10 year one. Here's a decent article that points to the Model 3 cost of ownership cheaper than a Camry.

It's easy to hate an emerging technology, especially by those directly affected by the changing landscape. Certainly reminiscent of the "Get a horse!" movement and skepticism towards the first automobiles.

Happy new years to everyone! Taking bets on who will buy the first EV -- Cgo, MG8, or Beeter. They'll all be owners eventually ;)
Doubt it ,Not a sheep here , monkey see monkey do does not work for me. And If I ever did it wont be a tesla but highly doubt it though . I bought the Genesis to be different ,unique I love how you dont see much Rspecs on the road and that they only had a two year stint, I dont want to be like everyone else you starting to see teslas at every stop light and all over the HoV lane and they all look the same hahaha. If it ever gets to that I'll be the one percent that wont be driving a BEV.
 
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Not anytime soon, for sure. The general EV transition will take decades. I also think the general transition away from a middle man (dealerships) is a good thing. More vertical integration by manufacturers will drive higher quality (and retire the companies that don't keep up)

This isn't a bad thing, this is just changing the automotive landscape. In 15 years if we haven't nuked ourselves yet, the majority cars sold here in the states will be EVs. It'll take a bit longer than that to get the majority of cars on the road to be full EVs, probably another 5-10.



The definition for autopilot is a system that assists in trajectory without constant manual input - this is a standard feature. It's just a term Tesla uses for their basic features, safety and otherwise. The premium/advanced feature (currently 7k) "Full Self Driving" - is constantly being improved. Nothing prevents dumb drivers from being dumb, these systems can just help mitigate those factors. It's the most advanced mass market system out right now, but it certainly isn't full self driving yet. It will take a few years for that.






In my personal experience, the battery technology was way more expensive years ago (a similar model S would be 140k-150k), it's slowly dropping and efficiency is constantly improving to the point I felt fine with having one. There was nothing more quicker, safer, and fun. That's personal taste though - the torque is addicting.

You want to have an apples to apples comparison, yeah? It can't be a car that's stickers 3x higher (a 35k+ Santa Fe or Rav4 vs a 100k+ Model S). Any comparable ICE vs EV comparison will favor the EV in a cost of ownership comparison -- especially a 10 year one. Here's a decent article that points to the Model 3 cost of ownership cheaper than a Camry.

It's easy to hate an emerging technology, especially by those directly affected by the changing landscape. Certainly reminiscent of the "Get a horse!" movement and skepticism towards the first automobiles.

Happy new years to everyone! Taking bets on who will buy the first EV -- Cgo, MG8, or Beeter. They'll all be owners eventually ;)
Dude, give it up already! Ok, ok, we get it, you love Teslas, have one and two more on order; congrats! Enjoy!

I dont care about the comparisons. There is no direct comparison between an EV and ICE. Totally different animals. Besides, many of us dont keep cars long enough to ever recoup the added costs. I keep cars about 3 to 4 years tops. Teslas are overpriced for what they are. The interiors look like they were assembled by children.

I'd rather spend $100k on a Porsche Panamera, C63 AMG, Auidi S7, or similar. I certainly wouldnt spend $60k on a duck faced Model 3 POS.

You're not going to change any minds; not mine at least. Electric vehicles do nothing for me. They're soulless. Fast? Sure, on a full charge... Cool tech? Ok. Sound like an appliance? Yup. For me and many other car enthusiasts, the sound of a high performance engine is 75% of the total experience and electric vehicles just cant provide that.

I'll just continue clinging to my bible, guns, and fossil fuel vehicles which will still be the majority on the road for the remainder of my lifetime anyway.

Good luck with your Teslas but I assure you that i will not be buying one or any other EV anytime soon.
 
Dude, give it up already! Ok, ok, we get it, you love Teslas, have one and two more on order; congrats! Enjoy!

I dont care about the comparisons. There is no direct comparison between an EV and ICE. Totally different animals. Besides, many of us dont keep cars long enough to ever recoup the added costs. I keep cars about 3 to 4 years tops. Teslas are overpriced for what they are. The interiors look like they were assembled by children.

I'd rather spend $100k on a Porsche Panamera, C63 AMG, Auidi S7, or similar. I certainly wouldnt spend $60k on a duck faced Model 3 POS.

You're not going to change any minds; not mine at least. Electric vehicles do nothing for me. They're soulless. Fast? Sure, on a full charge... Cool tech? Ok. Sound like an appliance? Yup. For me and many other car enthusiasts, the sound of a high performance engine is 75% of the total experience and electric vehicles just cant provide that.

I'll just continue clinging to my bible, guns, and fossil fuel vehicles which will still be the majority on the road for the remainder of my lifetime anyway.

Good luck with your Teslas but I assure you that i will not be buying one or any other EV anytime soon.
Thank you. I got all pissed days ago...and felt pressured to justify. His posts drive one insane...like a Tesla advertisement!!! Zero facts.

Every fact against is polished off as a rewording of misinformation.

Starting to think he works for Tesla. Too much love.

I would correct one thing you said...RS7 😜
 
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Dude, give it up already! Ok, ok, we get it, you love Teslas, have one and two more on order; congrats! Enjoy!

I dont care about the comparisons. There is no direct comparison between an EV and ICE. Totally different animals. Besides, many of us dont keep cars long enough to ever recoup the added costs. I keep cars about 3 to 4 years tops. Teslas are overpriced for what they are. The interiors look like they were assembled by children.

I'd rather spend $100k on a Porsche Panamera, C63 AMG, Auidi S7, or similar. I certainly wouldnt spend $60k on a duck faced Model 3 POS.

You're not going to change any minds; not mine at least. Electric vehicles do nothing for me. They're soulless. Fast? Sure, on a full charge... Cool tech? Ok. Sound like an appliance? Yup. For me and many other car enthusiasts, the sound of a high performance engine is 75% of the total experience and electric vehicles just cant provide that.

I'll just continue clinging to my bible, guns, and fossil fuel vehicles which will still be the majority on the road for the remainder of my lifetime anyway.

Good luck with your Teslas but I assure you that i will not be buying one or any other EV anytime soon.
Amen
 
Thank you. I got all pissed days ago...and felt pressured to justify. His posts drive one insane...like a Tesla advertisement!!! Zero facts.

Every fact against is polished off as a rewording of misinformation.

Starting to think he works for Tesla. Too much love.

I would correct one thing you said...RS7 😜
Yes, I meant RS7!
 
His posts drive one insane...like a Tesla advertisement!!! Zero facts.

Every fact against is polished off as a rewording of misinformation.

Starting to think he works for Tesla. Too much love.

Lol. Don't let me live rent free in your head. Tesla couldn't pay me enough to work with them. The stock doing well in the portfolio is good enough.

They don't do the traditional at scale advertisements or endorsements you see other automotive manufacturers do - they put that money into R&D and their vehicles. Any strong advertisements you see online are probably fan made.

What specifically is misinformation or rewording here? Everything I've written is based on my research over many years and personal experience with the company. If you or anyone has actual objective facts aside from the subjective "Electric man and his company are the worst, they suck", I'd be happy to continue dialogue at a technical level. Otherwise, it's all preference and I can respect and appreciate yours. I think I've defined mine, and quelled some common misconceptions :)

Otherwise, let's take this thread back to the roots of it's originating principle, making fun of the tuktuk

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