New tires

[carguy75]

I have the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 A/S as well. Excellent tires. Discount Tire advisor warned me about the staggered tires and that the rear ones were only covered at half the mileage warranty (22,500 miles).

PLEASE MAKE SURE TO EXERCISE THE TREAD WEAR WARRANTY. If the manufacturer says these are 60,000 mile tires and you don't even make it to 30,000, you are entitled to 50% back on a replacement tire. Discount Tire is excellent dealing with the manufacturers to get you a replacement.

As for tire price, I bought over Labor Day weekend and got a massive rebate. Shop around the holidays!

True. My Yokohama ADVAN Sport A/S+ tire has a great 55k mile warranty in standard fit installations, but only a 27.5k mile warranty for staggered fit.



Tip: To get more tire performance(reduced under-steer) on a staggered fit RWD Genesis just flip the recommended tire pressures on the door jam. My Genesis with the Yokohama tires grip like it on rails when I swapped the tire pressures to 35 psi front/33 psi rear. The stock 33psi front/35psi rear tire pressure setting is set more for safer under-steer driving, but severely affects handling for more spirited drivers.

 

[cobracommand]

I just had a tire/wheel snafu. Hit a curb, bent the wheel needed a replacement on passenger the side rear.

So weighing my options I decided to ditch the staggered setup on my 5.0 and switched to the front 245s all the way around.
Pricing on the smaller tires at least around me is waaaaay cheaper. Like 4 245 tires for the price of a single 275.

My 5.0 is AWD so traction wasn't a concern especially in the summer. Plus now I can do rotations to squeeze some more life out my tires.

 

[carguy75]

I just had a tire/wheel snafu. Hit a curb, bent the wheel needed a replacement on passenger the side rear.

So weighing my options I decided to ditch the staggered setup on my 5.0 and switched to the front 245s all the way around.
Pricing on the smaller tires at least around me is waaaaay cheaper. Like 4 245 tires for the price of a single 275.

My 5.0 is AWD so traction wasn't a concern especially in the summer. Plus now I can do rotations to squeeze some more life out my tires.

One 275 tire cost as much as (4) 245 tires? A 275 tire may cost about $30 more than a 245 on a set, but not 4x as much.

Here is what I paid for my staggered set of tire from my local Discount Tires minus taxes,mounting and balancing .

 

[daviderle]

I just replaced the Michelins AS3+ plus all season tires, with somewhat unusual set up of AS4 all season in the front and AS4s sport in the back.
I only have 500 miles or so on them so far, and even we had plenty of rain lately I have got say I am loving the grip so far. In dry conditions the even with sports mode selected spirited driving is far more controlled than before.

 

[Crimson]

Finally got in to the dealer to get my alignment checked, showed them the wear on the front Yoko's, and explained I'm on 3rd set of rears in 1 year. (averaging 10-13K on the rear) They checked, said front and back were waaay out. Couldn't get specifics. But week before I had this appointment, I also lost my 2nd ABS wheel sensor. Covered under warranty, but part is backordered. Now my dash lights (AEB, Traction Control, ABS) look like Christmas, at least for the next couple of weeks. One other thing...the mechanic stated even tho I'm staggered, I should still rotate the tires. Any of you 5.0 guys doing that?

 

[Markymark]

Finally got in to the dealer to get my alignment checked, showed them the wear on the front Yoko's, and explained I'm on 3rd set of rears in 1 year. (averaging 10-13K on the rear) They checked, said front and back were waaay out. Couldn't get specifics. But week before I had this appointment, I also lost my 2nd ABS wheel sensor. Covered under warranty, but part is backordered. Now my dash lights (AEB, Traction Control, ABS) look like Christmas, at least for the next couple of weeks. One other thing...the mechanic stated even tho I'm staggered, I should still rotate the tires. Any of you 5.0 guys doing that?

Yes, I have them rotate left and right. With new rears at $300+ per, I reckon it's worth doing.

 

[Ragnar]

I went with the Continental Extreme Contacts ,so we’ll see how they last!

 

[glennk]

I went with the Continental Extreme Contacts ,so we’ll see how they last!

I think you'll be happy. Michelin Pilot Sports, Continental ContiExtreme Contacts and Pirelli Pzeros all appear to be within the top three. Pirellis do have a softer tire compound and wear faster.

 

[Markymark]

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[Markymark]

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Well, I had to get my fronts replaced. After only 20000 miles and the place where the sidewall meets the tread is down to the wires/cloth. It would have failed very soon. I can’t fight Michellin on the warranty because I missed a rotation, but I don’t think rotaring more frequently would have helped anyway.
The right was only a little better. Going with continentals.
I am a little disappointed that they didn’t last longer. Oh well.

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[glennk]

Remember these are heavy vehicles. Subsequently, they wear the tires faster. When driving my RL (like a bat out of...), i was going through tires every year. Although, I was getting refunded the difference from Pirelli (Pzero Neros) towards a new set.

 

[skipgen]

Well, I had to get my fronts replaced. After only 20000 miles and the place where the sidewall meets the tread is down to the wires/cloth. It would have failed very soon. I can’t fight Michellin on the warranty because I missed a rotation, but I don’t think rotaring more frequently would have helped anyway.
The right was only a little better. Going with continentals.
I am a little disappointed that they didn’t last longer. Oh well.

My Infinti G37s staggered set always wore out on the rears first....

 

[Markymark]

Remember these are heavy vehicles. Subsequently, they wear the tires faster. When driving my RL (like a bat out of...), i was going through tires every year. Although, I was getting refunded the difference from Pirelli (Pzero Neros) towards a new set.

Yes, I know. In my case I must have hit a big bump and effed up the alignment as well, because I noticed a slight pulling to the left for a week or two. I checked the inner front left tire and only then noticed how bad the wear was. The steel wires and fabric was visible. It could have been bad if the tire failed at highway speeds.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of low profile tires. The ride is harsh and you really need to avoid potholes. That's very difficult in a third world area like Memphis.

 

[Ragnar]

Agreed, one thing I definitely noticed was the harsh ride these tires tend to give you ,one other thing is seeing as curb heights are the same as they were in the 1950s curb rash is much more prevalent than years past with taller sidewalls.

 

[bigdogbts]

Replaced the original Michelins with some Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS'. Barely 20k miles later, they're "worn out" according to my tire guy. Mileage warranty says that I should have 57% of the original mileage left. Keep in mind that I'm driving a 3.8 HTRAC, not a 5.0, and I'm STILL getting serious wear. Alignment was last checked when I went in for the most recent recall, and everything was fine. I'm not digging having to put $500 worth of new tires on this thing every 2-3 years (because I'm getting credit from the mileage warranty). Have we decided that the Michelin Pilot Sports are the way to go for all season?

 

[carguy75]

Replaced the original Michelins with some Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS'. Barely 20k miles later, they're "worn out" according to my tire guy. Mileage warranty says that I should have 57% of the original mileage left. Keep in mind that I'm driving a 3.8 HTRAC, not a 5.0, and I'm STILL getting serious wear. Alignment was last checked when I went in for the most recent recall, and everything was fine. I'm not digging having to put $500 worth of new tires on this thing every 2-3 years (because I'm getting credit from the mileage warranty). Have we decided that the Michelin Pilot Sports are the way to go for all season?

It seems like 20k miles or so is how long set of tires last on our cars. Non-staggered fit cars could probably gain more mileage with tire rotations.

Michelin Pilot Sport tires are top rated tires, so you could not go wrong with buying those. However, they will probably last as long as the other major brand name tires on our cars.

 

[bigdogbts]

It seems like 20k miles or so is how long set of tires last on our cars. Non-staggered fit cars could probably gain more mileage with tire rotations.

Michelin Pilot Sport tires are top rated tires, so you could not go wrong with buying those. However, they will probably last as long as the other major brand name tires on our cars.

I think that's what's most frustrating. I rotated those tires every 7K miles religiously. My third rotation is when my tire guy pretty much threw in the towel. I think I'm going to go with the PS4's. Michelin's own product literature directly compares them to the potenzas that I currently have, and supposedly:

"has up to 29% more tread life than leading competitors. *Based on an internal treadwear test conducted on public roads versus the Bridgestone® Potenza™ RE980AS Pole Position™ (-29%), Continental® ExtremeContact™ DWS06 (-12%), Pirelli® P ZERO™ ALL SEASON Plus (-25%), and Goodyear® Eagle® Exhilarate™ (-23%) in tire size 245/40ZR18, using 2018 BMW 320i. Actual on-road results may vary."​

I wonder if a more aggressive rotation schedule would improve the situation?

 

[EdP]

Replaced the original Michelins with some Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS'. Barely 20k miles later, they're "worn out" according to my tire guy. Mileage warranty says that I should have 57% of the original mileage left. Keep in mind that I'm driving a 3.8 HTRAC, not a 5.0, and I'm STILL getting serious wear. Alignment was last checked when I went in for the most recent recall, and everything was fine. I'm not digging having to put $500 worth of new tires on this thing every 2-3 years (because I'm getting credit from the mileage warranty). Have we decided that the Michelin Pilot Sports are the way to go for all season?

How many miles did you get on the originals? I had a 2015 and 2018 HTRAC and from the originals got 35,000 miles.
OTOH, if you are putting on four tires for $500 I'd not have high expectations.

 

[carguy75]

I think that's what's most frustrating. I rotated those tires every 7K miles religiously. My third rotation is when my tire guy pretty much threw in the towel. I think I'm going to go with the PS4's. Michelin's own product literature directly compares them to the potenzas that I currently have, and supposedly:

"has up to 29% more tread life than leading competitors. *Based on an internal treadwear test conducted on public roads versus the Bridgestone® Potenza™ RE980AS Pole Position™ (-29%), Continental® ExtremeContact™ DWS06 (-12%), Pirelli® P ZERO™ ALL SEASON Plus (-25%), and Goodyear® Eagle® Exhilarate™ (-23%) in tire size 245/40ZR18, using 2018 BMW 320i. Actual on-road results may vary."​

I wonder if a more aggressive rotation schedule would improve the situation?

I believe a more aggressive tire rotation could help extend the life of the tires. Maybe every 5k miles or so.

29% percent is still not that much of a gain in tire life. A 20k mile tire for example will probably only gain about 6k miles with a 29% gain. 26k miles is better than 20k miles, but not all that impressive considering the price of Michelin Pilot tires over the competition.

 

[bigdogbts]

How many miles did you get on the originals? I had a 2015 and 2018 HTRAC and from the originals got 35,000 miles.
OTOH, if you are putting on four tires for $500 I'd not have high expectations.

I'm putting on 4 new tires for a $1k, but when I'm getting a 57% treadwear warranty proration, I'm basically rolling about a $500 credit into my next set of tires each time.

I purchased the car CPO, and I'm about 95% sure that the MX4's that were on it when I purchased it (with a little under 38K on the car) might have been the second set. I put the Bridgestones on at about 50K.