G70 aftermarket brake pads

[slimjim2525]

I need some help here. My dealership (Genesis of Cool Spring) replaced my front rotors under warranty due to the infamous vibration. They tried however to play a fast one by telling me that the pads were not to be covered under warranty and quoted me $550 PER SIDE to proceed (I checked and in the invoiced issued during the last service, they quoted both the rotors and the pads as warranty). Long story short, I told them to shove it and to put the old pads back in place. I immediately ordered what I could find from Rockauto (PowerStop Z23) and installed them ASAP to not damage my new rotors. It is the first time I install pads myself. The install was a breeze, the kit included everything including new pins and spring brackets. I did the bedding and things seem fine. They brake well and strong, with no vibrations, noise, or anything. the only thing I miss is that they lack some of the initial "bite" that the OE pads had, otherwise they feel as strong, a little more linear, which I find to be more comfortable when the car brakes on its own in stop and go traffic. Here is my concern: when the brakes are cold, when I brake for the first time, I hear a faint "clunk". It does not happen afterward but if I back up the car and put it back forward, the 'clunk' comes back that the first brake pressure. I keep researching and I see all kinds of opinions about that. Everything else seems fine but I am uneasy with the idea that something may be wiggling. Does anyone have any experience with that?

Your pads are moving. Take apart and check you have the retaining clips in correctly. Look for bent pins at this point.

 

[canucklehead604]

Just an FYI, I tracked my car last night. Heavy braking from 120mph down to 50 or so in a very short period. Brakes worked great. A lot of brake dust at expected, but a little simple green and a pressure washer, and all clean.

^ that looks awesome. good on you for taking your ride on the track. that is the single best and most fun thing a guy can do with a performance-oriented ride! i call it a "driver mod", which does more to improve a car's performance than any cold air intake. ha ha

lol at the Jetta in front of you at the start. luckily you were allowed to pass and did so quickly! i saw him run into the dirt an low speeds which probably didn't push your G70 at all.

also glad to hear the Euro pads held up. i have researched the dynamic friction pads and will be watching closely for when it is my turn to re+re my Euro pads.

 

[Hellothere]

Yup that pair is what Rob mentioned. The stoptech sport for the front and posiquiet for the back. The stoptech are available on amazon (free shipping and will arrive sooner). I cannot for the life of me find the rear stoptech pads, which makes me believe they do not exist. Would explain why Rob has the posiquiets for the rear as an alternative.

You could go with what canuckle said. I do believe the posiquiets are available for both the front and back, just not from Uniq...

The rear part number for Stoptech street is hard to find. I think it does exist though. The K8stingerstore has them for sale. Out of stock for rears currently

Kia Stinger 3.3T - Stoptech Performance - Front & Rear Street Ceramic Brake Pads

Enhance your Kia Stinger braking system with the Stoptech Performance Brake Pads. These pads are carefully selected & tested for optimum results that offer better performance & longevity. These pads are made with Para-aramid composites which provide linear response regardless of pad temperature...

www.k8stingerstore.com

I think Stop Street Front is 308.10010

 

[ryan_g]

To those of you that have installed the euro pads, how much worse is the brake dust versus the standard pads? I'm willing to deal with the increase in dust for better performance, but just wondering how bad it's going to be

 

[BadTrainDriver]

To those of you that have installed the euro pads, how much worse is the brake dust versus the standard pads? I'm willing to deal with the increase in dust for better performance, but just wondering how bad it's going to be

It's pretty bad, I'll not lie. I can thoroughly wash my wheels, and there's visible brake dust after the first drive. Three days or so of driving, the wheels are dirty dirty. Braking however is fantastic.

 

[Husky]

To those of you that have installed the euro pads, how much worse is the brake dust versus the standard pads? I'm willing to deal with the increase in dust for better performance, but just wondering how bad it's going to be

Maybe I'm just used to it from my other cars, but it doesn't bother me. Definitely more dust, but it washes off easily and with my dark grey wheels I don't notice it too much.
Any decent performance pad is going to do it. I would never go back. Don't know if anyone has found a ceramic pad that works on these cars (no vibration issues after a few months or more) and has low dust.

 

[canucklehead604]

To those of you that have installed the euro pads, how much worse is the brake dust versus the standard pads? I'm willing to deal with the increase in dust for better performance, but just wondering how bad it's going to be

^ if you have the Sport rims (the dark 5 spokers) then the dust is concealed well. plus, those wheels are super easy to clean. the beauty 10-spoke machined finish wheels would be more of a pain to wash - plus they'll not conceal the dust as well.

i agree with above from BTD - after a round trip commute there is a thin layer of dust and it accumulates from there. if you wash ~weekly it's no big deal. if you left it a month or put on a ton of miles it'd be a thick coat. but not having uneven pad deposits makes it worth the effort, IMO

 

[Hellothere]

^ if you have the Sport rims (the dark 5 spokers) then the dust is concealed well. plus, those wheels are super easy to clean. the beauty 10-spoke machined finish wheels would be more of a pain to wash - plus they'll not conceal the dust as well.

i agree with above from BTD - after a round trip commute there is a thin layer of dust and it accumulates from there. if you wash ~weekly it's no big deal. if you left it a month or put on a ton of miles it'd be a thick coat. but not having uneven pad deposits makes it worth the effort, IMO

I’ve seen you mentioned ceramic pads were a issue on your G37 as well. Does that mean we have to avoid ALL ceramic? Cause I’m leaning towards EBC Redstuff or Hawks Performance Ceramic.

I’ve got EBC yellowstuff currently to scrub the rotors clean, but would prefer a ceramic for brake dust control afterwards.

Also has anyone else noticed inside rear brake pads wearing significantly more than the outside?

 

[randomfrequency]

To those of you that have installed the euro pads, how much worse is the brake dust versus the standard pads? I'm willing to deal with the increase in dust for better performance, but just wondering how bad it's going to be

It's pretty bad. Someone asked me if I had matte wheels once.

I've had long/hard drives where I had to go at the dust with a scrub brush after using wheel cleaner.

Great brakes though. Pricey for replacements though, apparently should be done at 4mm.

 

[DustyBTrippin]

Hi All,

I, like canucklehead604 am one of those proud 6MT owners (also, Canadian, as you'll see below). Love the car! It's my daily driver; I haven't ever tracked it, but I do enjoy some spirited driving.

When getting my 60,000km servicing, I was informed by my dealer that the pads are down to 2mm-4mm and due for replacement, then quoted me an absurd $2500CAD for the pad & rotor replacement. I called a different Genesis dealer (Mississauga) just for part costs and was quoted $580CAD for front pads, $450CAD for rear pads, $400CAD for front rotors, $360 for rear rotors. (hating COVID for so many reasons now!)

Needless to say, I'm looking aftermarket at this point (and possibly doing the job myself). I fear that I may be doing something wrong, because the rockauto prices for the pads are roughly 1/8 of what I was quoted (I recognize they're not OEM, but still):
Front Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214501 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $71.51CAD
Rear Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214401 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $56.38CAD
Front Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421038 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $85.73 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121039L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $118.93 x2
Rear Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421039 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $106.24 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121038L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $147.13 + $150.97 (not sure why they're different prices, but whatever)

So would I be doing something totally wrong getting these at a fraction of the price of dealer OEM parts? Also, if I'm swapping out pads and rotors to aftermarket, would I still have to go with the "euro" spec semi-metallic style pads, or could I go to a ceramic pad and still avoid the dreaded shudder?

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[canucklehead604]

i doubt you are doing anything wrong. and i am keen to hear about your results. i will very likely be going with Dynamic Friction pads when i need to do the change. i have a ways to go since i'm just over 20k kms.

i love rockauto. use them all the time. occasionally i can find parts cheaper elsewhere, but the combination of price, selection, and shipment can't be beat. just recently i bought spark plugs and coil packs for my BMW 540i from rockauto. my savings were similar to what you are seeing. BMW dealer wanted $240 or so for the coil pack. i paid $40, OE manufacturer and part #.

my only comment is for the pad compound. the 3000 semi-metallic may not be a match for our Euro sport pads. take a look at the DFC active performance pad. the performance chart looks very similar to my experience with the Euro sport pads. they also have the Euro 5000 which is a ceramic, but i agree we should stick to a semi-metallic to maintain our excellent pad characteristics that is a huge upgrade compared to the stock ceramics. sure, we deal with lots of dust, a bit of noise, and reduced rotor life. there's always a tradeoff.

 

[Jlapaglia]

Hi All,

I, like canucklehead604 am one of those proud 6MT owners (also, Canadian, as you'll see below). Love the car! It's my daily driver; I haven't ever tracked it, but I do enjoy some spirited driving.

When getting my 60,000km servicing, I was informed by my dealer that the pads are down to 2mm-4mm and due for replacement, then quoted me an absurd $2500CAD for the pad & rotor replacement. I called a different Genesis dealer (Mississauga) just for part costs and was quoted $580CAD for front pads, $450CAD for rear pads, $400CAD for front rotors, $360 for rear rotors. (hating COVID for so many reasons now!)

Needless to say, I'm looking aftermarket at this point (and possibly doing the job myself). I fear that I may be doing something wrong, because the rockauto prices for the pads are roughly 1/8 of what I was quoted (I recognize they're not OEM, but still):
Front Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214501 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $71.51CAD
Rear Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214401 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $56.38CAD
Front Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421038 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $85.73 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121039L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $118.93 x2
Rear Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421039 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $106.24 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121038L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $147.13 + $150.97 (not sure why they're different prices, but whatever)

So would I be doing something totally wrong getting these at a fraction of the price of dealer OEM parts? Also, if I'm swapping out pads and rotors to aftermarket, would I still have to go with the "euro" spec semi-metallic style pads, or could I go to a ceramic pad and still avoid the dreaded shudder?

I tried the dynamic friction 3000 semi metallic pads on my stock front rotors and they were loud and got annoying. I went back to stock pads for now. I’m not sure which ones you have (looks like similar pad) but something to consider.

Edit: I have the regular stock pads, not the euro pads.

 

[pulsar]

I tried the dynamic friction 3000 semi metallic pads on my stock front rotors and they were loud and got annoying. I went back to stock pads for now. I’m not sure which ones you have (looks like similar pad) but something to consider.

Edit: I have the regular stock pads, not the euro pads.

How do we know which pads came from the factory? My G70 sport has whatever it came with and I always assumed it was not the more expensive euro pads but could be wrong. I’ve been fine with the factory pads so at replacement time would probably just put back what is there now.

 

[Husky]

I believe only the 6MT and Dynamic edition have the "Euro pads" (and I guess European models?). If your Sport is not a manual, you've got the crappy ceramic pads. Sorry. How many miles do you have on your car? It would be surprising if you don't encounter the brake vibration problem, unless you manage to never brake hard.

 

[pulsar]

I believe only the 6MT and Dynamic edition have the "Euro pads" (and I guess European models?). If your Sport is not a manual, you've got the crappy ceramic pads. Sorry. How many miles do you have on your car? It would be surprising if you don't encounter the brake vibration problem, unless you manage to never brake hard.

My mileage is still low. Have the RWD sport auto. I think 8500 miles or so? Have not had brake shudder issues yet. Don’t honk down on brakes or over heat the rotors either for my hot rodding days are behind me. Maybe I’ve been fortunate?

 

[Boy blue]

hello, I need new brake pads for my g70! 3.3t sport.... i'm looking at z23 power stop brakes off Rockauto.... numbers are z232144 and z236012... I just want to triple check that these will fit my car before I finalize my order? or if anyone knows of others brake pads with a comparable price that will fit for sure! i'm not about to pay 900$ just for front brake pads from the dealership lol

 

[canucklehead604]

^ rockauto is great, and as long as you match the vehicle trims then you should be good to go. you can cross reference that part number on the manufacturer website to double check, and even reach out to the tech reps at the manufacturer to triple check. generally roackauto has clear trim descriptions which make it obvious. but it's always good practice to double check.

 

[canucklehead604]

Hi All,

I, like canucklehead604 am one of those proud 6MT owners (also, Canadian, as you'll see below). Love the car! It's my daily driver; I haven't ever tracked it, but I do enjoy some spirited driving.

When getting my 60,000km servicing, I was informed by my dealer that the pads are down to 2mm-4mm and due for replacement, then quoted me an absurd $2500CAD for the pad & rotor replacement. I called a different Genesis dealer (Mississauga) just for part costs and was quoted $580CAD for front pads, $450CAD for rear pads, $400CAD for front rotors, $360 for rear rotors. (hating COVID for so many reasons now!)

Needless to say, I'm looking aftermarket at this point (and possibly doing the job myself). I fear that I may be doing something wrong, because the rockauto prices for the pads are roughly 1/8 of what I was quoted (I recognize they're not OEM, but still):
Front Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214501 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $71.51CAD
Rear Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214401 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $56.38CAD
Front Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421038 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $85.73 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121039L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $118.93 x2
Rear Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421039 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $106.24 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121038L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $147.13 + $150.97 (not sure why they're different prices, but whatever)

So would I be doing something totally wrong getting these at a fraction of the price of dealer OEM parts? Also, if I'm swapping out pads and rotors to aftermarket, would I still have to go with the "euro" spec semi-metallic style pads, or could I go to a ceramic pad and still avoid the dreaded shudder?

^ just to follow up to my earlier reply, this is the pad i would lean towards on rockauto's site:



from my read this closely matches our Euro pads. heck, DF may be an OE supplier for all i know. these pads are in the "Daily Driver" category for our 6MT trim (=Euro factory pads). the other DF 3000 pads are in the "Economy" category, and may not give you equivalent braking performance.

 

[canucklehead604]

How do we know which pads came from the factory? My G70 sport has whatever it came with and I always assumed it was not the more expensive euro pads but could be wrong. I’ve been fine with the factory pads so at replacement time would probably just put back what is there now.

^ for north america, only the RWD Dynamic and 6MT trims got the Euro sport pads (semi-metallic). all other trims got the ceramics. the RWD Dynamic was only offered in the US, so Canada only got one trim with the Euro pads.

 

[ryan_g]

Hi All,

I, like canucklehead604 am one of those proud 6MT owners (also, Canadian, as you'll see below). Love the car! It's my daily driver; I haven't ever tracked it, but I do enjoy some spirited driving.

When getting my 60,000km servicing, I was informed by my dealer that the pads are down to 2mm-4mm and due for replacement, then quoted me an absurd $2500CAD for the pad & rotor replacement. I called a different Genesis dealer (Mississauga) just for part costs and was quoted $580CAD for front pads, $450CAD for rear pads, $400CAD for front rotors, $360 for rear rotors. (hating COVID for so many reasons now!)

Needless to say, I'm looking aftermarket at this point (and possibly doing the job myself). I fear that I may be doing something wrong, because the rockauto prices for the pads are roughly 1/8 of what I was quoted (I recognize they're not OEM, but still):
Front Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214501 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $71.51CAD
Rear Pads: DYNAMIC FRICTION 1311214401 3000 Semi-Metallic; Includes Hardware Kit, Manual Trans - $56.38CAD
Front Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421038 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $85.73 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121039L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $118.93 x2
Rear Rotors: DYNAMIC FRICTION 60421039 GEOSPEC Coated Rotor, Manual Trans - $106.24 x 2
or DYNAMIC FRICTION 63121038L/R Drilled and Slotted; Silver, Manual Trans - $147.13 + $150.97 (not sure why they're different prices, but whatever)

So would I be doing something totally wrong getting these at a fraction of the price of dealer OEM parts? Also, if I'm swapping out pads and rotors to aftermarket, would I still have to go with the "euro" spec semi-metallic style pads, or could I go to a ceramic pad and still avoid the dreaded shudder?

Really interested to hear about how this goes for you – I officially need new front pads and really don't want to pay $400 for the parts alone for the Euro pads. I'm in a similar boat as you where the car is my daily & I also definitely enjoy (probably more than) my fair share of spirited driving!